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#1 Jan 21 2012 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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So I just recently activated the trial to FFXI. I played the game when it launched in the U.S. and had left around spring of 2004. I enjoyed my time there even though it was such a test of patience to ever get anything done because of time. Eight years later, I don't have that kind of time to invest but something sparked my interest in the game again.

I haven't committed to playing it fully yet as I'm only doing the 14 day trial. I wanted to get others input from what FFXIV is like now. I had heard and read that it was awful when it released but that it's been greatly improved.

So here are the things that I'm being hung up on when deciding which game to play:

FFXI
- The game is dying out.
- I was level 75 DRG, but never got to see much of the game. I've read that at 99 you can do some major exploring solo and that sounds appealing to me.
- Since the leveling process has improved, I'd finally get to try out classes that I always wanted to.

FFXIV
- A lot of things look appealing to me and I'm curious to try it.
- The proposed changes in 2.0 make the above point stand out even more.
- I can hit this up on PS3 eventually...

This is a really awkward way of asking, but what choice would you make if you were in my place?
#2 Jan 21 2012 at 11:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you're looking to play FFXI -- and it seems like you are -- then go do that. :)

FFXI is hardly "dying". Its leveled off in terms of population, but SE is still adding to it and expanding it. If you enjoyed the game before, you'd probably enjoy it now. Perhaps even more so as pretty much any job can solo decently now.

FFXIV, on the other hand, isn't doing terribly well. There's little to do and not a whole of of people to do it with. Hopefully as SE adds to it and fixes the various issues, people will give it another go.

If I had to recommend one over the other, I'd go with FFXI.
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#3 Jan 22 2012 at 12:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is a really awkward way of asking, but what choice would you make if you were in my place?


Posting as someone who's played both FFXI and FFXIV throughout 2011 off and on, but doesn't currently play either, so take this for what it's worth.

FFXI is currently at a stage where it provides some good fun for smaller groups. Abyssea is very enjoyable for a lot of people and is very friendly to low man parties (it was when I played, would likely be even moreso with the cap at 99), Dynamis changes have made it friendly to low man or even solo groups, and Voidwatch provides challenges for larger groups but some are turned off by its odd loot system and low effort/reward ratio. If you enjoy larger scale battles though, you may want to give it a shot. Other older events are being reworked too, with Nyzul Isle (from the ToaU expansion) being next up. Experience parties are tremendously easy compared to how they used to be, so you would have absolutely no trouble at all leveling up (still feels weird talking about FFXI like this...).

In FFXIV, things have been cleaned up a lot from early release. The UI is more responsive and actions feel less clunky than they used to. Populations are currently very small but rumored server merges are coming so it may remedy that problem for a bit while the game tries to get back on track. The game still isn't quite where it should be IMO in terms of content, but once 2.0 hits we will see whether it can make this game truly fun and appealing to play.

Considering that you haven't played since 2004, I'm going to suggest FFXI. You've missed two major expansions (or three, if you weren't able to crack CoP back in 04) and quite a bit of content, so you'll come back to quite a bit compared to someone who quit just recently. Even if you only played for a few months, you could get a lot out of it in terms of storyline missions, new (to you) zones, and events and most are extremely easy to access now. If after you've done all that you'd probably have a good idea of whether it's something you want to keep playing or not, and if not you'd at least get to experience years of content before you left. And on the plus side, if 2.0 really is worth all the hype, you can jump on that and enjoy when things are looking brighter.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 1:06am by Susanoh
#4 Jan 22 2012 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Since the leveling process has improved, I'd finally get to try out classes that I always wanted to.


That depends on your definition of "improved leveling process." If you liked the experience party leveling, then I'd say its just different lol. Anyways...

I loved FFXI and played it for awhile. Came back over the summer and it didn't do much for me. That's my personal opinion. I was not a huge fan of what it had become. But really, I did a lot back in the day on that game whereas you said you did not so much of everything will seem new to you. To each, their own.

FFXIV I started playing a month ago. I enjoy it, it entertains me. I can't relate to when it was terrible but now it is a 'playable game'. Much more improvements are needed still but I'm liking the game.

If I were in your position I'd probably start by trying out FFXI again. As much as I did not like its current state, many people do and that may be you lol. If your get bored after awhile FFXIV will have much more content in the next few months. Oh, and its only like $12 for a digital download and a free 30-day trial.
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#5 Jan 22 2012 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the reply all.

Here is a question for you FFXIV players, as minor as it may be: If you've played WoW & it's clones, does the action bar in FFXIV function just like it does in those MMO's? Are actions / spells / etc. able to be used like they are in WoW? I have to say that is one draw in a more gameplay technicality that I really appreciated over FFXI.

The answers aren't going to sway me either way, but I have been curious about that from a few video's I've seen on youtube.
#6 Jan 22 2012 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, they are basically the same thing. You click "1" on your keyboard and you do whatever ability is linked to that slot. No more dealing with macros or typing out commands.
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#7 Jan 23 2012 at 4:06 AM Rating: Default
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go with XI. FFXIV will die long before FFXI, so that's bad reasoning to put "dying" in the FFXI column.

if anything I would be worried more about investing time into an FFXIV character at this point. the game is a train wreck, I do hope they manage to make something of it though.

I also have not played FFXI since level 75 cap but they have added so much content, the game looks really different now. and they're still adding content. so I would go with that, I'm gonna maybe get back into XI soon. XIV is just kind of pathetic.
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#8 Jan 23 2012 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Try both, see what you like more.

I know people who still play XI and like it - I know people who have 'gone back' to XI and found it not enjoyable or enjoyable.

I know people who still play XIV and enjoy it - I know people who have just started playing and have a blast - and those who do not.

Every person is different. You should be able to tell fairly easily which you want to do more within the trial periods.
#9 Jan 23 2012 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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I'd go with XI unless you're interested in the pre-2.0 rewards (so far, a Goobbue mount).

Starting FFXIV at this point is going to be unnecessarly troublesome due to the lack of low level players more than anything else, IMO. Regardless of you actually liking the game or not, you will have to deal the fact you will have to pretty much solo guildleves to level up, buy low level gear from NPCs, or stay in town shouting for hours trying to get a party into Shopshae or Toto-Rak.

Granted, FFXI probably is the same thing for lower levels, but truth be told, it's far more complete and has much more content (and players) than XIV at this point, so the trouble is more worth it. When 2.0 kicks in, go ahead and take a look, as (at least we hope) there will be a lot of low level people to play with. Not to mention doing so will spare you the trouble of doing stuff like creating a whole new character to explore the new world, like some people plan to.
#10 Jan 23 2012 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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One positive reason for starting FFXIV right now is the rapidly approaching patch 1.21. If you start now you will have some time to level up classes for when the Job System (Advanced Jobs) is put into place. There's a lot coming in the patch as well including 2 new high-end dungeons. Most partying occurs 35+ but there are some lower level parties but a much lower rate. But this seems more the case of the higher populated servers. You will be doing a lot of leve quest grinding under 30. If you do decide to play FFXIV join one of the higher populated servers and join and active LS because it is will be essential to your progression.

To be honest, there are a lot of extreme views presented on this forum (see the sub-default rated post in this thread). A more conservative view to the game is:

1) It shows high potential
2) It is playable and enjoyable to many
3) It is a work-in-progress at the moment, so keep that in mind for your decision whether you want to pay for it
4) Progressive implementation of large scale content patches
5) With all this being said, it still is far from a "great game", a lot is still missing, and much more work is still needed

Personally, I enjoy FFXIV. There aren't too many options for high-end content but for a newer player like me, I have enough to keep my occupied. Hope this helps a little.
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