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#1 Feb 09 2012 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
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Figaro was known as the unofficial JP server from beta to launch. It sucks. All the linkshells on it run on PST because they feel some emotional connection to the Japanese, even though they don't speak it.

I really, really, really want to be on a 70% + English server, and I am ultra upset at SE for not designating appropriate language servers right now.

Anyway, if anyone knows about large quantities of English speakers on EST/CST time zones moving to a special server, I'd love to know which server you're going to.

Probably won't play seriously until 2.0 again, but I want to get on a good population/english server instead of one that is HEAVILY JP populated.

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#2 Feb 09 2012 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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From what I've seen, there are statistically about an equal number of active Japanese and English players on every server, even on the "unofficial" Japanese server.

Even if you try to designate one server for your nefarious "get these Japanese off my server" purposes, these things have a tendency not to work out. Besides, the merger alone should increase the number of players who are in your timezone on your server. I believe you're better off shifting your attitude towards tolerance and understanding (and appreciating the benefits of a 24/7 in-game economy) than trying to put up barriers towards those you don't like, and maybe you'll enjoy life more when the burdens of hate are off your shoulders.

Just a suggestion ^_^
#3 Feb 09 2012 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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I think the OP's point was that there's no NA pop on his server that plays when he does... He did mention the time zone thing twice in the post and specifically asked where EST/CST players might be going... EST and PST are three hours different which doesn't seem like a lot until you realize that the PST crew usually gets on right about bed time for the EST peeps on any days except Fridays and Saturdays...
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#4 Feb 09 2012 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
I think the OP's point was that there's no NA pop on his server that plays when he does...


And he could have left it at that and it would have been fine. But you'll notice he spends a great deal of time bashing the Japanese and hating on the English speakers on his server as being enthralled to the Japanese.

It seems less about timezones and more about pushing people he doesn't like out.

I sense a lot of hate between the lines. If I'm mistaken, I'm sorry, but that's just how it comes across.
#5 Feb 09 2012 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm the guy does have a right to not want to party with JP players...just like many JP players really don't like to party with English party players...he is aloud to think that way if he wants...regardless of his TZ.

Umm I thought Besaid and Selbina had a lot of English players...I thought, after server merge, who knows.
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#6 Feb 09 2012 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no issues with JP population. I just think its impractical to try to actually communicate with auto-translate.

Which means I'd really appreciate a community that is on and active that I can understand with appropriate time management. PST vs CST is terrible, and almost all the linkshells (minus one that I can think of) on Figaro were based on PST because of the whole "IM COMPLETELY ENTHRALLED WITH JP CULTURE" which.. is something I totally don't understand.

Anyway, I'd just like a primarily an english server to not have to whisper someone and get "I don't speak english" back. This isn't a "tolerance" issue, as much as you'd like to make it one, its not.

Furthermore, if you'd like to make this a "tolerance" issue, you might as well start whining at the EU German/French players for getting their own designated 'recommended' server. If you say its not, then my "want for a primary english" server is completely valid.

24/7 "economy" is also a far stretch.

Edited, Feb 9th 2012 8:31pm by TibianGL
#7 Feb 10 2012 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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TibianGL wrote:
I have no issues with JP population. I just think its impractical to try to actually communicate with auto-translate.

Which means I'd really appreciate a community that is on and active that I can understand with appropriate time management. PST vs CST is terrible, and almost all the linkshells (minus one that I can think of) on Figaro were based on PST because of the whole "IM COMPLETELY ENTHRALLED WITH JP CULTURE" which.. is something I totally don't understand.

Anyway, I'd just like a primarily an english server to not have to whisper someone and get "I don't speak english" back. This isn't a "tolerance" issue, as much as you'd like to make it one, its not.

Furthermore, if you'd like to make this a "tolerance" issue, you might as well start whining at the EU German/French players for getting their own designated 'recommended' server. If you say its not, then my "want for a primary english" server is completely valid.

24/7 "economy" is also a far stretch.

Edited, Feb 9th 2012 8:31pm by TibianGL



I don't think you understand the scope of your request.

You seem to want a server of people who think and feel the way you do, and will play when you play. While that may be possible for you, it is not possible on a global scale.

As for people that are "enthralled" with JP culture, I personally would be one of the people you are refering to. I found their culture and art fascinating before I found out that I am 1/4 Chinese. As a Westerner, most of the culture and information we learn in school is Westerner/European culture. To learn and understand another culture I did not get exposure to when I was growing up is a big deal for me. I want to have a better understanding of the world (and more so now of eastern culture as it does pertain to my heritage).

As for the Eu German/French players, I think you missed the point of that. The suggestion is related to people who speak little or no English/Japanese, who have problems finding people who speak their language and can communicate to. Since I can not read/write Japanese, and my understanding of French is worse than pathetic, and I refuse to learn german, I can understand that. If I couldn't find a linkshell of people I can talk to, I wouldn't want to play the game. It's not about finding parties, because that has little/nothing to do with the language barrier (and that is where the auto-translate feature comes it). I have yet to run into a situation where I have been in a party with mostly Japanese, or mostly English speakers, where the party did not run smoothly. In those situations, the party because controlled by the majority language, and auto-translate, or a person who speaks both translates between, and the party works.
However, I have never, and will most likely never be in a Japanese linkshell. There is no reason to, and I will gain nothing from it, as they will gain nothing from me being there.

So, now to address your issue of a predominately English Server.

You first need to realize that there are nearly as many Japanese speakers as English Speakers. There are effectively 9 servers. Japan has 1 time zone, however, there are 3 austrailian, 1 English, and 6 American Time Zones.

With that being said, how would someone specify an English Server. You have people in every time zone who can speak varying languages (mind you with the current population they are definitely a minority), and you have large groups of people of the two predominate languages. If SE had recommended a server (or even 2) for one language or another, and assuming people wouldn't start screaming "Separatists" (and believe me, they would), you would still end up overloading those two areas, and create the most inefficient, and disgruntled environment. You would have servers that would be inactive for 4-6 hours a day. Could you imagine, you decide that you want to play late one week-night because you have the day off, and you can barely find 100 people online. Or you are home sick, and there is no one on. Basically the net result would be lower populations during the off-times than there are on now during the peak times. This would be significantly worse for the Japanese servers as they would represent a single timezone.

Even with the fact that different people work and play at different times, there is a significant majority (the reason it's called JP PrimeTime, or EU PrimeTime, or US PrimeTime) who play in a specific window. it's the reason gas stations and stores close at night.

I am sorry that this inconveniences you, but considering the over-all population that each server will have, I think you can safely avoid anyone who is not Japanese. And, you can always move around, there will be a server or two that will have more people of one nationality than another.
#8 Jan 05 2013 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I ended up on Ragnarok and would like another server when 2.0 is released. I can understand the OP's frustration not only because of the EU server but from past experience.

I played FFXI from 2005 until 2011 and ended up quitting majorly because most of my friends had quit and they only ones left were in PST linkshells.
Being EST it sucked trying to accomplish anything of significance when most linkshells were PST starting events when I was ready to go to bed. My wife and I played FFXIV mostly together duo'ing stuff because she is new to MMO and well we unfortunately joined a EU server.

Any suggestions on servers we could transfer to and or just start new if we cannot pick upon launch?
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#9 Jan 05 2013 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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Edit: killed rant due to realizing this is a necro thread.

Edited, Jan 5th 2013 5:47pm by ShindaUsagi
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