Actually no, it didn't. My first post was a response to the OP where I suggested not buying any components at all. Your first comment to me was in response to this...
I was talking about the particular discussion that sparked the i5/i7 comparison between me and another user, which your first post in this thread wasn't a part of. And your right, my first comment to you was in response to this.
The suggestions to slack in the CPU department for a greater GPU aren't good suggestions.
This, I thought, was in response to my post which was specifically aimed at the build using an i7 2600k and a 550 TI, so in the next post I explained exactly why I thought upgrading to a $100 better processor even if it meant taking money from the CPU would be a good move. You responded with a post about overclocking and whether a CPU would hold the GPU back. I responded with this.
I thought you were referring to my post because I believe I was the only one who mentioned anything about taking money from the CPU and putting it into the GPU, so I explained why I felt going from i7 to i5 and putting an extra $100 into the graphics was a good move. My link was to show that i5 paired with a higher quality GPU will show very good results, while if we instead switched the CPU to an i7 the results would seem comparatively smaller. It wasn't about the difference between an overclocked CPU compared to a stock one.
It seems we might be talking about different things here. My post was about a specific build. If you were just speaking in general and not referencing my post about the specific build I was referring to, I don't really have anything to argue.
In your next post you talked about CPU intensive games and showed a Starcraft 2 benchmark, and at the end of your post you made this comment.
Nothing wrong with the build, but the suggestion to downgrade the CPU and the reasoning behind it was why I responded. About the only way the CPU wouldn't hold the GPU back is at incredibly high resolutions that tax the GPU to it's limits. Most people run at standard resolutions.
In the first line of my next response, I said this.
My reasoning is that there is an incredibly small difference between the i5 and i7, while there is a rather large difference between the 550 ti and options that cost roughly $100 more.
Which brings me to this comment:
I didn't even comment on a specific model GPU until just recently and that was to point out that had I suggested a GPU, neither the 550 or the 560 would have been one of them. Any other comment I made about GPUs was about general bottlenecking because of CPU clocks.
You're right, you didn't comment on a specific model of GPU. I did, and you seemed to argue the points I made which I repeatedly mentioned were specific to the build I was replying to. If you are not advocating keeping a 550 TI in place of a more expensive GPU option in order to keep an i7 2600k, then you are either talking about something else and not taking issue with what my comment was about (which I even said was a good possibility in one of the posts I quoted above) or you are completely taking what I said out of context.
As for the part about CPU clocks, I wasn't even the one to bring that up. I said that an i5 wouldn't hold back a 550 TI or 560 TI, and when I said that I still had an i7 in mind as the comparison, and I was referring to the actual performance difference between them, not to say they would perform 100% identically to each other. I have honestly never seen anyone refer to an i5 as "holding back" modern GPUs, but regardless, practical performance is all I was talking about.
Don't downgrade important components in a build. If you can't fit what you need into your budget, wait until you can. You act like I'm anti-value but maybe you forget that my first post here was a suggestion to wait until 2.0 comes out so we can nail down exactly how these components will perform under the new graphics engine. Not only that, but anything(550, 560 or otherwise) being considered now will be outdated by then. It's still almost a year away...
Now this, I somewhat agree with. I really don't have anything against people spending more in order to buy better parts. But with that said, discussing better ways to handle a budget (which is what I was attempting to do) is definitely valid. One is "you could spend more money to upgrade this and keep everything else the same" while the other is saying "for the same price as that,
you could have this.
For anyone conscious of their budget, I think that is a perfectly valid discussion to have. You don't need to have the best of the best to game. And unless you do have an unlimited budget and are buying all high end, which parts will show most the largest performance increases for their given price is a discussion I find to be entirely relevant. Edited, Apr 16th 2012 7:33am by Susanoh