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#1 Apr 10 2012 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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Is it worth trying to play and reevaluate now or should I wait for 2.0? I have a few months of crysta in SE's coffers since the game went back to refactoring mode. I'd probably restart from the beginning to relearn everything. Does the community feel that enough has changed for the good that it's good to play now and play through the changes or wait a few more version releases?

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#2 Apr 10 2012 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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If you are starting from scratch, there is ALOT to do now. Enough to keep you busy for a few months, and you will have company, as there have been more and more people coming back.

The big thing though is, if you had issues with the game play, or the lack of content, you may be pleasantly suprised. However, if you had an issue with the UI, Market Wards, general item availability, lack of party mechanics (especially at low levels), linkshell management, crafting mechanics (different from actual crafts), gathering, or lag, then you will find the game is much the same as it was at release.

They have redesigned the characters, battle mechanics, mobs, mob placement, leve system, abilities, and added several quests and dungeons and all levels from ~1 to 50. With there being more to do the higher you get. You definitely can't level off of questing alone, but, after getting a few levels, you can always take a break from the grind and complete some quests.

Most of the open world quests are simple kill quests (not all). Very few have cutscenes (the current favorites of the new ones are definitely the inn quests, then maybe the Black Mage and Warrior quests).

There is something to do in every town, and while people still gather in Ul'dah, there is no longer a need. You can either put up your flag for a party, or search for a party and join (they added the basic functionality from both features in 11, however, the LFP feature is definitely not complete, but the Find a Party feature actually works, unlike it did in 11).

The Market Ward is now a complete nightmare, since the server merge, everyone is still putting their retainers in Ul'dah, and to be honest, I haven't sold a single item since the merge (via retainer). But, it is definitely easy to find stuff and buy it:P.

Anyways, if you have money to burn, and time to burn it in, there are worse investments:). Add to that there are things you can do now that you will not be able to do after the release (get a Goobue... which is or is not a good thing:), or take part in the Live events, they are just quests that appear with each update that lead into the end of the 6th umbral age, which give items, and exp, and right now are just defense fights, and require level 45+).
#3 Apr 10 2012 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the info!

One question in regard to the guildleves. You mentioned that leve system (I'm assuming leve system and guldleve are the same) have been redesigned. I checked Zam's wiki on them but it seems to be the same from what I remember. Is there more variation to the leves? I remember I had to do the same ones over and over with maybe one leve actually being swapped for a new one.

Also, are those small towns outside the main cities now being used? I always felt bad seeing those towns and watching those npcs standing there with nothing to do.
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#4 Apr 10 2012 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry, leves are the same, the leve system was redesigned.

You now get 4 leves every 12 hours, they are shared between local (crafting) and regional (gathering and combat/faction).
You can flag 8 leves at a time.
Each time you complete a leve, your selectable leves are reset (allowing for faster leve completion, and you can stay in the same area).

So you no longer need to flag 4 leves in one town, complete them, go to another town and complete 4 more leves. You can just bounce back to town, flag 4+ more, and continue.

The leve selection dialog has also been increased from 4 to 8 leves, though it is still a random selection, and not all leves are displayed (so you may have only 2-3 leves, or 5-6 leves available at any time).

Its a more efficient system, but, its still the same leves.

And yes, it's guildleves (though they may or may not have anything to do with guilds, since they got rid of guild points).

On a side note there are also company leves. These you just go to the person where you want to start the company leve, talk to them, and they will give you a leve, and you just instantly start it. You can stay at that location and keep repeating them until you are tired of it, or run out of leves. Very handy for company seals, and quick exp.
#5Kinsatu09, Posted: Apr 10 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If anyone has a buddy pass, please let me know. I want to check it out before I buy it for PS3 and suggest it to a friend of mine.
#6 Apr 10 2012 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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If anyone has a buddy pass, please let me know. I want to check it out before I buy it for PS3 and suggest it to a friend of mine.


Sign up for the PS3 beta. If you're buying it for PS3 it's gonna be quite a bit different when that rolls out a year from now.
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#7 Apr 10 2012 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
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Saying the lag and UI are as bad as they were at launch is slightly erroneous.

There are a lot of functional problems with the UI style, many of the features are designed poorly, and are not very friendly to those who wish to use a mouse and keyboard. However, if your biggest issue with the UI was simply how slow it was, that has changed dramatically. The UI went from being almost impossible to use at launch, to simply being a nuisance on occasion, due to the way it's organized, or weird limitations like the 4 items per trade crap.

The lag is also much better, at least now it's consistent, even if it is still enough of a delay to make really tense fights obnoxious.

Edited, Apr 10th 2012 4:51pm by RamseySylph
#8 Apr 10 2012 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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I quit in January and just restarted, I think you should give it a shot again if you have the crysta to burn. Leves are still very much so repetitive, but I think party play comes into affect around level 20ish? Someone stop me if I'm wrong on that. I am personally having fun.
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#9 Apr 10 2012 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
I quit in January and just restarted, I think you should give it a shot again if you have the crysta to burn. Leves are still very much so repetitive, but I think party play comes into affect around level 20ish? Someone stop me if I'm wrong on that. I am personally having fun.


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Edited, Apr 10th 2012 8:56pm by Elionara
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#10 Apr 10 2012 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I wanted to try out the PC Version, I may get into it. But the PS3 version is supposedly already out also. Or atleast Gamestop had it posted for $60.
#11 Apr 10 2012 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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But the PS3 version is supposedly already out also. Or at least Gamestop had it posted for $60.

It is not, and will not be any time soon.
#12 Apr 11 2012 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to say it was the same, I was trying to say that people who have had issues in those areas typically have posted that the improvements in those areas were not yet at an acceptable level. And SE has repeatedly said that most of those issues will require the new Client version. Personally I am very happy with almost all the changes (with the exception of the issues with Plds being accepted as tanks...)
#13 Apr 11 2012 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
I quit in January and just restarted, I think you should give it a shot again if you have the crysta to burn. Leves are still very much so repetitive, but I think party play comes into affect around level 20ish? Someone stop me if I'm wrong on that. I am personally having fun.


You won't see parties reliably forming under 35ish, though there are some. You should be able to burn through leves and quests to get to 30 with minimal boredom, there's a few major spikes in leve XP around 28 when you can 5 star solo level 20 leves up until about 34-35 when that XP is no longer as good as level 30 camps 2 and 3 starred. It's roughly the same at 18, 36, and mid 40's (but mid-40s you will find people to party with who are doing soulbinding runs and such and the XP just flys in so darn fast). It's slightly slower as a mage due to MP BUT you can also tackle 5 stars sooner than a melee class, just don't run out of MP on those leves where the last mob spawns 3 more :p
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