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#1 Apr 29 2012 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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hello

i am completely new to MMORPGs and ive been watching vids of people beating monsters in a party like ifrit and garuda and such and all of the weapon rewards that follow, what i want to say is that i dont understand the reward system... like when a party of people beat ie ifrit dose everyone in the party get the same things because it dosnt look like it, or how dose it work...feel free to abuse me for a possible retatd question.. :) thanx

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#2 Apr 29 2012 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
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...lol never played an mmo
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#3 Apr 29 2012 at 3:10 AM Rating: Good
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Welcome to a totally f*cked up world of nerds, catboys and no-lifers.
That said, in principle, yes. Generally eveyone gets an equal chance at the "loot" (that is, what a monter may drop),
but there are also point systems: for every fight, you get something like "points", which you can later exchange for
good items.

In FFXIV, they have a special system, though: you can win the same fight against a boss 1000 times in a row, and
still get nothing out of it. Well, apart from a heap of "frustration points" - but those, you can only exchange for a free
ticket to "ragequit". And nobody knows what lies beyond the ragequit.
#4 Apr 29 2012 at 3:13 AM Rating: Default
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(Some sholars like me, though, assume that it is a world full of bliss, sunshine, beach parties, girls and adventure.
Some even claim the world beyond the ragequit is the "real life". But that, of course, is nothing but pure superstition.)
#5 Apr 29 2012 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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i recently spent about 200 hours on ffxii so i know a little about doing the same thing for 6 hours just to get a ribbon or something..or getting the tournesol..so yeah im commited i know about dizmal percentages and such. In the vids it just looked like the player whom made the vid only opened the chests
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#6 Apr 29 2012 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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rinsui is it a game worth playing hours and hours on?
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#7 Apr 29 2012 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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to a person that has never played an mmo so i wouldnt know good from bad
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#8 Apr 29 2012 at 4:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you spent that much time on FFXII I think you'll fit right in an an MMO but those 200 hours on XII are equivalent to 1000 on FFXIV. Enjoy your stay :)
#9 Apr 29 2012 at 5:02 AM Rating: Decent
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The gratification in a MMO comes from there being a persistent community / society and the sharing / working towards goals as a group while being involved in a rich world.

You can get Gil in both FF12 and FF14, but in FF14 you can meet your buddy in game, hand him 1,000,000 and tell him that he won that chicken wing bet fair and square but next time you'll get him.
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#10 Apr 29 2012 at 5:08 AM Rating: Decent
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so i know a little about doing the same thing for 6 hours just to get a ribbon or something


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Oh come on. Why do I have to be the one to tell him about the droprates for primal weapons?
#11 Apr 29 2012 at 5:15 AM Rating: Decent
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so i know a little about doing the same thing for 6 hours just to get a ribbon or something


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Oh come on. Why do I have to be the one to tell him about the droprates for primal weapons?

huh??
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#12 Apr 29 2012 at 5:16 AM Rating: Default
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If you spent that much time on FFXII I think you'll fit right in an an MMO but those 200 hours on XII are equivalent to 1000 on FFXIV. Enjoy your stay :)

what u mean kyara how is it worth 1000hrs is **** quicker in ffxiv?
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#13 Apr 29 2012 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Typically the opposite, but people don't play MMO's to "beat" them they play them because they enjoy their time spent in the MMO world making time spent there fairly moot.

Although ~7+ years ago I couldn't say that with a straight face as there were many time sinks that were Luda-Chris
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#14 Apr 29 2012 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah i just want to see well i can adapt to a new game style. also i have a hard on for final fantasy since i played ffx for the first time

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#15 Apr 29 2012 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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that is probably why most of us checked 14 out (previous FF games I mean) :)

I liked most and figured I'd like 11 & 14, I enjoyed my time spent in just about all of them other than 13
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#16 Apr 29 2012 at 7:40 AM Rating: Default
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yeah 13 was puss, 12 was the best imo, but yeah i should like it, umm is there a guide i can get, satting what things i should obtain during certain parts of the game like the "piggyback guids" for XII? or not, coz i ******* hate missing out on stuff like the firs time i played 12 i opened some of the zodiac urns and couldnt get it stuff like that
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#17 Apr 29 2012 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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There are a bunch of them, quite a few on this site

Start here
http://ffxiv.zam.com/wiki/FFXIV_New_Player_Guide

Then click on the wiki section on top and follow through the different subjects you care about such as classes / crafting and so on.
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#18 Apr 29 2012 at 7:50 AM Rating: Default
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thanx, whats the first thing people generally tend to do at the start of an mmo? start smashing monsters? run around getting the best amour/weapons/items possible for the given level....i feel like there is so much i need to know before getting stuck into the game...im depressed yet super excited
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#19 Apr 29 2012 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Different strokes for different folks, I like to enjoy the scenery a lot of it is reminiscent of zones from FFXI to some degree.

Getting stuck on getting "the best" anything is likely to lead to burn out, focus on enjoying your time spent and trying out different things until you find something that clicks with you.

For example, I don't like magic classes and of the melee classes my favorite is pugilist but you may prefer Lancer or Archer or (Gasp!) a caster class, just fiddle around ... its a MMO there's no "beating" it as it constantly evolves and presents new challenges.

One thing that I'd suggest doing after leveling up one job a bit (not to max or anything) is exploring a bit and making it a point to grab as many of the Aehteryte crystals as you can, possibly take a airship

Edited, Apr 29th 2012 9:58am by Levish
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#20 Apr 29 2012 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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OP,

First of all, from one gamer to another, welcome to MMO's. Secondly, I would like to forwarn you about playing MMO's too much. They are intentionally made so you can get addicted, especially if you have an addicting personality. I speak from experience.

Okay with that out of the way, as some have stated in regards to your question about what you tend to do...well that depends. For me. I am the type of person who likes to socialize with others (my LS mates) just chatting away. I also enjoy leveling a combo of partying and solo and what I am really in the MMO for is to see a storyline, that's the only reason I care to play video games. Sure I enjoy reading and other RL hobbies, but I think stories to me in videogames are just a totally different genre than reading fantasy books.

Some people are only here to "win" i.e. Fighting epic battles and getting the best gear, which is fine. It really depends on you. FFXI was my MMO cherry...err kinda sorta...I guess I should say modern MMO cherry popper. My first was playing Descent when I was like 12 with my Uncle.

Playing an offline game and an MMO are two different worlds in my opinion, as you will evenutally discover.

My only piece of advice is, don't take it too seriously, some people can get so engulfed in MMO's that they can't see straight. It's a game to enjoy.

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#21 Apr 29 2012 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah sounds good man, im still stuck in the ffxii mode where there was certain points in the game where you had to be a certain level and i want to be atleast double and such, where as it seems in an mmo there is not as many constraints to conform to, the more u talk the more i wanna play. and grab aehterytes.. are they like save crystals enabling you to teleport around and access missions? (i know i could read up on all of this but then whats the point in having a forum..i much rather talking to some one rather than reading and if i didnt know squat id enjoy helping people lol)
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#22 Apr 29 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Aetherytes let you teleport around and initiate "leve quests", and teleport to other mini aetherytes

Leve Quests are one way to get Experience points (you get them in the starter cities in the Inns), Gil (currency) and items, its convenient to get them as you are out exploring especially if you like to cycle through the areas and do quests for different cities.
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#23 Apr 29 2012 at 8:21 AM Rating: Default
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that i do, i spent about 20 hrs on the story line in ffxii and the other 180ish cruisin around getting good **** and going places i wasnt ment to be yet and doing things for hours and hours till my girlfriend started to worry about me... i think im gunna fit into the mmo world, also will only people of roughly the same levels party together or would a *** n900b like me team up with some cool cats
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Sup Jarrad,
It might be a good thing you are getting your cherry popped(first mmo, as Lillitha commented on her experience :O) on XIV. That let's you focus on the world and gameplay without always wondering why certain systems are so convoluted or tedious compared to other mainstream mmos. It's good that you don't wanna focus too much on the story. Mmos overtime trump offline FF in size overtime. But if you strictly only played offline ff. You may find the story more slow paced and spaced apart. I like the artstyle minus the overused landscapes. What you see now will be revamped in version 2.0.

It is good you love XII. Because XI and this are built similar to that game on some fronts. Bear in mind that many quests in mmos are fed-ex or fetchs quests. If you enjoy killing stuff and seeking drops. These two mmos are right up your alley. Did you enjoy the mark hunts in XII?

Treat mmo games as something that can potentially keep you vested over long durations. I typically only see/play 2-4 offline games per year that really make me sport wood. So I find alot of my time inbetween games feeling bored. This is where mmos fill that gap for me personally. What is better than playing a decent to great game? Playing the game with others and meeting new people. I'm in between a relationship atm. But man did I love playing with my ex girlfriend. Exploring, teaming up, learning system intricacies, meeting nice people, multitasking with movies and crap, etc. Get your girlfriend hooked on it if you like the game. If you succeed that means more gametime, less girlfriend aggro lol.

Best advice I can give you starting out.
1.Get used to browsing websites/wikis like this to learn what the **** to do.(You can ask Linkshells, but if you overdo it, sometimes people get irritated.
2.Be friendly or helpful to others if you expect the same. Surround yourself with people with the same likes or goals.

Edited, Apr 29th 2012 11:46am by sandpark
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If you enjoyed XII, it was more or less based off XI with some additional ideas they'd had as far as gameplay. There are some similarities in almost any MMO. XIV is decent/good, I don't know if I would call it MMO noob friendly, though they have been adding in a lot more tooltips and such.

As to these forums, theres quite a few people who haven't played this game since release, then there's a lot more who haven't played since the game went pay to play... and all of them live around various forums spouting stuff they read in patch notes or whatever the *****/gripe threads are on the lodestone. There's also a handful of people who will tell you the game is amazing (and of that handful I'd wager a few of them haven't played either).

The game will be to you what it is to you. IMO there are better MMOs out there... oddly I just happen to enjoy this one the most currently.

In this game you'll start out either doing quests, killing mobs to level, or you'll start life as a crafter or gatherer. The first 10 levels of almost everything are pretty easy to get, and you'll have a taste.

For under 10 bones including 30 days playtime, if you're this interested you might as well just jump in. Look up some vids on youtube as long as they've been uploaded since mid 2011 they should be semi-current (though the crafting and battle hotbars did just change). Either way, good luck in your journeys off or on-line.
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I have just recently started playing FFXIV, I actually picked it up last week because of the welcome back campaign.

If you can say one great thing about this MMO, is that it is not a WoW clone. Look at Aion, Tera (questing system), Rift, SWTOR, all of them are trying to use the World of Warcraft formula and it sucks. If I wanted to play that game I would play that game, I don't.

I started MMO's with FFXI years ago and started playing it at launch. I can say that if you like XI when it launched FXIV is now roughly in the same shape, minus the auction house. I am really enjoying the game so far, and as an XI player the ability to grind mobs by yourself is a bit refreshing. However, I would still appreciate some mandatory group leveling.

Don't worry about endgame, this game will change, goals will change, and the feel will change. This game will continually get better, as long as we support it financially. I can't speak to how endgame proceeds, but I will say just take your time and wait for 2.0 and enjoy what you have.
#27 Apr 29 2012 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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jarradstone wrote:
coz i @#%^ing hate missing out on stuff like the firs time i played 12 i opened some of the zodiac urns and couldnt get it stuff like that

You had me all feeling like I wanted to play FFXII again but then you reminded me about the stupid deal with the spear. I was soooo ticked when I discovered that you had to have made sure to leave certain ones unopened.
Incredibly bad idea IMO, always disliked games that have things like that.

Edited, Apr 29th 2012 1:45pm by MrTalos
#28 Apr 29 2012 at 5:59 PM Rating: Default
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Yeah sandpark I loved the mark hunts probably my favourite parts of the game, that and being lvl 90 in a lvl 20 recommend area lol

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#29 Apr 29 2012 at 6:04 PM Rating: Default
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. Mrtalos get back on it!!! Best game, there is only 4 to avoid and you can get the spear soooo early I think even before you get to the last 2. I dont know if you can remember but I got it even before the story takes me to jahara lol so much fun
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#30 Apr 30 2012 at 1:12 AM Rating: Good
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jarradstone wrote:
kyara10 wrote:
If you spent that much time on FFXII I think you'll fit right in an an MMO but those 200 hours on XII are equivalent to 1000 on FFXIV. Enjoy your stay :)

what u mean kyara how is it worth 1000hrs is sh*t quicker in ffxiv?


No. It means those 200 hours you spent farming ribbons or Zodiac Spear in FFXII are nothing compared to what you'll spend farming some stuff in FFXIV. You will probably enjoy it. My advice: make friends and just enjoy yourself, dont stress yourself out over weapons and gear, let that be a secondary priority and you'll love your time online.

Edited, Apr 30th 2012 7:41am by kyara10
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ahh ok
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#32 Apr 30 2012 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Jarrod,

Again MMO's are a different type of beast. My close friend whom I'm playing ffxiv with is also playing XI with his fiancé. They have been farming I think for almost two years to get her mythic weapon. That is what we mean by hours spent farming are different. Like Ky said, let gear be a secondary thing to obtain and you should enjoy yourself more in MMO's
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#33 Apr 30 2012 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Will do
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#34 Apr 30 2012 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep. Since for MMO's there never is a true "end" to the journey,
they game naturally has to be all about the journey, not it's end.

Unluckily, one of the major flaws of FFXIV upon release was (and,
some claim, still is) that there's little journey to be had up to the
"endgame", which you will never fully finish because of hilarious
roadblocks that suddenly appear out of thin air.

Basically it's a week of powerleveling to the top, skipping all mid-level
content to catch up with your friends, which renders most mid-level
content meaningless anyway, and once there, you are smacked with
a big signboard that reads: "You cannot pass. 0.01% droprate ahead".

...or so they say.
#35 Apr 30 2012 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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****** hummmm.. well i dont have any in game friends, but i think i may con a mate into starting with me, is 2 company? or u need more to rape big things?
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#36 May 01 2012 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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check Ul'Dah near the tele crystal and ask around for new player friendly / social linkshells

Lots can be done either solo or in a small group but some of the really nifty events involve full groups & alliances. There is a certain magic to the amount of coordination that getting all those people working together imparts and seeing the fruits of your labor, on the other hand the failures can be pretty funny also.

I have some pictures from 11 of a certain dragon that my alliance ran across unprepared for that went ahead and chomped us :)

We lol'd and continued on our merry way
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#37 May 01 2012 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
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parties sound good and all but who the flip is going to want to be a healer???

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#38 May 01 2012 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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You'd be surprised, actually. There's not as much of a desperation for healers as they used to be.

A lot of classes, and jobs, have some minor self restorations to help mitigate the healing load, and White Mages (Expect this to be the only primary healer job in the game, honestly.) are not all that infrequent because they do get access to some elemental nukes. (not to mention the healing mechanics aren't that bad, just needs a bit of tweaking.)
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jarradstone wrote:
parties sound good and all but who the flip is going to want to be a healer???

Edited, May 1st 2012 5:42pm by jarradstone


>:( Me. I like healing!
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
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parties sound good and all but who the flip is going to want to be a healer???

Edited, May 1st 2012 5:42pm by jarradstone


>:( Me. I like healing!

Aint it lame don't ya want to stan **** in the face?? do you 100% need a healer in parties, can ya heal as any other class?
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#41 May 02 2012 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Unlike a single player game, an MMO involves interaction with other players so it might help to type in a more refined fashion.
#42 May 02 2012 at 4:30 AM Rating: Decent
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plz dont sook to me, i really do not care for it, nothing wrong with what i sed apart from a few shocking spelling errors
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#43 May 02 2012 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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jarradstone wrote:
plz dont sook to me, i really do not care for it, nothing wrong with what i sed apart from a few shocking spelling errors

Playing healer can be fun. It all depends on how the mechanics are. I dislike playing healer when the majority of heals are ranged/casted single target spells or skills. I enjoyed playing as scholar or dancer when healing in FFXI. Even though white mage was the main healer in that game. Idk why for sure. But I have been enjoying the **** out of playing a priest in Tera. Probably the most fun I have ever had playing as a heal job/class.
#44 May 02 2012 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
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im just concerned coz out of the 3 people im starting the game with none of them want to play healer.. :(
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#45 May 02 2012 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Try and get your girlfriend hooked on game, then hope she likes playing healer? :P
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Jarrod,

I just enjoy healing. Irl I'm a very motherly *and mother* person. I like taking care of my kids, guests, and family. So when I play an MMO the first job I head to is a healer. However, my character on Hyperion, the CON role is off limits until I can convince my husband to play after his studies >:(. So I'm a bit bummed. So I'm stuck playing my MRD, GLAD, LANC, and ARCH >_<; pug, con and thm are off limits to me. :(. Which makes me a sad sad panda :(.

It really depends on you as a person what role you like. And as far as needing a healer, depends on what you are doing. If you plan on tackling raids, then yeah you'll need one or two I think. And someone correct me on this, but I think is you level con to a certain point, in many quests you should be able to handle your own heals, I think, can someone verify his who has played more in depth than me?
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Try and get your girlfriend hooked on game, then hope she likes playing healer? :P

Yeah my gf really wants to play but she also wants to hack things up, I kinda want to get good at all classes so I'll see how I go
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#48 May 02 2012 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Ah I can relate to that XD. I got some female friends who enjoy wiping the floor with my a#s on pvp matches in some games. Everyone likes to give into the chaos and just tear crap up from time to time lol.
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Ah I can relate to that XD. I got some female friends who enjoy wiping the floor with my a#s on pvp matches in some games. Everyone likes to give into the chaos and just tear crap up from time to time lol.


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LillithaFenimore wrote:
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Ah I can relate to that XD. I got some female friends who enjoy wiping the floor with my a#s on pvp matches in some games. Everyone likes to give into the chaos and just tear crap up from time to time lol.


"This is why we can't have nice things!" - Doctor Mog

who id doc mog?? ive watched a few of his YT vids

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A poster on the lodestone forums, here and I think s/he's a mod on another site.
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