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#1 May 23 2012 at 9:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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The ones with the FXAA anti-aliasing?

It could be just me, but with that enabled, the adaptive V-sync, and 4x MSAA in the game options, the game looks sooooo good. Smiley: thumbsup
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#2 May 24 2012 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
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FXAA is mostly for games that don't already have AA or use something else like TERA. You would have to override the game settings to see a difference('Anti aliasing Mode - Override any program settings') to get it to work, but native AA looks better and will stress your GPU more. In the case of TERA, people are forcing AA to get more from their GPUs. FXAA is probably better suited to people who want a little more eye candy without taking a performance hit.

The adaptive Vsync just automatically switches Vsync on or off depending on frame rate. Not sure what you're running with, but I never got above 60 FPS anyway so I just left it off.

Edited, May 24th 2012 2:51am by FilthMcNasty
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According to the description in Nvidia control panel it can be used in conjunction with the applications native AA. I'll have to do some comparisons with the game's AA off to see if the performance is better as they claim in this article:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-301.24-beta-drivers-released/
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#5 May 25 2012 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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If you could do some graphical or performance comparisons with the new drivers, it'd be helpful. I've been looking at picking up a 680 (went with crossfired AMDs last time, which has been a less than stellar experience), and seeing how their new drivers help with one of the games I play might push me over the edge.
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All I know is, I now put my laptop up to a standard texture quality, and 4x multi-sample, and my video card hasn't overheated once, and the game performance is still at a comfortable rate.

When 14 first came out, my laptop would literally over-heat and shutdown ~5 minutes of game play with the settings I have it at now. Will be nice to see if I can keep pushing it up. My current settings are above my wife's desktop system, and quickly approaching my desktop's settings...
#7 May 25 2012 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
According to the description in Nvidia control panel it can be used in conjunction with the applications native AA. I'll have to do some comparisons with the game's AA off to see if the performance is better as they claim in this article:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-301.24-beta-drivers-released/


Right, but people running games with AA at max won't really see the difference. In the comparison of FXAA vs 8x they only show the zoomed up version in the link and you can barely see a difference. If you were playing normally you wouldn't really see anything. What I'm curious about are any changes to performance and not just visual quality.

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I've been looking at picking up a 680 (went with crossfired AMDs last time, which has been a less than stellar experience), and seeing how their new drivers help with one of the games I play might push me over the edge.


If you get a 680 then you could run most games at max settings. FXAA wouldn't help you much, but I'm betting that your issue with the AMD GPUs you had was choppiness? nVidia doesn't have the stutter that AMD has. I run games at max AA on a GTX 480 so you could too, but it's good to see nVidia introducing tech for people who aren't enthusiasts.
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#8 May 25 2012 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
If you get a 680 then you could run most games at max settings. FXAA wouldn't help you much, but I'm betting that your issue with the AMD GPUs you had was choppiness? nVidia doesn't have the stutter that AMD has. I run games at max AA on a GTX 480 so you could too, but it's good to see nVidia introducing tech for people who aren't enthusiasts.


Yeah, that's why I asked about FFXIV specifically. My AMDs don't have trouble running (any other game I've played) at fairly high settings, but trying to do that on FFXIV is a lost cause. Shadows and AA absolutely destroy performance (which isn't specific to 14, but it certainly suffers the most). Since SquareEnix seemed to be in bed with nVidia during the development of the game, I have hopes that the combination of an nVidia card (in my case, the 680) plus these new drivers minus my AMDs equals the ability to enable the shadows and some form of anti-aliasing.

What settings are you using on your 480GTX with FFXIV?
#9 May 25 2012 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Tidane wrote:
What settings are you using on your 480GTX with FFXIV?


Not currently playing, but I have 2 480s in SLI. For XIV the best bet was to override the game settings and force AA. If you click the link Wint posted and scroll down to the nVidia control panel there is an option there for 'Antialiasing - Mode'. You click that and select 'Enhance the application setting' which will enable the greyed out option below it. You then use that to select what level AA you want. It goes up to 64x SLI but I don't use more than the 16xQ setting.


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#10 May 26 2012 at 5:12 AM Rating: Good
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I just got a new computer with a 680. I will be running 3 screens @25xx resolution, so I am pretty sure I can't go near max on anything if I want it to run smoothly, but if I understand this right it could be a smart move to use FXAA instead of AA then?
#11 May 26 2012 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Belcrono wrote:
I just got a new computer with a 680. I will be running 3 screens @25xx resolution, so I am pretty sure I can't go near max on anything if I want it to run smoothly, but if I understand this right it could be a smart move to use FXAA instead of AA then?


FXAA is supposed to buff lower AA to make it look comparable to higher AA. Basically you would use this if you wanted to run 8x, but your FPS was too low. Instead of having low frame rates you lower your AA setting to 4x, enable FXAA and you get close to 8x quality but higher frame rate because your GPU isn't being taxed as hard. This will depend on the game of course and XIV has had issues with graphics engine from the start, but generally this would be the application for it.

Once you pass a certain point you're just trading barely noticeable graphics quality for barely noticeable increase in frame rate. 8x seems to be the magic number.
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#12 May 27 2012 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't run at max AA, so FXAA makes a difference imo.

As far as performance, this is strictly empirical but the game seems to be much smoother. I usually have the Fraps framerate counter running and before this driver update it wouldn't always stay at 60, but after it's been pegged there for most of my playing. I wish I had run the benchmarking before installing this driver now.
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#13 May 27 2012 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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Wint wrote:
I can't run at max AA, so FXAA makes a difference imo.


Try this Wint:

Set your 'Antialiasing - Mode' to the 'Override the application setting' and then set 'Antialiasing - Setting' to 8x CSAA. You should leave FXAA on of course. CSAA shouldn't be as taxing and it's likely you'd get about the same result as 8x MSAA without the performance hit.

Every game with be different of course and I don't play XIV currently so I can't test, but for other games this gave me a performance increase. I tried with no AA, with only FXAA, with 4x MSAA only, 4x MSAA and FXAA and finally with 8x CSAA and FXAA. For almost all of the games I tried I got the best combination of performance and visual quality with the latter. If you have a steady 60 with 4x MSAA and FXAA then you might get better visual quality and keep the same frame rate using higher AA, just CSAA instead of MSAA.




Edited, May 27th 2012 7:59pm by FilthMcNasty
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