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#1 May 27 2012 at 8:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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On one hand, Zam does seem to care little for FFXIV but, on the other hand, it's nice to be able to have a discussion with a few dozen people, going back and forth and actually knowing one another a bit, than just reading through 31 pages of random opinions like most threads on the official forums.

As much as I don't like what Zam does, it is understandable that they are trying to monetize their FFXIV site in some way, since there's not really even any money to made from the game even for SE at this point. Perhaps, if things ever pick up and FFXIV attracts enough subscribers to warrant anybody paying much attention to it, we'll see more content relating to our interest in the game itself.

Until then, it's a matter of sifting through hundreds and hundreds of semi-related official posts (where responses frequently become buried and forgotten in half a day), or coming here and arguing with people who seem almost like friends (friendship, on the internet, manifests as vague animosity, don't you know). You heartless *******. Smiley: nod


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#3 May 27 2012 at 10:13 PM Rating: Good
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That is just stupid and petty really, zam is not a FFXIV dedicated website only, it has many games that it covers, also it is up to date with lode stone, so i really dont see how they have "Given Up"
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It's ironic how people are quick to point out that a website doesn't keep updated information, yet they don't take any action posting to the database or wiki.

If I had a dime for every time I heard about how much better the FF MMO community was than any other game, and you had a dime for every time the wiki was updated or someone posted valuable information to the database; big bank take little bank, I'd walk with your money easily.
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Zam makes money from advertising, advertising makes money from number of views, games with small populations don't offer these sites much possibility to make any money or pay for staff.

FFXI was a very good game for Zam, it not only had a large number of players that checked the site but it managed to become one of the major community hubs, it got a lot of views daily and managed to pay for a rather large staff team. They put a ton of support into FFXIV because they thought it would be the next big thing, since it failed and lost the possibility to become that next big thing they lost interest along with it. Sites run to make money don't support games which cater to a very small niche market.

Since the sites that make money from advertising will offer less support for XIV it will fall on sites that run them because they like the game to take over, the problem with these kinds of sites is they run on the whim of the owners. The day they lose interest in the game is the day the site starts to suck or die.
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Until then, it's a matter of sifting through hundreds and hundreds of semi-related official posts

Actually the number of new posts on the official forum is not all that great either.
Unless a highly controversial or new issue pops up, I think it's about 30-50 replies
(and only 3-5 new topics) posted every day in the English forum.

Posts that really ask about advice for dungeons or character customization or
special drops have become rare, much more so than on the forums of a "healthy"
game. There is no new drops, and no real questions aside from those of the 2
returnees that re-activate their accounts each day, and are gone a week later.
Somebody played the "stasis" card.

I would have been gone for TERA ages ago if I just could manage to swallow
that strange, strange, strange, decidedly disturbing (sick) Korean artstyle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pyi40aIU8Y&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwpLtiP23w&feature=related

When every single female (child) model in the game just ROARS
"See my fecund-fecund hips, I am ready to have 1000 children with
any fat unshaved unwashed gamer sicko you throw at me. Just ask!"
it actually makes me shiver at the thought about what the other guys
in my PT do with their hands while their characters are locked in a
lengthy animation loop.

Edited, May 28th 2012 4:49am by Rinsui
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^^ FFXIV has toddlers........
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Yes. Now tell me about your feelings when you see one of those HAWT Lala chicks.
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I vastly prefer the clean look and serious discussions of ZAM to anything the official forums has ever offered.

That, and I hate having to dig out my token any time I want to log in.
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I would have been gone for TERA ages ago if I just could manage to swallow
that strange, strange, strange, decidedly disturbing (sick) Korean artstyle.


You don't like jiggle physics? I'll agree the voices can be a bit much and even some of the voiced work for cutscenes isn't the best, but that doesn't make or break it for me. Honestly it comes down to gameplay.

The PvP is, well... they got it right. PvP isn't perfect, they have yet to really implement battlegrounds for PvP(at least in the states) but adjustments will be made to it as time goes on I'm sure.

The battle system really works well. You have to move or dive out of the way to dodge, you have to raise your shield to block, you have to aim your spells except for a few that will lock on to targets(even then you have to aim to lock the targets) and it just feels more like you're actually involved in the outcome. There's not some nerd inside the machine crunching numbers and checking rolls to decide if you landed your ability. If you are within range and your aim is correct then you land your ability. Imagine that...

I don't see TERA as a big threat to XIV anyway. The folks at the Lodestone should be more worried about GW2.

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30 bucks is almost free

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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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Yes, Mr. Filth, that's a "break" for me. There's a time for p*rn, and there's even
lots of room for witty allusions in a game, and even, if you insist, room for explicit
nudity and whatever. But having the same broader-than-the-mongolian-steppe
hips shoved into my eyes over and over and over and over and over and over
day in day out to Elin giggling sounds and tail-wiggling just makes me want to puke.

It's not about my principle opinion concerning hamburgers.
It's about the urge to vomit after eating the seventh 99c cheeseburger.

P.S.: I know about the combat mechanics. That's why Tera is still on my radar
although I'll likely never play it.
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Yes, Mr. Filth, that's a "break" for me. There's a time for p*rn, and there's even
lots of room for witty allusions in a game, and even, if you insist, room for explicit
nudity and whatever. But having the same broader-than-the-mongolian-steppe
hips shoved into my eyes over and over and over and over and over and over
day in day out to Elin giggling sounds and tail-wiggling just makes me want to puke.


Did you just censor the word ****? I think you're taking it a bit too far, but it's your prerogative. No, it bothers me that hips and boobs bother you. You a nun or something?

I spent about 5 minutes drooling over the jiggle physics while I was experimenting with the character creator. The rest of the time I've been busy mashing faces. There is a lot to do and explore, a lot to learn because it's new and It's actually fun to play. I really couldn't recommend this game to you if your idea of playing is to log in and spam emotes and dance all day. An emotional dancing nun? That's just creepy.

Edited, May 28th 2012 10:05am by FilthMcNasty
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Did you just censor the word ****? I think you're taking it a bit too far, but it's your prerogative. No, it bothers me that hips and boobs bother you. You a nun or something?


That's not it. I just think that while I like both ham and icecream,
I would like to keep the ham out of my icecream nonetheless.

Hips: Cool.
Boobs: Cool.
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream (and not the other way round): Not cool.

I actually wonder what part of my opinion is so hard to understand.
Especially since I already mentioned that there's a time for p*rn as well. ;)
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Ham, ice cream and ****... I mean ****

I understand your opinion, I just don't see how it's in your face all day. I guess I just don't pay enough attention to it for it to bother me. I don't play with the sound on either, although I do like the soundtrack for some areas a lot.

Thanks for the sig ~.^
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30 bucks is almost free

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That's not it. I just think that while I like both ham and icecream,
I would like to keep the ham out of my icecream nonetheless.

Hips: Cool.
Boobs: Cool.
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream (and not the other way round): Not cool.

I actually wonder what part of my opinion is so hard to understand.
Especially since I already mentioned that there's a time for p*rn as well. ;)


Revealing outfits are considered ****? You must hate FFXI and FFXIV then o.o
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Until then, it's a matter of sifting through hundreds and hundreds of semi-related official posts

Actually the number of new posts on the official forum is not all that great either.
Unless a highly controversial or new issue pops up, I think it's about 30-50 replies
(and only 3-5 new topics) posted every day in the English forum.


Not sure those numbers are correct but I can't verify 100%.

The only thing I can say is that currently over 46,000 threads have been created. Which over 2 full years is around 60 per day and they can't all be a majority of one language. That's almost triple what ZAM has done.

The thread quality here lately though is dam near as bad as what goes on in the official to be honest. I just come here because I can say more things than I can in official without getting banned. ^^

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Regarding boobs, hips and ice-cream I don't think any person would complain about seeing either; perhaps the lady with the perkies because it's a too cold, but idk.

Edited, May 28th 2012 8:38am by Elionara
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I don't mind overt sexuality in female characters, mostly because it's like looking at trees for me. Where's the hot ripped men in loinclothes carrying big poleaxes?
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You a nun or something?


Not that this is completely on topic or anything, but I would just like to say how awesome it would be to meet a nun who played FFXIV.

Oh, and Tera's a damned creepy game, too. XD
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Jesus. Don't try so hard to misunderstand me.
Would you consider it more appropriate to call
the issue I have "blatantly cheap over-sexualized
dingling boob teenager ************ fantasy ***
in your face until you suffocate ridiculous pantyshot
animation catpandabunnygirl in a fat sweating nerds
bed squealing lecherous ridiculousness"?

Maybe it's my Japanese heritage (although I doubt it; our
manga beat anything in terms of explicity), but I consider
a bit of style and classyness with the option for more at
the appropriate time as by far more aesthetic and attractive
in a computer game (and actually: in real life) than boob-o-
mania no matter where you look. But then again, I also
dislike most US ****. Too rural, backstreet, and... "grunty".

The Tera style just isn't my thing. I think it's blatant. And crude.
The kind of cheap that makes you go "wow, shiny!" at first, and
yawn after a minute or two. Or, in my case, fed up. It's too obvious.
Shallow. Not erotic. Just a steaming pile of naked flesh everywhere
you look
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Maybe my standards are too high. Maybe I'm just a conservative nun.
But hey, to each his own. If Tera's constant in-your-face approach to
female nakedness is what you want or can swallow - all power to you.
In fact I'm a little envious, because my disgust for it is the only thing that
keeps me from playing a possibly pretty good game.

Edited, May 28th 2012 11:49am by Rinsui
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@Runespider

Jesus. Don't try so hard to misunderstand me.
Would you consider it more appropriate to call
the issue I have "blatantly cheap over-sexualized
dingling boob teenager ************ fantasy ***
in your face until you suffocate ridiculous pantyshot
animation catpandabunnygirl in a fat sweating nerds
bed squealing lecherous ridiculousness"?

Maybe it's my Japanese heritage (although I doubt it; our
manga beat anything in terms of explicity), but I consider
a bit of style and classyness with the option for more at
the appropriate time as by far more aesthetic and attractive
in a computer game (and actually: in real life) than boob-o-
mania no matter where you look. But then again, I also
dislike most US ****. Too rural, backstreet, and... "grunty".

The Tera style just isn't my thing. I think it's blatant. And crude.
The kind of cheap that makes you go "wow, shiny!" at first, and
yawn after a minute or two. Or, in my case, fed up. It's too obvious.
Shallow. Not erotic. Just a steaming pile of naked flesh everywhere
you look
.

Maybe my standards are too high. Maybe I'm just a conservative nun.
But hey, to each his own. If Tera's constant in-your-face approach to
female nakedness is what you want or can swallow - all power to you.
In fact I'm a little envious, because my disgust for it is the only thing that
keeps me from playing a possibly pretty good game.

Edited, May 28th 2012 11:49am by Rinsui


I need to stop reading too fast; here I was thinking you thought XIV had too much **** lol; not enough cats~! Can never have too much cat.

Although Elezan/Elvaan males with subligar should have a auto-pvp tag set whereby the moment they put it on they could be killed by any player.

Edited, May 28th 2012 8:52am by Elionara
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Umm all I see is boobies, pantyshots, more boobies, and ************* Is this what the thread at lodestone is about? So are we saying overdone **** videogame females are like Barbie? Or would Barbie be the clean, non overly **** doll? I don't let videogame **** bother me, the same way I wouldn't like to stare at Barbie sexed up. It's fake XD, which is why i can't get into **** period. Point me to the actual flesh though, that one can touch, taste, smell, and see. Yummy...

If anything though, I think this kind of *** crap can push a child to think of these things faster than normal which is not good. I know most young kids are exposed to *** or what not early these days. But that's not excuse to add to the problem.

Edited, May 28th 2012 12:50pm by sandpark

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For me, the sexiness, jiggliness, and revealingness of clothing in female characters doesn't make sense other than the whole "to please the male fans" aspect.

Because really, if I'm going to be running around swinging a sword at things and getting stabbed at by enemies, I'd at least be wearing a sports bra and enough armor to cover the vital bits. Not a harem outfit.

The FF MMOs are actually pretty good about putting more realistic armor on the lady characters.
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catwho wrote:
The FF MMOs are actually pretty good about putting more realistic armor on the lady characters.


All I'll put out their regarding clothing is my character ^^;
http://ffxiv-app.com/files/uploads/large_kitty.png
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Elionara wrote:
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The FF MMOs are actually pretty good about putting more realistic armor on the lady characters.


All I'll put out their regarding clothing is my character ^^;
http://ffxiv-app.com/files/uploads/large_kitty.png


But you're not going around claiming that it's high level armor that gives you anything more than +20 **** now, are you? Smiley: lol
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catwho wrote:
Elionara wrote:
catwho wrote:
The FF MMOs are actually pretty good about putting more realistic armor on the lady characters.


All I'll put out their regarding clothing is my character ^^;
http://ffxiv-app.com/files/uploads/large_kitty.png


But you're not going around claiming that it's high level armor that gives you anything more than +20 **** now, are you? Smiley: lol


Well I am the sluttiest looking cat on Excalibur. ^^
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Ahem cat, the sexiness does appeal to some female players too >_>; let us not be sexist here >_>
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Ahem cat, the sexiness does appeal to some female players too >_>; let us not be sexist here >_>


It's sad but true Lillitha :) Up here woman are upset at a men's centre that's going to open.
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Kinda funny ^^; I will now start a movement that all sexes get to enjoy cat's and bikini's~!
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I have to say that I agree with Rin on this one... I played the Tera beta for all of 60 minutes before I decided to uninstall it. I liked the gameplay mechanics, but running around in the newbie area, all I saw was hundreds of nearly-nude female characters prancing around. While I like my share of T&A in all forms, I don't want to be bombarded with it all the time, especially in a video game. It has a time and a place, and that is not 24/7 in-yo-face. I was actually surprised with FFXIV and the amount of cleavage some of the outfits show on the female characters (as compared to FFXI where you basically had to wait for a hume to walk by in a Scorpion Harness to catch even the slightest glimpse of side-boob lol). Not to say it is bad in FFXIV, but it is definitely more than I was expecting out of SE.

As for the topic and about ZAM giving up on FFXIV... honestly finding any sites that keep decent data about the game is hard, especially for someone that is just starting up. I would fathom to think that things will pick up on all sites when 2.0 is released and people are confident that the information they are updating will stay relevant for more than a couple months. With things changing daily, it deters most from spending any time or efford into updating. I know that I will try to update things on ZAM once 2.0 comes out (if I still fing find the game worht playing), and if others do the same, traffic will pick up, and things will progress. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
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Just a steaming pile of naked flesh everywhere you look.


Go onnnn...

I kid, I kid. You kinda make my point for me though. You login and say ooh shiny, you get over it in a matter of minutes(though I may have set a new record) and start to do what you logged in to do, which is play the game.

Would have been nice if the Lodestone community, FF being a community that typically thinks they're better than everyone else anyway, decided to step up and put in some effort to keep it maintained rather than bashing it simply for the fact that there is an announcement for the TERA database on the front page.

Edited, May 28th 2012 6:27pm by FilthMcNasty
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Every community is equal. It's just the larger the community as a whole, the higher amount of asshats you tend to find. But good can still be found in the sub communities. I like XIV and XI but I never contributed info on a wiki. But regardless of what forum I'm on. If someone I know personally is attacked on a false basis. Then I will defend that person. But I always look to avoid drama in a videogame or videogame forum. Since I visit these to relax, debate, and have fun.

I give Tera props for the combat & pvp goal. They innovated on mmo combat & did it well regardless of latency limits. Read any review and it is praised for the most part. The thing I want to see most in rpgs in general. Is questing to become blurred with story so much that you can barely tell your questing, the perfect mask. But I also hope that there are choices to be made. And that the outcomes aren't just black and white, but also grey. AI is finally reaching the point to be able to handle many variables. So when I see questing done lazily, I cry a little inside. ToR got rid of the textbox interface, GW2 is trying to make multiplayer content dynamically varied, other mmos do their little thing too. Which game is going to take everything in context & offer the total package? Don't tell me it's going to be Blizzard again in their next mmo? Please..
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On one hand, Zam does seem to care little for FFXIV but, on the other hand, it's nice to be able to have a discussion with a few dozen people, going back and forth and actually knowing one another a bit, than just reading through 31 pages of random opinions like most threads on the official forums.

As much as I don't like what Zam does, it is understandable that they are trying to monetize their FFXIV site in some way, since there's not really even any money to made from the game even for SE at this point. Perhaps, if things ever pick up and FFXIV attracts enough subscribers to warrant anybody paying much attention to it, we'll see more content relating to our interest in the game itself.

Until then, it's a matter of sifting through hundreds and hundreds of semi-related official posts (where responses frequently become buried and forgotten in half a day), or coming here and arguing with people who seem almost like friends (friendship, on the internet, manifests as vague animosity, don't you know). You heartless *******. Smiley: nod


That sums it up nicely.

I have openly lamented on the State Alchemist thread that you'd never know ZAM's lead page for FFXIV was actually about FFXIV (until you scrolled). But ultimately it's okay as long as the community here is happy with what they have. That's all that really matters. That, and it's 2.0 or bust!
#32 May 28 2012 at 9:27 PM Rating: Good
Curse you sandpark and Xoie for getting this thread back on topic! Needs more ****!
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It's easy to see why this thread derailed into sexuality in MMOs because I think the situation was summed up nicely by KaneKitty and Runespider at the start of this thread. The need for monetization is one of the largest contributors to this situation. Fan driven sites are the backbone of information dissemination for FFXIV right now. In fact some of the sites we have are so good it makes me wonder if sites part of a larger network like ZAM and YG even really have a place left with the community anymore.

On the off-topic part of this thread. I have to agree with RInsui. I had a friend who tried to get me to try out TERA and I just didn't have it in me. No amount of zips she sends me filled with screen shots of her scantly clad Elin will change my mind. I told her there was just something about the art style of the game that turned me off of it. For all I know it could have the best **** mechanics of any MMO ever made, but I'll never even give it a chance because first and foremost I have to be able to look at a game I'm playing. Maybe this is why I've stuck with FFXIV, even through the dark ages just before patch 1.18. Though I'm not sure it has anything to Japanese heritage just more a persons artistic sensibilities.

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Complaints about boobs on the internets. So wrong on so many levels. Did people forget why the internet exists and what dominates it? I never expected to run into so many prudes on a forum for a fantasy game that has scantily clad cat-women running around in it. Someone who didn't know any better would think you get assaulted by **** the moment you load the game up...

Back on topic...

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Also, you know, you could always make the pages that are missing instead of complaining about them missing. Again, its not just the mods that run and populate the site. It's everyone. I feel like people keep missing the whole point of a community wiki. We're not a database site that updates itself.


Pretty much this. Community contribution people.



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There's a difference between being prude and being classy.
Some of us have simply passed the point of "random boob will do".
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classy....Tifa....Viera....X2....XIII2.....Miqote.....class.
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I guess you are trying to be sarcastic; but in my playbook there's still a huuuuge
difference between this http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Tifa_Lockhart and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwpLtiP23w&feature=related . Can't spot it?
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Rin, nope. They both look like they need breast reductions ASAP.
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Rin, nope. They both look like they need breast reductions ASAP.

They both look like they are making him thirsty!
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Even though it's adding oil to the flame, I'll side with Rin on this one. I heard lots of good things about TERA (Except the endgame, which apparently sucks terribly -- but I never care about endgame anyway).

I will likely never play it because of how oversexualized everyone is. Or if I play it, I'd roll a male character, which goes against almost everything I stand for.

Prude.totalcount++;
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sandpark wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Rin, nope. They both look like they need breast reductions ASAP.

They both look like they are making him thirsty!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/200/1266001265911.png/



Hey hey now! How did you get a picture of my newborn son?! Lol
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Rinsui wrote:
There's a difference between being prude and being classy.
Some of us have simply passed the point of "random boob will do".


Classy? Ok. You might be past the point of random boob, but for most of us; we pass that point after a brief moment and get on with whatever the **** it was we were there to do in the first place; in this case playing a game. Welcome to the grown folks zone. I honestly think the ESRB is a joke, but you could slap suggestive themes and sexual content on any fantasy RPG MMO these days.

Docent42 wrote:
Even though it's adding oil to the flame, I'll side with Rin on this one. I heard lots of good things about TERA (Except the endgame, which apparently sucks terribly -- but I never care about endgame anyway).


Being that every game linked to on this site has boobs in it(including SC2), I think we can go ahead and separate TERA from the equation. I'm not trying to flame you guys and I really don't mean prude in an offensive way. If that's how you roll then that's how you roll, but it's a bit hypocritical to say that you're offended by ******** especially when the game we're posting in the forum of puts them on cats.

What is the protocol here? Furries are OK, but elves are off limits? Seriously...
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
sandpark wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Rin, nope. They both look like they need breast reductions ASAP.

They both look like they are making him thirsty!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/200/1266001265911.png/



Hey hey now! How did you get a picture of my newborn son?! Lol


I don't know, but whoever gets to drink off those pics is one..
Lol.. Wait a min? That's not your son! That is my best friend and son of George W. Bush, Verne Troyer, and Tinky Winky. They all got high at a party and smashed with Hilary Clinton.

But I am positive that your son is quite adorable. You almost fooled me, you're sly.
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I don't think it's a question of boob or no boob. I think it has more to do with how said boob is presented. I mean if you were in a bar ordering a drink and some woman walks up next to you and flopped a hooter out on the counter, looked at you then said "Go ahead, suck on it." Would you? Presentation counts.
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I don't think it's a question of boob or no boob. I think it has more to do with how said boob is presented. I mean if you were in a bar ordering a drink and some woman walks up next to you and flopped a hooter out on the counter, looked at you then said "Go ahead, suck on it." Would you? Presentation counts.


Oh, college. The stories I can tell. When you're not interested in women, you'd be amazed how hard some of them will try.
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I mean if you were in a bar ordering a drink and some woman walks up next to you and flopped a hooter out on the counter, looked at you then said "Go ahead, suck on it." Would you?


Hmmm. Alcohol or breast milk... "Bartender! Tell Lillitha she should be at home with her child and not at the bar!"

A breast is a breast and whether or not it's stationary or in motion isn't going to determine if it's tasteful. Giggety...

Did you guys all forget about XIV and the 'bust' size feature? I don't play so I can't login and check it, but I'm almost certain that adjusting some feature during character creation has a direct impact on breast size. If it doesn't now then it used to and I do remember some talk about it having it's own specific slider to adjust. Can we stop with the hypocritical nonsense please. Women have ******* in life and in videogames. What impact does this have on gameplay?

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Smiley: lol I'm not being sarcastic, i just think it's a pretty stupid argument, when in XI and XIV you have a race that's sole purpose is to be eye candy, also i dont play MMO'S to get hung up on weather some toon/character or whatever you wanna call it today, has or has not tits.
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Can we stop with the hypocritical nonsense please. Women have ******* in life and in videogames. What impact does this have on gameplay?


That's hypocritical nonsense. Men in real life have ****** so you vote for free ********** Highlander coconuts and shrivelled Lala shrimps? Perhaps you are fine with boobs in your icecream and Takeme Frombehind as the protagonist of the main storyline. I am not, despite being quite... uh... let's say... "positively liberated" when it comes to *** in general.

I react to boobs, I react to nudity, I react to moaning women. Even pixelated ones. And since this natural, healthy reaction distracts me from focusing on the non-sexual qualities of a game, I prefer having it limited to a peek at a Lala panty here and a flexing Miqu'ote there. So hard to understand? Guess what (and now it's getting pretty philosophical!): I think all those guys who still prefer a truckload of random boobs and pussies in a brothel (or a game) to a single alluring smile of a beautiful woman with style at the local Starbucks have not yet understood the true secrets of real brighter-than-the-sun エッチ. Which happens to be one of the few words I still, after so many years, can not adequately translate into english. Possibly because the notion of "less is more" is so alien to US culture.

Being such a man, I find overly overt nudity in the wrong context cheap, disturbing, and, all-in-all, repulsive.

So. It all boils down to personal taste, and since you (possibly) believe I am a strange Japanese castrated eunuch, and I can't seem to make you understand that this couldn't possibly be farther from the truth, we will likely not reach an agreement here today.I am quite happy with my position, knowing that it perfectly fits my feelings and desires. As long as you are with yours, there is no problem. Well, apart from me not being able to play Tera, of course
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Rinsui wrote:
I react to boobs, I react to nudity, I react to moaning women. Even pixelated ones. And since this natural, healthy reaction distracts me from focusing on the non-sexual qualities of a game, I prefer having it limited to a peek at a Lala panty here and a flexing Miqu'ote there. So hard to understand? Guess what (and now it's getting pretty philosophical!): I think all those guys who still prefer a truckload of random boobs and pussies in a brothel (or a game) to a single alluring smile of a beautiful woman with style at the local Starbucks have not yet understood the true secrets of real brighter-than-the-sun エッチ.


Yes it's a bit hard to understand, but probably because you seem to be complacent and repulsed by what I perceive as the same thing. Whether it's an Elin blushing or a Miquote taking an axe to the face it sounds like *** to me. An elf priestess dancing or a Mithra switching her *** as she walks. To me it's pretty much the same, yet you are able to distinguish differences. Fair enough.

I won't judge you if that's how you feel, but none of it is subtle to me so that's why the 'less is more' philosophy doesn't apply. I could be way off on my interpretation of what エッチ means based on your post, but it doesn't seem like something I would try to seek out in a fantasy videogame anyway. I guess I'll leave it at that.
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Omg Filth and sand! Lol.

No no. I promise I'm not making any "white Russians"'at a bar :). My son clearly is getting the virgin type of white Russian :d lol.

Back to boobs, why are we fussing about them again?
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Eh so simplified Rin is trying to say?
It is no fun when the opposite *** just gives their cookies out with no courting, foreplay, or mental stimulation leaving a hint left to the imagination? If that is what he means then I agree wholeheartedly. Nothing is worthwhile that doesn't require much effort, not in games, in the bedroom, or wherever be it sight or what not. I find half the fun in learning what makes a woman melt but keeping her right at the edge of the boiling point crescendo. Or I try my best to do that lol.
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