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#52 May 29 2012 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Sandpark, bingo. Less words, accurate summary.
Although I fear I lost the battle of holier-than-thou, since Mr. Filth claims he's beyond being disturbed by naked pixels.
I am not. ^.-/
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Ahem. Well then. Now that we know what makes you fellahs tick...
Ffxiv boob slider sounds awesome to me.
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Well if they're going to do the boob slider. They might as well do the winky slider too. Go hard or don't at all? Plus don't want them to be labeled sexist now do we? That would definintely tip the ratings into the rated mature category though. What's fair is fair.
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Well if they're going to do the boob slider. They might as well do the winky slider too. Go hard or don't at all? Plus don't want them to be labeled sexist now do we? That would definintely tip the ratings into the rated mature category though. What's fair is fair.


I'm suddenly reminded of a *** Tarutaru friend of mine in FFXI who said he just loved the male Elvaan casting animations.
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catwho wrote:
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Well if they're going to do the boob slider. They might as well do the winky slider too. Go hard or don't at all? Plus don't want them to be labeled sexist now do we? That would definintely tip the ratings into the rated mature category though. What's fair is fair.


I'm suddenly reminded of a *** Tarutaru friend of mine in FFXI who said he just loved the male Elvaan casting animations.


I love women myself. But I was just saying it should be fair across the board slider wise.
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sandpark wrote:
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Well if they're going to do the boob slider. They might as well do the winky slider too. Go hard or don't at all? Plus don't want them to be labeled sexist now do we? That would definintely tip the ratings into the rated mature category though. What's fair is fair.


I'm suddenly reminded of a *** Tarutaru friend of mine in FFXI who said he just loved the male Elvaan casting animations.


I love women myself. But I was just saying it should be fair across the board slider wise.


I'm a girl, and I approve of this idea!

I think my biggest problem with a lot of the "boob physics" in games like Tera are that real boobs usually don't move like that. Even fake silicone boobs really don't move like that. Smooth undulations may occur in male fantasies, but the reality is that large ******* flop around gracelessly and only an A or B cup is going to be running around in a strapless dress without any visible support. You know what happens to C+ cups without bras? Sag. Ugly, ugly sag. Gravity sucks.

Thanks to innovations in fabrics and design and technology, us big busted gals no longer have to wear "battle bras" to be low jiggle, but I frankly only own one strapless bra and the **** thing is near useless.

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#58 May 29 2012 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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Definitely.
Let's admit it.
We all want those 3-legged Lalafels.
A must.
#59 May 29 2012 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
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***** boobs. I want a sausage party.
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Eh so simplified Rin is trying to say?
It is no fun when the opposite *** just gives their cookies out with no courting, foreplay, or mental stimulation leaving a hint left to the imagination? If that is what he means then I agree wholeheartedly. Nothing is worthwhile that doesn't require much effort, not in games, in the bedroom, or wherever be it sight or what not. I find half the fun in learning what makes a woman melt but keeping her right at the edge of the boiling point crescendo. Or I try my best to do that lol.


You guys are not capable of separating a MMO character from a living, breathing and in some cases lactating woman? Yeah, I get that don't want a complete tramp, but we're talking about a beedeeoh game!!!

Sandpark: So what did you do yesterday?

Rinsui: I spent some time with Tera. She's feisty, but she dresses like a complete ***** and all she does is shake her *** and moan so I had to dump her.

Sandpark: Aww, that's too bad man. There's plenty of fish in the sea. Don't worry, you'll find a nice girl.

Rinsui: No dude, I was playing TERA online.

Sandpark: Man, I thought you said it was healthy...


It's ok to use real life stuff to make an analogy to try and relate a point, but trying to have a エッチ with your PC man? What is that I don't even... This is NOT what we mean when we're talking about immersion.

Edited, May 29th 2012 7:29pm by FilthMcNasty
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catwho wrote:
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sandpark wrote:
Well if they're going to do the boob slider. They might as well do the winky slider too. Go hard or don't at all? Plus don't want them to be labeled sexist now do we? That would definintely tip the ratings into the rated mature category though. What's fair is fair.


I'm suddenly reminded of a *** Tarutaru friend of mine in FFXI who said he just loved the male Elvaan casting animations.


I love women myself. But I was just saying it should be fair across the board slider wise.


I'm a girl, and I approve of this idea!

I think my biggest problem with a lot of the "boob physics" in games like Tera are that real boobs usually don't move like that. Even fake silicone boobs really don't move like that. Smooth undulations may occur in male fantasies, but the reality is that large ******* flop around gracelessly and only an A or B cup is going to be running around in a strapless dress without any visible support. You know what happens to C+ cups without bras? Sag. Ugly, ugly sag. Gravity sucks.

Thanks to innovations in fabrics and design and technology, us big busted gals no longer have to wear "battle bras" to be low jiggle, but I frankly only own one strapless bra and the **** thing is near useless.


And that gracelessness is what I love lol. I could care less about fake boobs or ittie bitties. I think the sexiest flesh parts of a rl woman are the eyes, neck , and boobs. I think gravity is beautiful for man and woman until they start getting really old. But thankfully by then. The odds are you are in a lifelong relationship with someone you love, that it isn't a big deal.

But enough talk about *******. In a game I personally don't mind sexuality being somewhat flaunted. As long as there is a clear warning on the box stating that. From that point, it is the parents or adult users choice whether to play or not.
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***** boobs. I want a sausage party.


You should really be on the server I am on and the ls I am in :D
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Heh, didn't Tonberry pick up most of *** Gamer?
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Heh, didn't Tonberry pick up most of *** Gamer?


Yep. Very nice crowd :)
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#65 May 30 2012 at 1:38 AM Rating: Excellent
Wow, when I read the recent posts in this thread and then followed the link to The Lodestone, for a minute I thought someone linked to the wrong thread!

Then I saw all the boobs over there, and I realized all is right in the world.
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#66 May 30 2012 at 2:42 AM Rating: Good
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I would prefer to talk about all the adventure and fun I had in-game myself.
Or at least about the obvious promise of the E3 trailer. Or at least about the
groundbreaking changes I know SE has in store for 2.0.

Now I made myself depressive.
#67 May 30 2012 at 6:21 AM Rating: Default
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Wow, when I read the recent posts in this thread and then followed the link to The Lodestone, for a minute I thought someone linked to the wrong thread!

Then I saw all the boobs over there, and I realized all is right in the world.


Of course all is right with the world...boobs make everything right :D

Rin...I sowwy. This should make you feel better....



(.)(.)

:D

not your thing? Fine.


8===D

Enjoy the Harry potter owl eyes and the cute smiley face!
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#68 May 30 2012 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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Well, now, back to the original topic.
...was there a original topic?
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Zam giving up on ffxiv. I beg to differ though. I see all sorts of activity here.
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real boobs usually don't move like that. Even fake silicone boobs really don't move like that.


I've wondered about that, too. These games are always making fanboys drool over the so-called "jiggle physics" but it's as though nobody involved in the process - from the designers to the consumers - actually knows how a pair of boobs functions. The way these "realistic" ******* move, it's almost as though they're made of jelly and exist in zero gravity. It's quite odd to be selling a fantasy that really doesn't exist, but yet people think represents reality. Maybe its a testament to the lack of females on these games' teams; either way, I tend to shy away from anything that touts jiggling as a feature.

edit: sh*t, I didn't mean to take it off topic again! Just pretend I posted a little higher! >_>


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real boobs usually don't move like that. Even fake silicone boobs really don't move like that.


I've wondered about that, too. These games are always making fanboys drool over the so-called "jiggle physics" but it's as though nobody involved in the process - from the designers to the consumers - actually knows how a pair of boobs functions. The way these "realistic" ******* move, it's almost as though they're made of jelly and exist in zero gravity. It's quite odd to be selling a fantasy that really doesn't exist, but yet people think represents reality. Maybe its a testament to the lack of females on these games' teams; either way, I tend to shy away from anything that touts jiggling as a feature.

edit: sh*t, I didn't mean to take it off topic again! Just pretend I posted a little higher! >_>


Edited, May 30th 2012 12:58pm by KaneKitty



I so tried to get this thread back on topic :( /facepalm Kane you /fail :(
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it's almost as though they're made of jelly and exist in zero gravity.


Hmmmmmm. Jelly boobs in zero gravity...
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it's almost as though they're made of jelly and exist in zero gravity.


Hmmmmmm. Jelly boobs in zero gravity...

Yes this is an activity too!
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I think the first game that ever made me laugh at boobs as Ninja Gaiden Sigma... the female character you play in it was hilarious. You'd run a few steps and then stop and the boobs would keep moving for a good 30 seconds after. I don't see any realism in that at all.

I think in offline games, as long as it is somewhat tastefully done, a little cleavage is perfectly fine... but all te time in an MMO that I should log into daily gets to be a little rediculous. Especially when the vast majority of the people playing the characters are 15 year old boys that just want to see them shake and jiggle. Maybe it is because I am married and have kids that I just don't see the fascination anymore, or maybe it is the fact that I get the real thing whenever I want it... who knows.
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The title of this thread should be "Interesting thread over at the Lodestone + Boobs in games"

B cups in FFXIV > C and D cups that jiggle like mad in TERA and other games.

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Especially when the vast majority of the people playing the characters are 15 year old boys that just want to see them shake and jiggle.


Do you really think the vast majority of MMO gamers are 15 year old boys playing solely to satisfy their lust for boobs? Just you and a few other mature gamers who don't about boobs anymore? The funny thing is, if you asked a 15 year old boy who plays MMOs about the boobs he's probably say something like "It's there for the old guys who are married with children that never get laid anymore."



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lol, you might be right there Filthy, although my marriage definitely isn't the norm if I'm not supposed to get laid anymore :P I really think it all boils down to preference in the end... I don't need horribly overly-exagerated boobie pixels all up in my face while I am trying to enjoy a video game, but at the same time I didn't like FFXI and the fact that the made all the women characters look like they were pre-pubecent either. Where is the happy medium? :P
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♪ Would you like to date my a-va-tar? ♫ Smiley: grin

It's hard to decide how to feel about ridiculous boobs and skimpy outfits in a game like Tera.
I think fantasy is meant to be less restricted where you'd expect to see unusual outfits and creatures and magical things you just wouldn't find in real life... if it's done well. If it's too much like a bikini fashion show, you begin to wonder if it's nothing more than a cheap marketing trick than a meaningful attempt at taking you to another realm.

And besides, if you decided to create such an outlandish girl, wouldn't you be getting a lot of unwanted attention from anyone who saw her? There's a reason girls don't actually dress like this in public (aside from the occasional cosplay, I suppose). Or is it the opposite problem where unless you're doing the hot girl routine, you won't get any attention (and isn't that worse in a game where you'd think ability was more important)?

All I know is that there really isn't the same attention paid to how the guys look. It's mostly just business with them.
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I don't need horribly overly-exagerated boobie pixels all up in my face while I am trying to enjoy a video game, but at the same time I didn't like FFXI and the fact that the made all the women characters look like they were pre-pubecent either. Where is the happy medium? :P


I'm just surprised that people are so picky about it to the point it takes away from their enjoyment of the game, much less their willingness to try it. I mean it's one thing to say that you don't like the art direction of a game, but over-sized ******* is pretty much a norm. It's not like they show up in your UI when you zoom in to first person view and obstruct your vision. You can't point the camera down trying to see your toes and get a face full of cleavage...
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Normally for me it isn't 'make or break' when it comes to boobage (I may have complained, but I played FFXI for almost a decade lol). For Tera I just couldn't deal with it... I know that actual launch and the weeks to follow would have likely been different, but the Beta was seriously hundreds of people in the starting area, and 90% of them were female character models with all their armor stripped off just jumping around or running back and forth. So I guess it has less to do with the boobs (*******) and more to do with the boobs (Moronic players) *shrug*
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over-sized ******* is pretty much a norm. It's not like they show up in your UI when you zoom in to first person view and obstruct your vision


And then, on the 30th of May, 2012, a new Tera UI mod was born.
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Boobs schmoobs. You press the 'w' key in Tera and your skirt flies up. I can't see many women wanting to play clothies in a game like that.
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I'm just surprised that people are so picky about it to the point it takes away from their enjoyment of the game, much less their willingness to try it. I mean it's one thing to say that you don't like the art direction of a game, but over-sized ******* is pretty much a norm.


Well. I'm happy FF is not "the norm" in this case. And btw, it's not just about boobs. It's about cheap and absurd male fantasy
lecherousness that smells of moldy run-down close-to-40 year involuntary single. At least for me. Because I'm used to better.

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At least the FF MMOs, WoW, and other games made the "cute" races appealing to females. As for Tera, I took one look at the Elin and shut the browser down.

I remember when WoW first came out, my MMO buddy manager at work and her husband played... she was a Night elf because he found it attractive, and he was a gnome because she thought it was cute.

Edit: Particle misapplication.

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You know what happens to C+ cups without bras? Sag. Ugly, ugly sag. Gravity sucks.


I'm a D or higher and I don't own a bra... my gf still thinks they are still gorgeous. Gravity is no big deal.
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I'm just surprised that people are so picky about it to the point it takes away from their enjoyment of the game, much less their willingness to try it. I mean it's one thing to say that you don't like the art direction of a game, but over-sized ******* is pretty much a norm.


Just cause it is a norm doesn't mean it is an okay thing though. I dunno. It does turn me off the game because it says to me that the developers are just giving fan service to some dudes, and suggests they didn't really consider what women playing the game might want.

As a feminist, I guess I just find it a little sad that there can't be at least some more options for women. It's bad in pretty much any game (for example, I hate how all the women in XIV are so disgustingly skinny - anorexic arms much?) - but that doesn't make it better or okay.

Having boobs in the game doesn't bother me so much as if you put on an identical piece of armor as a dude does that it suddenly turns into a bathing suit or something. I don't think that should be forced on women. I'd like to be able to play a game where I could make a character that actually sort of looks like me (but cooler) - so a bit butchy in build, big boobs, but wearing non-revealing clothing. Why is that a bad thing. It's not a breast slider that bugs me, it is just forcing every female character in the game to look like a ***** that annoys me.

If people want to look like that, sure give them the option, but it shouldn't be the default.
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Well. I'm happy FF is not "the norm" in this case. And btw, it's not just about boobs. It's about cheap and absurd male fantasy
lecherousness that smells of moldy run-down close-to-40 year involuntary single. At least for me. Because I'm used to better.


See in your case Rin, it's not that it bothers you and you can move on; you mad.

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At least the FF MMOs, WoW, and other games made the "cute" races appealing to females. As for Tera, I took one look at the Elin and shut the browser down.


I can't really speak on the general consensus of females since I am not a female, but I don't think any of the races in WoW are 'cute'. Then again, 'cute' isn't really something I want my character to look like anyway. I'm going into a dungeon to slay dragons and sh*t, not a fashion show at the mall.

Human females have as much front meat as any female race in any of the MMOs listed in the ZAM directory. They might not be as pronounced as in TERA, but they do jiggle.

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Just cause it is a norm doesn't mean it is an okay thing though. I dunno.


Women in fantasy games usually fit the 6'1" 110 lbs(mostly breast weight) never leave the house wearing more than a glorified bra and panties mold. I didn't create this and I am not trying to justify it, but it's been around in fantasy RPG type games, movies ect.for ages and it's not likely to change. If it does change, it will probably default to the norm with the option to add turkey neck, arm flaps, cellulite and *** flab.

You'd think that teenage boys and young men dominate the videogame market, but it's kids and older women. Go figure.

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I know a woman who uses that W key to tease men or excite chatter in RL. They don't let the whole dress fly up, but like the command of attention good or bad that brings with it. Before someone calls her a *****. She has had a bf for three years and as far as I know. She has not cheated on him. She did it a gas station once when all three of us were going to the beach. Almost caused a wreck between two cars with male drivers. I was like f#@$, Did you have to do that **** now? Some older lady told her to wear something to cover up better. Then her bf and her start laughing hysterically, while I'm blushing in embarrasment.

There should be options to conceal or not for both *** characters as Olo said. Clothes don't make the ***** though. You can be a ***** in ten pounds of clothes. If you're a ***** naked, you're a ***** clothed. ****, clothes don't define the person. Someone with 1000 tattoos and piercing could be a better person than an a person decked out in conservative clothing. Everyone has a touch of freak inside them. Some are open and honest. And some are in the closet like child molesting priests.

These moral facades or walls we build around us instill fear or hate around us. If someone is ***, they are ***. You can't cover that up forever and be honest/happy in life. We need to stop lying to ourselves. Or someone is going to hurt eventually. Judge people on their action or personalities. Not the false exterior.
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Rate up for you sandy for the pep talk even though you contradicted yourself a bit. I'm not sure what the last bit had to do with art direction in a video game, but I'm with it. /slowclap
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Well *** does incite emotion in videogames in story or art direction. People say ugly things on this subject. This whole thread has touched on this. Kevin Van Ord of gamespot got really emotional when reading the *** bash comments for ME3.

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You say that it's wrong to judge something based on it's appearance. We should be accepting or at least tolerant of people's choice to look how they want to look and be who they want to be right?

I want to wear a plate metal thong. DON'T JUDGE ME BRO!

Jus sayin'

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I won't judge you. You might get thrown in jail due to the laws of the world, depending on where you wear that lol. I got an unwelcome advance from a priest, when I was younger attending a private church school. I'm no longer a catholic. But not because of that. I just don't agree with their beliefs & practices. Evil comes in many shades. Could be a metal thong wearing guy or the picture perfect leave it to beaver father figure.
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I won't judge you. You might get thrown in jail due to the laws of the world, depending on where you wear that lol.


I totally meant in the game and I was just being a smart ***. You say that people shouldn't be judged on their appearance, yet there are people in this thread who are repulsed by a girl in a video game with a metal thong on and as such, have judged such games to be unworthy. I can be accepting of a character in a video game who likes to floss cheeks.


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Ah ok lol, I am terrible at picking up up on humor, sarcasm, or whatever on the internet. In a game, I don't let that stuff bother me either. If the game is good. I will play it until I'm bored.
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I totally meant in the game and I was just being a smart ***. You say that people shouldn't be judged on their appearance, yet there are people in this thread who are repulsed by a girl in a video game with a metal thong on and as such, have judged such games to be unworthy. I can be accepting of a character in a video game who likes to floss cheeks.

That's sophism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism , modern usage ). You appear to make a claim for *** players
and old women, while being a heterosexual young man whose aim clearly not is a **** for desktop decoration and
saggy granny tits for lunch. Your insistence on "liberal expression" is based on the (rightful) assumption that neither
SE nor national age rating organizations would have the balls to let a game filled with willie-wagging highlander
homos pass with a "teen" sticker on the box. Dishonest, much?

Next, the whole teen-talk of "people shouldn't be judged on their appearance". The credo of the anti-autoritarian 90s.
When a woman shows up in a bikini at my dad's funeral, I'll throw her out no matter how much she insists on "liberty
of expression". My ***. People choose their appearance as a way to express their personality and opinion, so I have
every right to use that appearance as an indicator of who I'm dealing with. When a emo dresses up as a emo, he
generally does so because he's a emo.

Most of what you repeat throughout this thread sounds like a direct quiote from "Smart Discussion 1&1" or "Playing
the ****/Liberty/Minority Card: A Sure Way to Win an Argument Without Arguments". A nice sortiment of common
buzzwords meant to distract from your sole point: you like boobs. You like them in your games. You don't understand
why women, grown up adult men and children could be disturbed by near-naked underage girlies (Tera's Elin Race)
with hips broad enough to accomodate the Pisa tower or human females whose main purpose seems to be to giggle,
moan, wiggle their asses, and provide an attachment for zero-gravity boob jellies.

Fine. If that's your level, that's your level. I am just pretty confident that a considerable percentage of both female and
sexually non-starved male players find the constant barrage of badly covered prurience and (quite literally) disproportionate
nudity Tera offers superfluous, tiresome, surreal, and ultimately preposterous.

It's not thay I dislike nude women. I believe that's one of the best things this world has to offer. But Tera STINKS of male
fantasies like the gullies of love hotel hill (Tokyo). The women in Tera are not even "female". They are the mere projection
of what poor, sad, lonely, frustrated teenager boys want women to be like, because they don't have the smarts or means
to secure access to the real thing.

Edited, May 31st 2012 3:52am by Rinsui
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I thought guys play Elin because it satisfies their fantasies of being a little girl. I don't think any guy who plays female characters does so just because they find them hot.

The detractors of the game seem far more focused on the boobs and revealing clothing than anyone playing the game. I guess puritans are the lewdest of all.
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That's sophism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism , modern usage ). You appear to make a claim for *** players
and old women, while being a heterosexual young man whose aim clearly not is a **** for desktop decoration and
saggy granny tits for lunch.


Actually, no. I wasn't making a claim for anyone, nor am I trying to deceive anyone. I don't have a problem with people in general and I don't discriminate against anyone regardless of age, *** or sexual preference. All I did was take a statement and apply it to the argument.

Rinsui wrote:
When a woman shows up in a bikini at my dad's funeral, I'll throw her out no matter how much she insists on "liberty
of expression". My ***.


Now you're being unreasonable. Despite me repeating it so many times I've lost count, we're talking about appearance in a fantasy video game. This is a far cry from anyone's funeral, wedding or any other event where you would expect guests to dress accordingly. I'd link you the wikipedia article on context, but I'm sure you're up on that. Be reasonable in your argument. It's hard to take you seriously when you compare a world where people ride magical flying ponies to reality.

Rinsui wrote:
A nice sortiment of common
buzzwords meant to distract from your sole point: you like boobs. You like them in your games. You don't understand
why women, grown up adult men and children could be disturbed by near-naked underage girlies (Tera's Elin Race)
with hips broad enough to accommodate the Pisa tower or human females whose main purpose seems to be to giggle,
moan, wiggle their asses, and provide an attachment for zero-gravity boob jellies.


Understated by a long shot. I @#%^ing love boobs but I have no earthly idea what a sortiment is. I do understand that there are people who might be disturbed by them and I've said before that these games are not for children. What I don't understand is why the rancor for revealing clothing is only selective. How is it that you can be against this in every other fantasy game, but content with it in another?

Elin don't have boobs and aside from daisy duke's, they don't really wear revealing clothing. I guess short shorts could count, but it's far from nudity. I don't really see hip size as a sexual thing; I've heard the term 'child-bearing hips' and maybe a it's preference that just doesn't strike me, but if it's a battle of hips then I'd put all my gil down on your local Lala winning that one. You're reaching man. Again, something is cool in one game but it's repulsive in the next?

Perhaps I'm not healthy. I like to leave reality temporarily in favor of adventure in a digital world as much as the next man, but I don't go into that world seeking anything other than face-smashing entertainment. I don't play one handed. I don't fantasize about computer games. A pixelated character has never made me blush. I think about the closest thing I've come to any of the aforementioned was a rather large crush on Supergirl aka Helen Slater back in the ******** I went and dated myself), but that wasn't a fantasy thing and she's a real woman. I would have mashed her with or without the suit. ****, I would've worn the suit.

What were we talking about again?

Edited, May 31st 2012 4:52am by FilthMcNasty
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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It's not like women don't have their own "unrealistic" ideals about the perfect guy, either, even in the realm of fantasy:

http://www.ginsburgillustration.com/romance/romance_23.html

And I would be equally surprised if the typical real life male MMO player could ever model for a romance novel cover, or act like an emotionally balanced and caring individual who only has a heart for the woman he loves, is good with children, is a self-made millionaire, is always dressed appropriately, and likes working with his hands.

So, really, the expectation gap is quite universal. Smiley: wink It's just that one side's unrealistic fantasies are catered to more keenly than the other.

Edited, May 31st 2012 5:21am by Xoie
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And I would be equally surprised if the typical real life male MMO player could ever model for a romance novel cover, or act like an emotionally balanced and caring individual who only has a heart for the woman he loves, is good with children, is a self-made millionaire, is always dressed appropriately, and likes working with his hands.


That's definitely a fantasy.

Xoie wrote:
It's just that one side's unrealistic fantasies are catered to more keenly than the other.


Well my avatar is everything you mentioned above and is built just like the guy in the picture you linked, but I've got a haircut. Wanna date?
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Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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Looks like we're not the first ones to have that discussion:
http://persephonemagazine.com/2012/03/tera-beta-review-so-good-so-bad/

In the end, it's taste. Your taste is not mine, Filth, and mine is not yours. And that is fine.
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http://www.ginsburgillustration.com/romance/romance_23.html

Coming from a woman that link for me =, I'd rather see a busty beautiful broad. Sorry, as much as I love my husband, the site of a phallus is just completely horrid. Sorry fellahs.

Now as for the rest of what Xoie:
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emotionally balanced and caring individual who only has a heart for the woman he loves, is good with children, is a self-made millionaire, is always dressed appropriately, and likes working with his hands.


Yes very true.
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