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#1 Sep 11 2012 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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We would like to announce the future schedule for the operation and billing procedures with regards to the closing of all FINAL FANTASY XIV worlds (current version).

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#2 Sep 12 2012 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Lodestone wrote:
If your service account or character is reactivated on or before September 29, 2012, you will be immediately billed for 30 days of service. After this, you will be able to play the current version of FINAL FANTASY XIV for free until the services end.


Yeah, um... someone needs to explain to SE exactly what the word 'free' means.

**** like this, man. I'll admit that I'm probably one of SE's toughest critics. Deservedly so, but lately I've eased up on them. Then all of a sudden they come along and yank the ARR welcome mat right out from underneath me.

Not only do you have to pay for the 'free' month prior to servers going down, but you have your sub fees increase for XI if you bundled them for a discount. SE be trollin!
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#3 Sep 12 2012 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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Sounds like October may be billed but November's 10 days will be free.

Hmmm, will it be a free for all? Chocobos & Horsebirds living together, Lalafell sacrifice, mass hysteria! But when the world ends as everyone knows it, will everyone feel fine?
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#4 Sep 12 2012 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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zoogelio wrote:
Sounds like October may be billed but November's 10 days will be free.

Hmmm, will it be a free for all? Chocobos & Horsebirds living together, Lalafell sacrifice, mass hysteria! But when the world ends as everyone knows it, will everyone feel fine?


From what I understand, the remaining portion of October is free (and of course up to November 10th as well) depending on when your billing date falls. September 29th is the cut-off point. So if you are billed on the 30th, you'll get September 30th till closing free. If you are billed on the 28th, you'll get the 28th of October till closing free.

So, basically, if you aren't subscribed and want to see the end of the world, sooner is better than later because you'll have more "free" time that way for the same price.

Edited, Sep 12th 2012 12:48pm by Xoie
#5 Sep 12 2012 at 11:05 AM Rating: Default
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zoogelio wrote:
Sounds like October may be billed but November's 10 days will be free.

No maybe about it. The quote was lifted directly from the Lodestone.

You have to have an active, paid for service account either way. If you're one of the lucky few who has their billing services end exactly on the 30th of September then October and the few days in November are free. If not, you get billed for September/October and you get whatever is left for 'free'.

If you previously had an account and quit at any time during the subscription service, you need to reactivate prior to the 30th and pay for a month to be able to get whatever is left for 'free'.

If you're a new player then you have to create your account before the 30th and October is considered your trial month. Beyond the 30th, they aren't allowing people to create new accounts.


Edited, Sep 12th 2012 1:07pm by FilthMcNasty
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#6 Sep 12 2012 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
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Non-issue anyway you look at it.

Move along...nothing to see here.
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#7 Sep 12 2012 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
Lodestone wrote:
If your service account or character is reactivated on or before September 29, 2012, you will be immediately billed for 30 days of service. After this, you will be able to play the current version of FINAL FANTASY XIV for free until the services end.


Yeah, um... someone needs to explain to SE exactly what the word 'free' means.

sh*t like this, man. I'll admit that I'm probably one of SE's toughest critics. Deservedly so, but lately I've eased up on them. Then all of a sudden they come along and yank the ARR welcome mat right out from underneath me.

Not only do you have to pay for the 'free' month prior to servers going down, but you have your sub fees increase for XI if you bundled them for a discount. SE be trollin!


You would have to be one of those stupid people who starts a SE mmo game at the end of a month. I renewed on the 4th, hence Free means Free.

How else would you word it?
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Louiscool wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
Lodestone wrote:
If your service account or character is reactivated on or before September 29, 2012, you will be immediately billed for 30 days of service. After this, you will be able to play the current version of FINAL FANTASY XIV for free until the services end.


Yeah, um... someone needs to explain to SE exactly what the word 'free' means.

sh*t like this, man. I'll admit that I'm probably one of SE's toughest critics. Deservedly so, but lately I've eased up on them. Then all of a sudden they come along and yank the ARR welcome mat right out from underneath me.

Not only do you have to pay for the 'free' month prior to servers going down, but you have your sub fees increase for XI if you bundled them for a discount. SE be trollin!


You would have to be one of those stupid people who starts a SE mmo game at the end of a month. I renewed on the 4th, hence Free means Free.

How else would you word it?

People generally want to start a game when they buy it and I haven't asked around, but I would also assume that most people don't wait until the 1st to start playing it.

Just out of curiosity, do you really blame the consumer for being stupid? Any and every other company is competent enough to run a subscription service that bills customers for 30 days of service. SE does now, but it wasn't all that long ago when they could only handle billing from the beginning to the end of the month. Sub on the 29th? **** out of luck. Pay once to get you to the end of the month and again on the 1st for the following month.

Whether or not you get 11 days or 40 days doesn't really matter to me, because I won't be playing anyway. It just seems odd to me that they wouldn't honor the discount for packaging XI/XIV subscriptions while they make the transition to ARR. It's not a deal-breaker, but definitely a head scratch moment.

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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#9 Sep 12 2012 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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People generally want to start a game when they buy it and I haven't asked around, but I would also assume that most people don't wait until the 1st to start playing it.

Just out of curiosity, do you really blame the consumer for being stupid? Any and every other company is competent enough to run a subscription service that bills customers for 30 days of service. SE does now, but it wasn't all that long ago when they could only handle billing from the beginning to the end of the month. Sub on the 29th? sh*t out of luck. Pay once to get you to the end of the month and again on the 1st for the following month.

Whether or not you get 11 days or 40 days doesn't really matter to me, because I won't be playing anyway. It just seems odd to me that they wouldn't honor the discount for packaging XI/XIV subscriptions while they make the transition to ARR. It's not a deal-breaker, but definitely a head scratch moment.


Yes, yes, I am well aware about the old sub drama with SE, which is specifically why I said:

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who starts a SE mmo game at the end of a month


And whoooooo did I blame? You're getting all feisty because some people will get less FREE time than others, depending on when they subbed, and saying it ISN'T free.

WHO GIVES A SH*T?

Someone needs to explain to you what free is. Getting something you didn't pay for.

And if you can find 2 people that currently sub to XI and XIV, I will never call you out on all your stupid bullsh*t again. I don't even see how this is an issue because... well let's do the math, shall we?

FFXIV: $9.99
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FFXI: $7.00

Total: $16.99

FFXI without subscription discount: $12.95

PHEW! I am tired from slapping you in the face with all this math, I tell ya. Sounds like you're saving even more money than you previously were, don't it? I'm not even a college professor, and never pursued that Doctoral in Economics, but still, I was able to figure that one out.
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#10 Sep 12 2012 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
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That drama no longer exists so it's irrelevant, much like the comment you made to support the reasoning.

Louiscool wrote:
And whoooooo did I blame?

You didn't blame SE, you blamed the people who don't sub at a specific time. Are you now saying that SE is stupid instead of their customers? I can't keep up.

Louiscool wrote:
Someone needs to explain to you what free is. Getting something you didn't pay for.

The bottom line is that there will be a lot of customers who have to pay for 2 weeks, 1 week or even a day for a full month of service if they want to keep their accounts active in time to take part in the 'free' period for XIV. They could actually call it free if they prorated the monthly charge to bridge the gap between the end of your cycle in September until the 30th when it actually starts. This would make sense, it would avoid confusion and it works, as many companies have known for quite some time now...

Louiscool wrote:
FFXIV: $9.99
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FFXI: $7.00

Total: $16.99

FFXI without subscription discount: $12.95

PHEW! I am tired from slapping you in the face with all this math, I tell ya. Sounds like you're saving even more money than you previously were, don't it? I'm not even a college professor, and never pursued that Doctoral in Economics, but still, I was able to figure that one out.

What the **** kind of broken logic is that?

Spending less != saving more

If you walk out of a grocery store with half the items that were on your list then you didn't save any money, you spent less. If you walk out of a grocery store with the 100$ worth of groceries that were on your list for $80, you saved money. Sure, in the case of XI/XIV you aren't spending as much, but you also don't receive service beyond early November. You don't really need a doctorate to figure that out Smiley: tongue


Edited, Sep 12th 2012 7:19pm by FilthMcNasty
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Rinsui wrote:
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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#11 Sep 12 2012 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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The XI/XIV Discount argument doesn't really make sense though. I mean, you are no longer paying for the FFXIV service right? The discount for FFXI didn't count when we were in the free period, and was brought back when they started charging again.

I can see your point with the pro-rating though.
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#12 Sep 12 2012 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Double post

Edited, Sep 12th 2012 10:45pm by Louiscool
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#13 Sep 12 2012 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Louiscool wrote:
The XI/XIV Discount argument doesn't really make sense though. I mean, you are no longer paying for the FFXIV service right? The discount for FFXI didn't count when we were in the free period, and was brought back when they started charging again.

Putting myself in SE's shoes for ease of explanation...

If my customers put enough faith in me to restore their beloved FF to glory and make XIV a game worth paying for, I'd return the favor by extending the discount.

Think for a moment about what an XI subscriber should represent to me. This is a person who is in some way responsible for XI being the highest grossing game in FF history; a history that spans several decades and is the reason why I'm still in business in the first place...

If it were up to me, anyone who had subscribed to XIV and XI at the same time would have their XI sub lowered. I would also allow anyone who purchased and registered an XIV service account prior to the cutoff date(9/30/10 to 9/30/12) to be a Legacy member. People who subbed for XIV service since January 2012 would get some other nifty bonus on top of all that.

Edited, Sep 13th 2012 2:24am by FilthMcNasty
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#15 Sep 15 2012 at 4:12 AM Rating: Good
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carolgreen165 wrote:
you have your sub fees increase for XI if you bundled them for a discount. SE be trollin!


Look, I admit the timing is poor but SE extended a discount for a period of time now that period of time is over the price went back to what it used to be. I just don't see how that is 'trollin'. This exact pattern is carried out every day in supermarkets, restaurants and a host of other industries.

Edited, Sep 15th 2012 6:13am by kainsilv
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