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#1 Sep 30 2012 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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So in the special talk session video they discussed having servers operated in the Americas, Europe and Japan. I was curious how people feel this will effect server populations and if the game is popular enough in other countries to dedicate servers specifically for that region. Understandably people will still play in different regions for their own specified reasons, but if given the opportunity to reduce lag and such do you think it could effect server populations and overall community aspect of FFXIV?
#2 Sep 30 2012 at 8:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I want to see people no mater when I log into the game. A little lag is not a problem for me. They should be working to fix and control lag, no mater where the server is located. If I jump on at 1pm EST I want to see people, even if they are Jp. Same for my normal play time. The biggest turn off would be me logging in and seeing no one there.

I tend to play in the mid day a lot which is EU night time. I would hate to pick an EU server to play mid day but miss out on the USA night playing time. Same goes for picking a US server for night but having it dead at mid day because everyone is working. I think Region "Segregation" is a form of MMORPG/Gamer Racism and I don't like it.

Isn't the goal to have people from all over the world playing together to build a community? I like having a chance to play next to someone from Japan. It makes me feel like a true adventurer. Anyway that'
s how I feel about it.
#3 Oct 01 2012 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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You must understand that they aren't making you choose to connect to the server in your region. You are free to choose whichever server you want. I'm sure with the new server structure they will improve, but not remove lag caused the the larger distances. It's something they simply could not fix with the current servers and I'm sure they've taken this into account when purchasing new equipment with which to host the game on.
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#4 Oct 01 2012 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I want to see people no mater when I log into the game. A little lag is not a problem for me. They should be working to fix and control lag, no mater where the server is located. If I jump on at 1pm EST I want to see people, even if they are Jp. Same for my normal play time. The biggest turn off would be me logging in and seeing no one there.

I tend to play in the mid day a lot which is EU night time. I would hate to pick an EU server to play mid day but miss out on the USA night playing time. Same goes for picking a US server for night but having it dead at mid day because everyone is working. I think Region "Segregation" is a form of MMORPG/Gamer Racism and I don't like it.

Isn't the goal to have people from all over the world playing together to build a community? I like having a chance to play next to someone from Japan. It makes me feel like a true adventurer. Anyway that'
s how I feel about it.


Agree with this but modern MMOs just can't work the way FFXI did. Players are incredibly unforgiving these days and lag will kill population numbers.

FFXIV needs to be perfect when it launches and lag will be a serious problem, they are doing what they need to do.
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#5 Oct 01 2012 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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I see no other cost effective alternative to removing the .5 sec lag which currently plagues the game. Except what SE is doing with the none region locked regional servers. FFXI had the same issue, difference being is that at that time SE did not listen to feed back so nothing was done. As well going off memory game play was such that the lag did not for the most part (excluding HNM) make a difference. With the change of games and increase of "dynamic" battles, that lag as many here have see can be the turning point for a fight going from good to wipe. Will this affect things? Yes, no doubt about that. This is not a minor change, however.. it's the choice, do NA and EU play catch up to the JP server, or do we split the track? SE seems to think splitting the track is the best path, not much to do except wait and see.

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#6 Oct 01 2012 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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MMO players were incredibly unforgiving even when FFXI came out. Many MMO players who were not FFXI players hated the notion of Japan-based servers. Some wanted servers in each region for lag issues (the whole JP button idea FFXI players had back then. Basically the issue of fairness), some just wanted to play with their own kind (yeah, for some reason, MMO players were anti-Japanese games on the whole far before it became cool to hate Japan in the Seventh Gen of console gaming, a time when being anti-Japan was unthinkable due to Nintendo, Sega, Sony, not to mention video game/non-console developers there. Anyone know why? I just attribute it to primary PC gamers who were exposed to fewer Japanese games because PC gaming in NA is overwhelmingly NA & EU with few coming from other parts of the world as opposed to console gamers. In doing some research, I did find chatter in the '90s from that Atari generation that was quite anti-Japan whereas anyone who came of gaming age in the Third-Fifth Gens was strongly pro-Japanese because Western companies were far behind). With the expansion of the MMO market, I'm not sure how much it's changed, though a lot of Korean MMOs seem to do fine. FFXI attracted an audience, but it targetted some different demos for MMOs (being console-based or dual-platform, being Japanese) and alienated some of the main MMO audience and it had a lower population threshold necessary for success. FFXIV's is far higher as it was made assuming it would attract a larger audience.

Region servers is one concession they need to try and get some eyes on the game. It may, or the game's bigger issues may override it (the failure of 1.0). It may lead to Balkanized servers, but that's an issue I guess they would find preferrable to dealing with than a failed game with a sub-profitable population size.
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#7 Oct 01 2012 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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PC gamers have been playing cross-country for years, the cool to hate on all things Japanese came in conjunction with the wide spread of anime on TV (at least that's what I suspect). We've been playing co-op with Europeans and Asians for decades with very little issues in RTS, FPS, TBS, and silly card games.

I'm happy about the lag thing, but I'm sad to know we'll be watching the community self segregate itself. Even though I can't properly communicate with the JP players it's satisfying when you stay up super late one night or something and no one is speaking English, and after multiple (frustrating) attempts you net an adeventure with a group of players who can't communicate with 100% effiency... AND YOU WIN. I truly love that feeling and it wipes away the frustration I get from the whole JP only or English only crap that you sometimes get at certain times in XI and XIV.
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