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#1 Nov 29 2012 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello everyone, looking forward immensely to ARR. I didn't have the scratch to build a computer to run FFXIV before but I'm going to be ready for 2.0!

I was wondering if any of Nobuo's scores are present in 2.0. In watching some of the gameplay vids I didn't hear any familiar songs from the previous version. I really hope they didn't scrap his tracks, as some of them were quite amazing.

I know it's not nearly as big of deal as playability or anything, but his compositions always seem to help me become more immersed in the experience than other composers they have used in the past. The atmosphere he set with his music seemed to be pretty spot-on before. So here's to more Nobuo Uematsu in Final Fantasy's future!
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#2 Nov 29 2012 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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It wasn't scrapped. His tracks are still in the game, though it sounds like a few areas had their music changed. Remember Uematsu isn't the only composer working on FFXIV either.

Edited, Nov 29th 2012 6:54pm by BrokenFox
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Discussed here towards the bottom:

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1354184263276678127
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#4 Nov 29 2012 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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It wasn't scrapped. His tracks are still in the game, though it sounds like a few areas had their music changed. Remember Uematsu isn't wasn't the only composer working on FFXIV either.

IIRC Nobuo Uematsu no longer works as a composer for SE.
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Sort of funny. I made a thread almost exactly two years ago (old username, hence the difference) in regards to Uematsu's being involved in the vast majority of music in Final Fantasy XIV (see here) and how it compared to the music in Final Fantasy XI. The old thread definitely seemed to confirm that at least a plurality of the responses to it agreed on Uematsu's music in FFXIV really just ... not really working overall. Now it seems there is more and more concern that he is getting the heave-ho from being one of the only composers around for the game.

Personally, I'd actually be happy if that was the case. I know that might sound harsh, and I really do like a lot of his past works which he composed for the Final Fantasy series in the past, but I always felt that his work for XIV was one of his weakest, and as a poster in the old thread mentioned when comparing both composer count, which composers did the most music, and overall song totals between the two games (core games, excluding XI's expansions), he was possibly overworked and stretched way too thin.

Whatever the case, I'll be glad to see what they can do without Uematsu not being the primary composer working on XIV's music if that is the case.

Edited, Nov 29th 2012 11:30pm by Satisiun
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#6 Nov 29 2012 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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BrokenFox wrote:
It wasn't scrapped. His tracks are still in the game, though it sounds like a few areas had their music changed. Remember Uematsu isn't wasn't the only composer working on FFXIV either.

IIRC Nobuo Uematsu no longer works as a composer for SE.


Freelance composer working from outside. Masashi Hamauzu did similar role after leaving S-E after the internal affairs on the development of FFXIII. He returned to partially work on the composition of XIII-2.
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#7 Nov 30 2012 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Why do so many threads about Uematsu seem to pop up as soon as I rear my head? ;_; I think at least some of you guys know that I'm not good at keeping my opinions to myself. Anyway, I guess between several threads on the subject, including the one that was just linked from two years ago, and the one where it just came up the other day, I guess I've said about all I can really say.
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Same here.

A lot of what I've said in the posted thread I still believe.

Off topic, because I'm bored, I like Uematsu when he's just messing around with melodies and his non-academic or self taught compositions; his takes and arrangements on themes of vaudeville, island music or snippets of a waltz. I don't like his more theatrical or operatic songs like "One Winged Angel" in part, because I don't like classical music as much.

I'd much rather listen to the Zozo theme or Ghost Train theme because, well, you just don't hear that in other (western) RPGs. They were relatively simple yet unique, but most important they fit the mood of the scene. Unfortunately we really didn't get too much of that in FFXIV.

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In all fairness there wasn't much of a theme or clear storyline that I could tell until Yoshi took over. It would be difficult to score something for a world that was really just a shell.
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Same here.

A lot of what I've said in the posted thread I still believe.

Off topic, because I'm bored, I like Uematsu when he's just messing around with melodies and his non-academic or self taught compositions; his takes and arrangements on themes of vaudeville, island music or snippets of a waltz. I don't like his more theatrical or operatic songs like "One Winged Angel" in part, because I don't like classical music as much.

I'd much rather listen to the Zozo theme or Ghost Train theme because, well, you just don't hear that in other (western) RPGs. They were relatively simple yet unique, but most important they fit the mood of the scene. Unfortunately we really didn't get too much of that in FFXIV.



Uematsu was inspired by the Carl Orff version of the Carmina Burana, which was itself an experimental composition when it first came out. O Fortuna is one of the most iconic fanfares of the 20th century, and he tried hard to capture that kind of raw emotion in his operatic works.

Actually, the most amazing thing he did was the Bach chorale in Dancing Mad from FFVI. (I want to hear that played on a giant pipe organ in a future Distant Worlds concert someday.)

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#11 Dec 01 2012 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, the most amazing thing he did was the Bach chorale in Dancing Mad from FFVI. (I want to hear that played on a giant pipe organ in a future Distant Worlds concert someday.)


Dancing Mad is probably my favorite of his compositions... I don't download much music really, but I've probably listened to the Black Mages rendition (which covers the organ part on the synthesizer) a couple of hundred times.
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