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#1 Feb 20 2013 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone watching the ps4 press conference? looks like there is a chance of ARR coming to ps4 after all
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#2 Feb 20 2013 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but SE announced that they will announce the next final fantasy title at E3. At first I was like "Awww yeah!" but then I was like "Awww maaaan....". :(
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#3 Feb 20 2013 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Was planning on getting the next xbox but wow...sony really brought it this time.
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#4 Feb 20 2013 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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It's supposedly going to be cheapish. Two models priced somewhere around $450 and $550. I'd say ps3 would have been the leading console this gen if it hadn't had such a rough start at launch due to it's outragous price tag. Most consoles are going to be sold to parents purchasing a console for their kids as a holiday gift. They saw the $600 price tag and went with the cheaper 2nd choice.
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I'd say ps3 would have been the leading console this gen if it hadn't had such a rough start at launch due to it's outragous price tag. Most consoles are going to be sold to parents purchasing a console for their kids as a holiday gift. They saw the $600 price tag and went with the cheaper 2nd choice.

Hard to say. I thought that xbox had a better library overall.
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Hard to say. I thought that xbox had a better library overall. [/quote]

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Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at. Well since the backwards compatibility is available through cloud storage, meaning we can just install ARR on the HDD the same way I installed FFXI on my 60 gig ps3. If they offer an upgrade for ps4, that would be awesome.

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GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at.

I felt that xbox had more to offer in that department too. I wasn't a huge fan of any console software this gen, but I thought that Tales of Vesperia was a pretty good game.

Also, do people really rate me down for having a different opinion?

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#9 Feb 20 2013 at 11:08 PM Rating: Good
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It's supposedly going to be cheapish. Two models priced somewhere around $450 and $550. I'd say ps3 would have been the leading console this gen if it hadn't had such a rough start at launch due to it's outragous price tag. Most consoles are going to be sold to parents purchasing a console for their kids as a holiday gift. They saw the $600 price tag and went with the cheaper 2nd choice.



so the high end ps4 is 50 dollars less tan what the high end ps3 was at launch and thats youre definition of "cheapish"?
#10 Feb 20 2013 at 11:32 PM Rating: Default
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GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at. Well since the backwards compatibility is available through cloud storage, meaning we can just install ARR on the HDD the same was I installed FFXI on my 60 gig ps3. If they offer an upgrade for ps4, that would be awesome.


360 had by far a better JRPG library than PS3 and the best JRPG title this generation was on Wii.....
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swisa wrote:
It's supposedly going to be cheapish. Two models priced somewhere around $450 and $550. I'd say ps3 would have been the leading console this gen if it hadn't had such a rough start at launch due to it's outragous price tag. Most consoles are going to be sold to parents purchasing a console for their kids as a holiday gift. They saw the $600 price tag and went with the cheaper 2nd choice.



so the high end ps4 is 50 dollars less tan what the high end ps3 was at launch and thats youre definition of "cheapish"?


I included the "ish" part for a reason. You also must consider the lower end version, not just the higher end. I paid $600 for my fatty ps3 when it was released. It was horribly expensive back when I was making $8 an hour. I have a job where I can afford it much easier now, but it's always nice to see a price tag closer to what people can afford instead of having to exclude many of your prospective buyers because you make the price tag too high.
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Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at. Well since the backwards compatibility is available through cloud storage, meaning we can just install ARR on the HDD the same was I installed FFXI on my 60 gig ps3. If they offer an upgrade for ps4, that would be awesome.


360 had by far a better JRPG library than PS3 and the best JRPG title this generation was on Wii.....


Oh? Which game was that? One of the Tales games?
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Ostia wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at. Well since the backwards compatibility is available through cloud storage, meaning we can just install ARR on the HDD the same was I installed FFXI on my 60 gig ps3. If they offer an upgrade for ps4, that would be awesome.


360 had by far a better JRPG library than PS3 and the best JRPG title this generation was on Wii.....


Luckily enough, I have all 3 current gen and the Wii U (because the same company that did your best gen jrpg is releasing another, and it looks sweeeeet) . So I'll leave you to your xbox 360 JRPG opinion. I bought the 360 JUST for tales of vesperia. I got lost oddesy because of who helped created it. Also note, tales of Xillia in a few months and I also previously enjoyed Graces F. You can say 360 is the best in the world and that's cool, saying it has the best jrpg library is bending the truth a tad seeing as the 360 isn't very popular in Japan..... I'm also interested in this extensive JRPG library....Sadly for me, I tried your so called best gen jrpg, and it wasn't my cup of tea. I'll just take people's word that it was awesome.
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TurboTom wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at.

I felt that xbox had more to offer in that department too. I wasn't a huge fan of any console software this gen, but I thought that Tales of Vesperia was a pretty good game.

Also, do people really rate me down for having a different opinion?

Edited, Feb 21st 2013 12:00am by TurboTom


Dunno bro, but I rated you up... You're free to pick a console with your game types, but the 360 doesn't sell very well in Japan, What is the extensive JRPG library I keep seeing? I'm very interested lol, I can find something new to play~
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It'll be an interesting Holiday season this year. As far as FFXIV is concerned I would think SE would like to bring the game to PS4 and Xbox 720. Wii U would be cool due to the second screen gamepad but I don't think it has the tech specs to do it. I have one and know it's "laggy" on game that run smooth on PS3/360.
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#17 Feb 21 2013 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I hope Nintendo fixes that problem with that miracle patch lol. I thought mine was broken when it took forever to load everything!
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TurboTom wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at.

I felt that xbox had more to offer in that department too. I wasn't a huge fan of any console software this gen, but I thought that Tales of Vesperia was a pretty good game.

Also, do people really rate me down for having a different opinion?

Edited, Feb 21st 2013 12:00am by TurboTom


For the record nobody rated this post down, unless you're talking about a different post...
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#19 Feb 21 2013 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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Wint wrote:
TurboTom wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Yea, if xbox has your game types then that's obvious... Anyway, I'm a JRPG head so it's obvious where I'm at.

I felt that xbox had more to offer in that department too. I wasn't a huge fan of any console software this gen, but I thought that Tales of Vesperia was a pretty good game.

Also, do people really rate me down for having a different opinion?

Edited, Feb 21st 2013 12:00am by TurboTom


For the record nobody rated this post down, unless you're talking about a different post...

Was the post before that one, Wint. :D
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#20 Feb 21 2013 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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anyone watching the ps4 press conference? looks like there is a chance of ARR coming to ps4 after all


This was something I asked in my interview, and he said he's dedicated to bringing it to the PC and PS3 first. Once that is done though, who knows? They want everyone to be able to enjoy the game.
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#21 Feb 21 2013 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I was going to buy another Ps3 (sold mine after XIV never happened) but just going to wait on Ps4 now. It's supposed to be available end of this year so don't see the point in getting ps3 now.

It would be nice to have ARR on it. I kind of miss the console experience I had when I played XI back in the glory days.
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It's supposedly going to be cheapish. Two models priced somewhere around $450 and $550. I'd say ps3 would have been the leading console this gen if it hadn't had such a rough start at launch due to it's outragous price tag. Most consoles are going to be sold to parents purchasing a console for their kids as a holiday gift. They saw the $600 price tag and went with the cheaper 2nd choice.



so the high end ps4 is 50 dollars less tan what the high end ps3 was at launch and thats youre definition of "cheapish"?


I included the "ish" part for a reason. You also must consider the lower end version, not just the higher end. I paid $600 for my fatty ps3 when it was released. It was horribly expensive back when I was making $8 an hour. I have a job where I can afford it much easier now, but it's always nice to see a price tag closer to what people can afford instead of having to exclude many of your prospective buyers because you make the price tag too high.


Im sorry but if someone couldnt afford a 599 console making one thats 549 isnt gonna make their life any easier.. As for the low end version even at 499 for the PS3 ppl that that was too expensive especially give than xbox was what 300?.. same with PS4 if its 450 for the low end version ppl who dont have that kinda money will most likely get wii u instead which even their high end version is cheaper than sony's low end ps4.

Lastly the PS3 came out in 2006, the US economy back then was a helluva lot better than it is now.. so if ppl couldnt/didnt wanna or didnt have the money to spend on a 600 dollar console in 2006 they sure as **** dont have the money to spend on a 550 dollar console now.

ESPECIALLY when you can get a smartphone or a PC that has just a sgodo graphics and can do just about if not everything the PS4 can do for only 200-300 bucks

So although Sony PS4 price isnt confirmed yet theyd be stupid to go for anything higher than 399 (and even then tahst being nice 299 would be a lot better for their sales chances)
#23 Feb 21 2013 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
I know it's time for a new console, but I feel the ps3 and 360 still have lots to offer. At some point, gameplay needs to make a comeback and they need to back off on graphics and useless features no one uses. The wii in my opinion had the best rpg in the last 10 years with xenoblade, with good graphics for the wii, but inferior to the hd consoles. They concentrated on story and gameplay...that's what drew me in.

The budgets on games are getting out of hand, maybe they need to work on fun factor rather then special effects.
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The news this morning that existing PSN purchases won't transfer to the PS4 has me out. It was all so good until they said that. I'm not buying that **** all over again.
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#25 Feb 21 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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I don't really understand why people buy consoles at release unless they have loads of expendable cash and no other hobbies. I just bought a PS3 for $200 USD after Thanksgiving (a bundle unavailable now AFAIK, with 4 games, but other options are cheapish too), and, between PlayStation Plus and the loads of cheap or used games available online, I won't run out of things to play in a very long time . That said, before the PS3 I was exclusively PC-gaming for several years (when I wasn't playing on the Wii with my son), so I guess I wasn't really jonesin' for a modern gaming fix. But I really have no intention of getting any new consoles on release this time. I simply can't abide paying $60 for a game.

Regarding FFXIV, down the road the PS4 will have video-based streaming of some PS3 titles? That's always an easy-to-implement option. TBH, I think streaming is gonna be the future of MMOs (replace between client latencies with client-server latency, which I think fits MMOs better), so I'd be curious as to how they'd implement that.
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Again both FFXIV and the ps4 need to be successful in order for it to be on the PS4. If FFXIV is a flop it will never be on the PS4 obviously... Also if the PS4 is a flop it wont go either... I think at this point it is a wait and see. FFXIV has a big hill to climb. I say it is looking very good though...

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