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#27 Feb 25 2013 at 1:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think the key isn't so much that FFXIV nails the MMO features, they're all more or less the same. What they need to nail is the blending of MMO with Final Fantasy. If they get that right, they'll get the audience they want, naysayers be damned.
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#28 Feb 25 2013 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Wrong thread Smiley: mad


Edited, Feb 25th 2013 4:38pm by GDLYL
#29 Feb 25 2013 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Poubelle wrote:
im not a troll. I ask the tough questions


and your question was "I think ARR will fail."?

It does not look like a question to me.


I tried 1.0, i did not like it. was so excited before launch and was so disappointed and hate lots of elements in the game from user interface to the game play.
There were stuff that I like such as the Disciple of Hands, etc.

I didn't know about ARR until couple months ago, I was just told by friends SE was going to remake FFXIV from the ground up.
I serached more and found they really have the commitment the make this one of the best MMOs, and I will give them and myself a chance on this game again. I might not like it, but it's too early to tell a game will fail when it's still in closed beta, as many stuff in the game could still change.

And how do you determine if a game is a success or not anyway?
When they are popular?? When lots of players bought it? When they win awards?

slightly off topic, I played NBA 2K13 a month ago, popular? i think so, it was "executive produced by Jay-Z"
I played it for a week, and I went back to NBA 2K11.
They release the games with lots of bugs and never try to fix it after release, the post game media conference and the NBA draft in game looks 95% the same as NBA 2K11. My player mode has this bug that you wont' be able to change the name of your player. They never find out where the problem is, they just focus on adding more elements into the game and think their fans like what they had already.
oh, I forgot to mention my friend told me it was a great game, I thought it was too until I tried it myself.

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#30 Feb 25 2013 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
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At this point can we just agree that Poubelle is a troll?

All he does is make threads designed to bait people into arguing with him... that's what a troll does.


After a brief start here with this forum -- even I can see this. Obvious troll is obvious.
#31 Feb 25 2013 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh NOW everybody realizes what a worthless user this guy is.

Say what you will about me. I think ARR will fail, too, but at least I don't roll in here like an ******* and pretend I'm "asking the tough questions." Smiley: lol
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

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Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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slightly off topic, I played NBA 2K13 a month ago, popular? i think so, it was "executive produced by Jay-Z"
I played it for a week, and I went back to NBA 2K11.
They release the games with lots of bugs and never try to fix it after release, the post game media conference and the NBA draft in game looks 95% the same as NBA 2K11. My player mode has this bug that you wont' be able to change the name of your player. They never find out where the problem is, they just focus on adding more elements into the game and think their fans like what they had already.
oh, I forgot to mention my friend told me it was a great game, I thought it was too until I tried it myself.


If I could take the "sim to next key game" from 12(and perhaps 13) and put it in 11's My Player I'd love that. An option to skip the draft and just pick a team would be sweet as well.
#33Poubelle, Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 4:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I wouldn't say I'm 'worthless'. I'm starting discussions on an otherwise slow forum. you just got offended because I made some blunt remarks at you. if you're still whimpering over an argument that occurred weeks ago, you're really too fragile to be on the internet.
#34 Feb 25 2013 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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You're still conflating the fact that I notice what a tool you are with the idea that I see you as some kind of equal.

I would agree that you have worth, as a sort of village idiot. Unfortunately, that worth is only realized when you are ridiculed. Ergo, though it may seem paradoxical, you are absolutely worthless.

Good job! Smiley: grin
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Hyrist wrote:
Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#35 Feb 25 2013 at 4:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kachi wrote:
Oh NOW everybody realizes what a worthless user this guy is.

Say what you will about me. I think ARR will fail, too, but at least I don't roll in here like an @#%^ and pretend I'm "asking the tough questions." Smiley: lol


I wouldn't say I'm 'worthless'. I'm starting discussions on an otherwise slow forum. you just got offended because I made some blunt remarks at you. if you're still whimpering over an argument that occurred weeks ago, you're really too fragile to be on the internet.

this forum will probably stay dead though (despite my thought provoking topics) because of the archaic rating system, and having to pay a subscription to use custom avatars and post images. when you can do that anywhere else on the internet for free.

so most of the people who stick around are people like lolgaxe with 35k posts who stay/pay because they feel important here

Edited, Feb 25th 2013 5:09pm by Poubelle


"Thought provoking comments" is a bit of a stretch dude. Your sense of self worth amazes me. Why not go make your own "I think FF XIV will fail" forum, then you and all the other haters can post all the images you want for free. You might even be popular.,and btw, You consistently prove that the "archaic rating system" is still working as intended.
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so most of the people who stick around are people like lolgaxe with 35k posts who stay/pay because they feel important here


I keep coming back to this site because I genuinely like ZAM's FFXI community, a good share of the people are awesome.

I come to the FFXIV forum to check up on the status and current gossip about "A Realm Reborn", and hear people's opinions about the changes to 1.0 (since I stopped playing 1.0 a while back).

As for Lolgaxe, He used to be an annoying mole on our faces, but He wasn't cancerous and we were all doing whatever we could to make it in Hollywood so despite all those tables we were busting to make ends meet, we never found ourselves in a position where we had both the time and money to remove him. The end result is that when we all became supermodels, the public recognized us by the Lolgaxe on our faces and now we wear Him as a sort of beauty mark, so you know what? He should feel important.
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#37 Feb 25 2013 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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Hyrist wrote:
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I don't know why you're predicting this based on Alpha videos and without hands on with the game in it's current state.

People wonder why SE has an NDA in place Smiley: rolleyes



I'm still wondering, Wint. Good games in the rough don't need the hide, they need good feedback. And a game that's improving doesn't need isolation, it needs exposure.


The reason for NDAs is mainly because if a feature exists in Beta, people will get ****** off if it's not in release. Many things change up to and after release day even for non-MMO's. The NDA keeps people from reviewing an unfinished product and minimizing the trolling. However, with SE there will always be trolls... Oh look, it's a french trash bin...
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#38 Feb 25 2013 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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It just seems like a mash up of generic MMORPG elements. the combat also seems pretty boring.


Well, yeah, all of us already know this. Just, please, do try to act surprised six months after release, for Yoshida's sake, darling.
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#39Ostia, Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 7:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jesus you guys are harsh Smiley: laugh Sure he is trolling and biting but damm Smiley: glare I tho you guys where all cool and calm :(
#40 Feb 25 2013 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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I try to be a little bit nicer to everyone than they probably deserve. And wherein Poubelle is concerned, I probably still do that.
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Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#41 Feb 25 2013 at 8:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Obvious troll is obvious.


I can't remember when I put Poubelle on Ignore. May have been during the lead-up to and during 1.0? Honestly cannot remember.
Only problem I have now is everyone quoting him.
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#42 Feb 25 2013 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Ten years ago, I was a beta tester for EVE Online, which had an NDA in place. So, no, I don't think that NDAs are used by companies to hide the flaws in games under development.
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IP's are very close, I'll turn it over to Kaolian to deal with.


Oh please be true.
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#44 Feb 25 2013 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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Jesus you guys are harsh Smiley: laugh Sure he is trolling and biting but damm Smiley: glare I tho you guys where all cool and calm :(


You strike me as familiar....

Curious question. Do you know Hyrist's last name?
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Hyrist wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Jesus you guys are harsh Smiley: laugh Sure he is trolling and biting but damm Smiley: glare I tho you guys where all cool and calm :(


You strike me as familiar....

Curious question. Do you know Hyrist's last name?


Is this some sort of trick question ?? I am really bad at those :( :(

Btw: Googling hyrist brings a lot of material from FFXI, is that you ?
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#46 Feb 26 2013 at 1:03 AM Rating: Good
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Hyrist wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Jesus you guys are harsh Smiley: laugh Sure he is trolling and biting but damm Smiley: glare I tho you guys where all cool and calm :(


You strike me as familiar....

Curious question. Do you know Hyrist's last name?


Is this some sort of trick question ?? I am really bad at those :( :(

Btw: Googling hyrist brings a lot of material from FFXI, is that you ?


I assume he means Hyrists' surname in XIV
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#47 Feb 26 2013 at 1:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
All he does is make threads designed to bait people into arguing with him... that's what a troll does.
Not a good one.
They can't all be grandmasters. I mean, where else will young billy goats level up?

Poubelle wrote:
im not a troll. I ask the tough questions

Am I the only one who read that in Cartman's voice?
#49 Feb 26 2013 at 1:35 AM Rating: Good
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Funny cause all my old guild mates who hate 1.0 with a passion love 2.0....
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#50 Feb 26 2013 at 2:30 AM Rating: Default
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^^ The game is not out yet, so i assume they love what the perception of what 2.0 might be ?
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Ostia wrote:


Is this some sort of trick question ?? I am really bad at those :( :(

Btw: Googling hyrist brings a lot of material from FFXI, is that you ?


Yep! Most Hyrist content in FFXI is me. I don't believe anyone replicated the name. I tended to be pretty active in the media community so my name pops up now and again.

But you're not the only one with the name Ostia. I could have swore I saw you on Excalibur. Is Ostia a common name?
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