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#1 Feb 28 2013 at 4:26 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Basically, I just came to a realization.

Everyone in Beta is Legacy. Everyone talking about the Beta are Legacy. AKA people who thought XIV was already good enough to be paid for.

How I came to this realization is when I saw the admin (Thayos) breaking NDA and talking about how great FFXIV gameplay and UI is. I noticed...HEY. THIS GUY HAS A BUNCH OF LEVEL 50s!!! and these are pretty much the only people allowed to test!

I know I bought the CE $80 version and I didn't get in. my friends who bought the game & quit didn't get in the Beta either. only Legacy members who already thought the game is good.

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I know there are filter's so I don't have to look at these post after the orginal one, but is there a option where I can totally block a user and won't even see them making new posts every 2 minutes.

On a side note Poubelle,

You are 100% wrong in your statement. All though I'm not going to tell you why, I have my sources. And once again, NO I'M NOT A LEGACY MEMBER AND I'M NOT IN THE BETA.

For the love that all is holy, stop posting trash on the forumns picking on legacy members. If I recall a message was nuked because it was attacking you. Attacking legacy members is against the TOU
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#3 Feb 28 2013 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Discuss!


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#4Poubelle, Posted: Feb 28 2013 at 4:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) at the very least, 99% of the people beta testing are Legacy members.
#5 Feb 28 2013 at 4:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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[quote=Poubelle]I'm to stupid to realize that everything that comes out of my mouth is total ****************

Once again you are wrong in your numbers. Just because you didn't get selected for beta, go cry a river. Not everyone gets in there. Legacy members have every right to get in if they choose to do so. After all if it wasn't for them you wouldn't be here crying and throwing a fit....

Wait a sec... damm Legacy members (j/k)
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#6 Feb 28 2013 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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[quote=Poubelle]I'm to stupid to realize that everything that comes out of my mouth is total bullsh*t


Spit my coffee out, yup. Well done.
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#7 Feb 28 2013 at 6:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm confused, my thread gets nuked because of a possible character attack... this thread is still here and directly attacks an admin accusing them of breaking an NDA that if it were true, would cost the site it's close relations with SE... Hmmmmm
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#8 Feb 28 2013 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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I reported him for attacking another member. I never ask anything of the admins, but can you please ban this guy. Spreading falsehoods and half-truths on the board constantly only hurts people that come here for facts and discussion.
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#9 Feb 28 2013 at 7:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm the noobiest Legacy player out there. I only got to 42 THM and never really finished the storyline.

I paid SE money for six months because I knew they'd give me a bargain later. You're **** right it was a marketing tactic, but one for 2012 to get some much needed cash flow, not for 2013.

There are only around 15,000 Legacy members world wide. If they're doing beta right, they have at least three times that many people testing stuff.
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#10 Feb 28 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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He's being watched, Bethany1 is gone already and Kaolian isn't very happy with what Poubelle is doing either.

I don't ban people I interact with like him, that way they can't accuse me of making it a vendetta.
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#11 Feb 28 2013 at 8:32 PM Rating: Default
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well it DID seem like Thayos was breaking NDA, but thats just me. I mean he's clearly legacy.
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And I've said MANY times that saying you're in legacy is not breaking the NDA. Nothing else he's said indicated anything about playing the beta.

Edited, Feb 28th 2013 9:12pm by Wint
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#13 Feb 28 2013 at 8:37 PM Rating: Default
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well regardless my thread isn't even about that guy. but he is a good example of the TYPE of people who are (MOSTLY) playing beta right now.

I'm not trying to make him a villain, he's not a villain for enjoying something. I'm just saying most of the people playing beta & sharing their thoughts on it are dedicated FFXIV subscribers.
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Wint wrote:
And I've said MANY times that saying you're in legacy is breaking the NDA. Nothing else he's said indicated anything about playing the beta.


Is or is not? Because if it is you have a chicken and the egg problem here. There are many players who were/are known as legacy players before the NDA locked that knowledge down.
#15 Feb 28 2013 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Poubelle wrote:
well regardless my thread isn't even about that guy. but he is a good example of the TYPE of people who are (MOSTLY) playing beta right now.

I'm not trying to make him a villain, he's not a villain for enjoying something. I'm just saying most of the people playing beta & sharing their thoughts on it are dedicated FFXIV subscribers.


Who better to test and judge how SE has revamped the game made it better or worse than those that stuck it out through V1 than "Legacy" players?
Legacy members that played the game to 50 simply have a wider knowledge base to draw from to offer suggestions on where the game should go.

I reckon you think SE should have started with "Legacy" WoW players that have never played XIV to be the Beta's.

In so far as most Beta things there will be several stages involved likely and who is to say that at some point Beta will not be expanded to non-Legacy?

So Thayos said the Game Play and UI are awesome. Just view what SE has released to the public compared to V1 and I can draw that conclusion even though it's been nigh over a year since I played FFXIV. I'm quite excited by what I'm seeing as of now.


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Also it's a commercial game designed to create a long term revenue stream DOT DOT DOT

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Wint wrote:
And I've said MANY times that saying you're in legacy is breaking the NDA. Nothing else he's said indicated anything about playing the beta.


Is or is not? Because if it is you have a chicken and the egg problem here. There are many players who were/are known as legacy players before the NDA locked that knowledge down.


Oh for crying out loud, is not. My phone jacked things up :P I've fixed my original post.
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I know there are filter's so I don't have to look at these post after the orginal one, but is there a option where I can totally block a user and won't even see them making new posts every 2 minutes.

On a side note Poubelle,

You are 100% wrong in your statement. All though I'm not going to tell you why, I have my sources. And once again, NO I'M NOT A LEGACY MEMBER AND I'M NOT IN THE BETA.

For the love that all is holy, stop posting trash on the forumns picking on legacy members. If I recall a message was nuked because it was attacking you. Attacking legacy members is against the TOU


Yeah, even blocking him, his posts still show up. It's getting tiresome.
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Every time Poubelle posts, my red arrow gets some much-needed exercise.
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#20 Feb 28 2013 at 10:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Every time Poubelle posts, my red arrow gets some much-needed exercise.


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#21 Feb 28 2013 at 11:44 PM Rating: Good
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Well actualy no, everyone in Beta is not legacy since they also sent invites to Alpha testers. We can't know if anyone else got an invite since they cannot say they got into beta without breaking the NDA.

I would say that the Offical forums already show that not all the Legacy members thought the game was good, and that some realy don't like the direction the game is going now.

I'll be blunt, Legacy status is nothing more than a consolation prize. It's a goodwill gesture on the part of SE towards their customers who stuck with them through a bad spot. It makes good sense to then give them Beta access so that they can give feedback on how they think the game may have improved or gotten worse in their opinion.

#22 Mar 01 2013 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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to be fair, Thayos does tend to walk just up to the line :) but thats why we love him !

Man, I must have missed the post that got Bethany1 bant. bummer.
#23 Mar 01 2013 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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to be fair, Thayos does tend to walk just up to the line :) but thats why we love him !

Man, I must have missed the post that got Bethany1 bant. bummer.


Summary: She made a thread stating she wanted to make a list of Legacy players to single out to ban and never-ever-ever do anything with those cootie infested wegacy pwayers.

and Kaolain slammed the Banhammer down harder than a Krogan Warlord. The entire thread got nuked.
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Hyrist wrote:
Torrence wrote:
to be fair, Thayos does tend to walk just up to the line :) but thats why we love him !

Man, I must have missed the post that got Bethany1 bant. bummer.


Summary: She made a thread stating she wanted to make a list of Legacy players to single out to ban and never-ever-ever do anything with those cootie infested wegacy pwayers.

and Kaolain slammed the Banhammer down harder than a Krogan Warlord. The entire thread got nuked.


Let's not forget the conversation that Pou and her two socks were pretending to have within that thread...

Edited, Mar 1st 2013 9:52am by Onionthiefx
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Let's not forget the conversation
Better yet, let's.
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Hyrist wrote:

Summary: She made a thread stating she wanted to make a list of Legacy players to single out to ban and never-ever-ever do anything with those cootie infested wegacy pwayers.

and Kaolain slammed the Banhammer down harder than a Krogan Warlord. The entire thread got nuked.


That did it? Yea I was in that thread. When I finally got too drunk to post anymore we had hijacked it to actually be a halfway decent discussion :)

or so i thought !
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