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#1 Mar 07 2013 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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I was just wondering if anyone who played 1.0 on a laptop could give me their specs (RAM, CPU, GPU etc) and relative gameplay experience (Graphical Settings, FPS, slowdowns).

My girlfriend is in dire need of a new gaming rig if we have hopes of playing FFXIV together. Her decent laptop that she played FFXI and the FFXIV beta on had a major hardware catastrophe a year after she got it. Then the laptop a friend from FFXI sent her got stolen when her apartment got broken into (along with her TV, PS3, games and the earrings I bought her for her birthday >.>). She is currently using my 5-6 year old work laptop which scored under 250 in the 1.0 benchmark.

I was planning on building her a desktop similar to mine, but I don't believe she would have the room in her current living quarters. I've been looking at prebuilt laptops and just as I assumed they are grossly overpriced compared to the hardware contained within. Even on Newegg I've noticed how their "gaming" laptops seem to use very underpowered GPUs and sticks of 4gb and 2gb memory in a dual channel system <.<. I guess I may look into building a laptop, but it sounds like it would be more hassle than it's worth.

Thanks for any insight provided on this issue in advance.

Edited for failure to proofread.

Edited, Mar 7th 2013 6:49pm by DamienSScott

Edited, Mar 7th 2013 6:50pm by DamienSScott
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#2 Mar 07 2013 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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I'd go with ASUS republic of gamers. I got mine when the 500 series was in, so I have a GTX 560M with 3 GBs of VRAM. 16 GIGs of RAM, 18 inch screen, i7 cpu with turbo boost all for 1500 at the time.

If you were to get a macbook or Alienware with those specs.... You'd expect to to pay 2-3k. For 1400 they give you integrated gpus, with a smaller screen.

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G55VW-DH71-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B009AEW5HI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362700615&sr=8-2&keywords=asus+republic+of+gamers

That one is about a similar price you'd get for an entry level macbook or laptop with the worst specs possible.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MD101LL-13-3-Inch-VERSION/dp/B0074703CM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362700741&sr=1-1&keywords=macbook+pro

http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AM18XR2-7778BK-18-4-Inch-Anodized-Aluminum/dp/B00ANG3VY8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362703409&sr=1-3&keywords=alienware

Such bad specs! What's with that HD integrated and 650M? for 2k? Smiley: rolleyes

As for performance, I scored a 4500 on 720p maximum and around 3000 1080p maximum. I expect you'd get better performance if you got the 680m version. This laptop is on my piano for music and video purposes. When hurricane sandy hit and I went to stay by my parents after having lost power, I was grateful to have the laptop to play on lol. It was my first time using it. I was able to run 1080p with everything max except ambien occlusion, in windowed mode. (1.23)

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G75VW-DS73-3D-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B007RKGJD8/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362703574&sr=1-7&keywords=republic+of+gamers

If you have the cash. The 1200 one is the best bang for buck imo.

Edited, Mar 7th 2013 7:48pm by GDLYL
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Thanks for sharing that. Since I probably won't be able to afford a car when I graduate, I'm looking at getting a gaming laptop to replace the cheapass business Lenovo Thinkpad I have now.
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#4 Mar 07 2013 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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Oh no problem. This is the model I own.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UUS6MO/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G75VW-DS71-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B007Z92SKE/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

This would be the current one. The 200 dollar price bump is for the larger screen. It is QUITE noticeable. When I look at the smaller laptops they look so tiny now lol. The 15 inch one is really hard to beat spec/price.

I have to mention though, that the mouse pad is very sensitive. To the point that I find it annoying. I think it may just be me though. You can turn of the pad though and just use a usb mouse and you're ok! Oh and I would just unplug the battery and use it plugged in for longer sessions so you don't ruin your battery's lifespan. I wouldn't expect long playtime with this monster. You'll be lucky to get 2 hours running in turbo mode. Maybe one hour.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680M-SLI.76545.0.html

Use this to compare Gpus of various laptops you're interested in. That way when you get one you're not disappointed.

Edited, Mar 7th 2013 8:44pm by GDLYL
#5 Mar 07 2013 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I just got a laptop off CyberPowerPC. this is what I got. It ran the benchmark on maximum without changing any options and scored 3700. On high, it got to 5000. Honestly, I am happy with this. With how much I travel for family stuff, laptop is just a better option for me, and I can't expect to get desktop quality graphics off of a laptop without spending a lot more than this.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4978349

Got that for wife for 599 (reg 899) and scores 4700 on benchmark @ medium settings; that's all I can really say. The laptop is awesome at that price ;)
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#7 Mar 07 2013 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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WOW! Those are some nice deals! Even though I'm going through an Asus phase, I can't deny that Fangbook offers the power. Never heard of them. Are they a subsidiary of Alienware? They look very similar.

If Asus starts charging extra for it's name then I'll have to reconsider.
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You know, I don't know. A friend of mine recommended them to me after getting his desktop from them, and I was impressed by what I saw and how customizable their options are. I am pretty much in love with this thing.

Also, I ran the Benchmark again, started with graphics on max and used suggestions from this post (clicky!) and here were my results:

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FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:3/7/2013 11:12:53 PM
Score:5256
Average Framerate:42.163
Performance:Very High

-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : Mid: 1024 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Normal
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.120919-1813)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
8084.832MB
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000(VRAM 4095 MB) 9.17.0010.2849

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

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And to be honest, I barely noticed a difference in the graphics.

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 12:13am by Ryklin
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#9 Mar 07 2013 at 11:19 PM Rating: Good
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This engine is very optimized. I bookmarked that for future lol. I'm in agreement, just hitting maximum gets you slowdowns where you don't need. Some people just make monster computers and negate that issue though :D. I'm doing zero upgrades on my pc. It ran 1.0 on max it'll handle this just fine. Getting x2 680s this time around doesn't seem worth it.
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I've ordered a few Sager based laptops from Xoticpc. www.xoticpc.com / www.sagernotebook.com (xoticpc is a reseller that does some skinning mods). Sagers are amazing high-quality built machines. I've seen problems with some ASUS laptops as far as dealing with heat issues. I have a 4-year old Sager laptop with a NVidia GTX-M 280 and I can run the benchmark at 1080p on medium settings and score a playable framerate. I played 1.0 on it as well and it ran fine. It certainly isn't a desktop, but will provide a pretty good experience for a mobile machine.
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desmar wrote:
I've ordered a few Sager based laptops from Xoticpc. www.xoticpc.com / www.sagernotebook.com (xoticpc is a reseller that does some skinning mods). Sagers are amazing high-quality built machines. I've seen problems with some ASUS laptops as far as dealing with heat issues. I have a 4-year old Sager laptop with a NVidia GTX-M 280 and I can run the benchmark at 1080p on medium settings and score a playable framerate. I played 1.0 on it as well and it ran fine. It certainly isn't a desktop, but will provide a pretty good experience for a mobile machine.


desmar wrote:
I've ordered a few Sager based laptops from Xoticpc. www.xoticpc.com / www.sagernotebook.com (xoticpc is a reseller that does some skinning mods). Sagers are amazing high-quality built machines. I've seen problems with some ASUS laptops as far as dealing with heat issues. I have a 4-year old Sager laptop with a NVidia GTX-M 280 and I can run the benchmark at 1080p on medium settings and score a playable framerate. I played 1.0 on it as well and it ran fine. It certainly isn't a desktop, but will provide a pretty good experience for a mobile machine.


My wife's laptop CPU hits 75c and the GPU apparently hits 100-110c. The laptop gets hot. In relation my desktop hits 60 (35% load) and GPU hits 65 (99% load) when playing.

i7960 + 6870HD; for 2 years old; I can't think of anything to upgrade too lol
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#12 Mar 08 2013 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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The newer Asus has the fans facing the back. My lap is what I use hooked up to the logitech wireless keyboard mouse pad combo. I keep it on my 4th hdmi port for my TV and is on 24/7 (I treat it like a **** desk top) I can say I have no heat issues. I'm only familiar with Republic of Gamers though, the person above previously showed an Asus for 599. That, I have no experience with. The higher spec your laptop, the more heat it's going to produce. (Usually)
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Elionara wrote:
desmar wrote:
I've ordered a few Sager based laptops from Xoticpc. www.xoticpc.com / www.sagernotebook.com (xoticpc is a reseller that does some skinning mods). Sagers are amazing high-quality built machines. I've seen problems with some ASUS laptops as far as dealing with heat issues. I have a 4-year old Sager laptop with a NVidia GTX-M 280 and I can run the benchmark at 1080p on medium settings and score a playable framerate. I played 1.0 on it as well and it ran fine. It certainly isn't a desktop, but will provide a pretty good experience for a mobile machine.


My wife's laptop CPU hits 75c and the GPU apparently hits 100-110c. The laptop gets hot. In relation my desktop hits 60 (35% load) and GPU hits 65 (99% load) when playing.

i7960 + 6870HD; for 2 years old; I can't think of anything to upgrade too lol


You need better cooling then, I don't break 60 on mine, but it does start to sound like an airport when all the fans kick on high Smiley: laugh
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#14 Mar 08 2013 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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The gamming ASUS laptops witht he big screen have no heat problems. If you look at the back, they have 2 big fans that makes the laptop look like is going to take off at any moment. I love the look of the laptop but it is big and heavy, but it is a gamming laptop. If you get one, you will need to order a carrying bag from them since there are not many that will fit the 18" ASUS G series laptops.
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You know, I don't know. A friend of mine recommended them to me after getting his desktop from them, and I was impressed by what I saw and how customizable their options are. I am pretty much in love with this thing.

Also, I ran the Benchmark again, started with graphics on max and used suggestions from this post (clicky!) and here were my results:

Quote:
FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:3/7/2013 11:12:53 PM
Score:5256
Average Framerate:42.163
Performance:Very High

-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : Mid: 1024 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Normal
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.120919-1813)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
8084.832MB
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000(VRAM 4095 MB) 9.17.0010.2849

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com
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And to be honest, I barely noticed a difference in the graphics.

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 12:13am by Ryklin



Odd. I did this on my GF's laptop with all the settings cranked as low as possible and didn't anywhere near that.

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FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:3/8/2013 11:57:40 PM
Score:1274
Average Framerate:12.745
Performance:Low
-Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.

Screen Size: 1280x720
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Disabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Disabled
-Grass Quality : Low
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : Environmental
-Shadow Resolution : Low: 512 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Off
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : Low
-Anisotropic Filtering : Low
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Disabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Disabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display Own
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Low
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Disabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz
8102.758MB
Intel(R) HD Graphics Family(VRAM 1696 MB) 8.15.0010.2291

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

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He had that EPIC Intel HD 4000 though! Smiley: lol
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He had that EPIC Intel HD 4000 though! Smiley: lol


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FFXIV Score:1274 Smiley: oyvey 1280x720 Custom Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz Intel(R) HD Graphics Family

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FFXIV Score:5256 Smiley: eek 1920x1080 Custom Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000


Ivy Bridge is much better than expected over Sandy Bridge, I suppose. Not bad for a little guy. Smiley: wink
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Ah, didn't notice his was Ivy, makes sense.
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Haha thanks for all of the replies everyone, just got back from spending the weekend with said lady :o.

Everyone pretty much confirmed my thoughts/fears with the prices of your laptops >.<. Honestly I was hoping to get/build her something in the $600-800 range, but it looks like that won't be possible unless I build a desktop. I did some guesstimating and we might be able to squeeze a desk into her room of we move some stuff around. Then we just need to figure out of we can easily get an Ethernet cable in there and prevent animals from messing with it XD.

I just built my gaming rig at the new year for $1035.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/24/2013 5:28:42 PM
Score:6031
Average Framerate:48.796
Performance:Very High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Maximum

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
8152.473MB
AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series(VRAM 1753 MB) 8.17.0010.1172

I'm sure I can run a similar build for her but get a cheaper case, and a HDD instead of a SSD, and downgrade the GPU from a 7870 to a 7850 or something. She doesn't care about being able to run it on max settings or anything so I should be able to work out something in the next couple months.

Edit: Plus she will be using this 19inch 1440x900 Hannspree (Who? I kno rite?) monitor I bought for $20 off my friend's mom so she won't even be running the game anywhere near 1920x1080. (I'll still need to buy a new monitor and all the ASUS love has confirmed which I plan on buying. :D)

Edited, Mar 10th 2013 11:49am by DamienSScott
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