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#1 Mar 15 2013 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGITEK?
March 14, 2013
Greetings, seekers of knowledge.
Fernehalwes here, and for this post I come to you with an actual scoop du jour!
While Project Manager M was diligently crafting away, I slipped over to the BG design section and snapped a few shots of what I’d bet my Meteor Survivor shirt to be...magitek armor!
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But what kind of area would house this many─ OH... ;)
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Now, while the map and armor are obviously still just mockups, word has it that Yoshi-P has already given the final OK on the designs, so now comes the polish.
But why wait for polish, when I can borrow the keys to the prototype and take a little test spin on the internal servers...
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♪Rollin' in my 2.0, with my mag-top down so my hair can blow.♪
♪The Miqo'te on standby, waving just to s─ Hey! Bad squirrel! Bad squirrel!
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Woot!
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#2 Mar 15 2013 at 6:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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That is an amazing post. Dropped a lot of teasers in a short post.
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*Can be heard from the distance as he runs towards the thread*

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

GIMMMMEE!! GIMME NOW!!

Totally rocking that in Dragoon AF for complete badass effect. I can just head-canon Lin leaping off the Armor to slam Jump on someone's poor head.
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Very nice! The Magitek armor is shaping up! Makes me want to break out FFVI! I hope they continue to add little things from previous FF titles and intertwine them with FFXIV's current setting. I'd love to see a job added later with the ability to "morph" like Terra from FFVI.
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I nostalgia hard for FF6 every time I see pictures of magitek stuff. Man that'll be fun.
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I hope to God they shoot lasers!!!
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I hope to God they shoot lasers...

...out of their sharks!
Or even better: Let them shoot sharks out of their lasers. Now how cool would that be! ^.^/

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The major question is whether they'll be summoned from a puff of smoke and hop about like WoW mounts while we're followed around by our cute WoW-style pets.

What I mean to say is that I know we all love FFVI, but context matters. If everyone could ride around on Bahamut's back, well, Bahamut would become significantly less awesome. Hopefully this isn't just some superficial addition to cash in on nostalgia; though I suppose that's really all SE has left these days -- and there's no denying that it clearly works for them.
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FatChocobro wrote:
I hope to God they shoot lasers!!!


Every fight would play out like this:

Enthusiastic Magitek Party Members: I'M CHARGING UP MY--
Disgruntled Party Leader: Yes, I know! I know already!

Smiley: lol
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The major question is whether they'll be summoned from a puff of smoke and hop about like WoW mounts while we're followed around by our cute WoW-style pets.

What I mean to say is that I know we all love FFVI, but context matters. If everyone could ride around on Bahamut's back, well, Bahamut would become significantly less awesome. Hopefully this isn't just some superficial addition to cash in on nostalgia; though I suppose that's really all SE has left these days -- and there's no denying that it clearly works for them.




It was confirmed a while a go that these would be primarily mounts, but would also take part in a couple missions designed around them. Yoshida also went on to say that he'd be looking into further uses in the future. He's well aware that people want the whole "I get to blast stuff with Magitek Armor!" request.

Personally, I hope it becomes a PvP element.

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I hope to god it is a mount that is only obtainable by clearing the magitek factory in some sort of hardmode. Not just here welcome to 2.0 have a magitek armor and run around
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Looks nice!

Maybe it will be a good idea to tie it in with a specific class like summoner and primals.
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From the pictures, they seem to be in a docking bay of sorts. I certainly hope there are enemies that mount these things, because that would be a FUN fight. Personally, I'd like to see this in a raid or instance - like maybe at the end when you're escaping said facility and need to mow down that last pesky group of enemies. That would be way cool.
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This is a nice little addition, that's for sure.
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That looks pretty sweet, though I see the wings sticking out and think they better not be pulling some Evangelion **** with these.

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The major question is whether they'll be summoned from a puff of smoke and hop about like WoW mounts while we're followed around by our cute WoW-style pets.

What I mean to say is that I know we all love FFVI, but context matters. If everyone could ride around on Bahamut's back, well, Bahamut would become significantly less awesome. Hopefully this isn't just some superficial addition to cash in on nostalgia; though I suppose that's really all SE has left these days -- and there's no denying that it clearly works for them.


You successfully tempered my enthusiasm. However, I will say that as far as run-of-the-mill mounts go, they could do worse.
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That looks pretty sweet, though I see the wings sticking out and think they better not be pulling some Evangelion sh*t with these.


Hmmm... not sure if I get what you mean by saying Evangelion as I've actually never seen it... but I'm going to assume those robots flew and that won't be the case here, lol.

The design of the armor is 100% based off of Amano's artwork from FF6: http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/art/ff1-ff6-terra_magitek2.jpg And if the gears from FF6 didn't fly, I think it's safe to assume the same here.

Though, I do hope we get a black chocobo that we can soar around in one day!





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Kachi wrote:
That looks pretty sweet, though I see the wings sticking out and think they better not be pulling some Evangelion sh*t with these.


Hmmm... not sure if I get what you mean by saying Evangelion as I've actually never seen it... but I'm going to assume those robots flew and that won't be the case here, lol.

The design of the armor is 100% based off of Amano's artwork from FF6: http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/art/ff1-ff6-terra_magitek2.jpg And if the gears from FF6 didn't fly, I think it's safe to assume the same here.

Though, I do hope we get a black chocobo that we can soar around in one day!


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Why? :D

Edit: oh... I said gears... haha...

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You called Giant robots and magitek armor Gears XD!
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Yeah, I really like that the design is based off of Amano's Magitek Armor, seeing as while I don't like his humans, he can draw some pretty good equipment and the like :P
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Hmmm... not sure if I get what you mean by saying Evangelion as I've actually never seen it... but I'm going to assume those robots flew and that won't be the case here, lol.


They did not fly:

They were actually an alien creature that had been armored in a way that they looked like a mecha.
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FatChocobro wrote:
I hope to God they shoot lasers!!!


Every fight would play out like this:

Enthusiastic Magitek Party Members: I'M CHARGING UP MY--
Disgruntled Party Leader: Yes, I know! I know already!

Smiley: lol


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Well DUH. Everyone knows that you have to shout the name of your attack just before you execute it. That's how you achieve maximum levels of badass.
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I thought my "I smite thee with my flaming fists of fury" in party chat were great back in the day :P
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My favorite, which I'll never forget, was this MNK named Soundwave. Met him in Yuhtunga, and he had a Boost macro (which he activated every 15 seconds without fail) that said PUMP UP THE VOLUME. It was hilariously obnoxious.
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My favorite, which I'll never forget, was this MNK named Soundwave. Met him in Yuhtunga, and he had a Boost macro (which he activated every 15 seconds without fail) that said PUMP UP THE VOLUME. It was hilariously obnoxious.


LOL

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All this talk about Magitek is getting me excited. And I'm glad it's based off of Amano's concept/drawings.

If all of the art/graphics in game were though his whispy dream-like style, it would be awesome.

In any case I'd love to see a Midgard/Narshe type area; I'd probably just set my homepoint there and that would be my basecamp.

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As far as PT announcements were concerned, I just had the boring <Provoke> ---> <t> Macros. I didn't want to p*off any of the JPs I was grouping with. There were a lot of clever NA and JP macros though with smileys and unique phrases. I guess I was all business. lol.
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My favorite, which I'll never forget, was this MNK named Soundwave. Met him in Yuhtunga, and he had a Boost macro (which he activated every 15 seconds without fail) that said PUMP UP THE VOLUME. It was hilariously obnoxious.


Oh man, I lol'd for a good 2-3 minutes when I read this. It's so true. We all had one in our party at some point in XI.
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My WAR's provoke macro on my teeny tiny Tarutaru main is "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size?!"


Wait a minute... on which servers did you play? I think you may have partied with my now-spouse and I many years ago! o_o
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My WAR's provoke macro on my teeny tiny Tarutaru main is "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size?!"


Wait a minute... on which servers did you play? I think you may have partied with my now-spouse and I many years ago! o_o


While that does sound familiar, I have a feeling that more than 1 Taru had that or something similar as their Provoke macro.
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My WAR's provoke macro on my teeny tiny Tarutaru main is "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size?!"


Wait a minute... on which servers did you play? I think you may have partied with my now-spouse and I many years ago! o_o


Seraph and then Bismarck.
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Kachi wrote:
My favorite, which I'll never forget, was this MNK named Soundwave. Met him in Yuhtunga, and he had a Boost macro (which he activated every 15 seconds without fail) that said PUMP UP THE VOLUME. It was hilariously obnoxious.


Oh man, I lol'd for a good 2-3 minutes when I read this. It's so true. We all had one in our party at some point in XI.


If you thought that was funny, you should check out this. I had nearly forgotten all about it.
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If you thought that was funny, you should check out this. I had nearly forgotten all about it.

Wow. That was entertaining. And ridiculously long. Monks ftw!

I had some silly ones when I was first getting the hang of macros and figuring out all the neat crap you could do. Probably annoyed some people along the way. Then I transitioned into simpler ones with less clutter. Lots of /echo instead of spamming chat.
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I knew a ninja who put this in his shadows macro. I always wanted to steal it

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Kachi wrote:
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Kachi wrote:
My favorite, which I'll never forget, was this MNK named Soundwave. Met him in Yuhtunga, and he had a Boost macro (which he activated every 15 seconds without fail) that said PUMP UP THE VOLUME. It was hilariously obnoxious.


Oh man, I lol'd for a good 2-3 minutes when I read this. It's so true. We all had one in our party at some point in XI.


If you thought that was funny, you should check out this. I had nearly forgotten all about it.


That....that was amazing.
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Wait a minute... on which servers did you play? I think you may have partied with my now-spouse and I many years ago! o_o


Seraph and then Bismarck.


Must have been some other Taru... we were on Lakshmi, Bahamut, and Pandemonium. :c
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Yeah, I really like that the design is based off of Amano's Magitek Armor, seeing as while I don't like his humans, he can draw some pretty good equipment and the like :P


That's plain poppycock.

You must have never seen his artwork of shadow.
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Yeah, I really like that the design is based off of Amano's Magitek Armor, seeing as while I don't like his humans, he can draw some pretty good equipment and the like :P


That's plain poppycock.

You must have never seen his artwork of shadow.


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Yeah, I really like that the design is based off of Amano's Magitek Armor, seeing as while I don't like his humans, he can draw some pretty good equipment and the like :P


That's plain poppycock.

You must have never seen his artwork of shadow.


I think that Shadow is one of the few that I like...his style just doesn't click with me, then again, when turned into 3D models, I prefer Amano to Nomura...
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How does Magitek fit into Eorzea?

I was hoping that, with ARR, Eorzea and Hydaelyn would develop their own distinct feel. It seems like they're instead going for a random *********** of nostalgia-bait to desperately claw back some of the disgruntled Final Fantasy fanboys.
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How does Magitek fit into Eorzea?

I was hoping that, with ARR, Eorzea and Hydaelyn would develop their own distinct feel. It seems like they're instead going for a random cluster@#%^ of nostalgia-bait to desperately claw back some of the disgruntled Final Fantasy fanboys.


I think that's pretty much Yoshida's stated goal of 2.0, though put more eloquently. As one would expect, SE is grabbing at everything they can to make sure the game sticks the second time around.*

*except things from FFXI, their most financially successful -- and only other online -- Final Fantasy title, for some reason. They seem to be wary of things from that game.
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I was strongly under the impression that they always intended to implement Magitek down the line, but that it would initially be a Garlean technology.
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How does Magitek fit into Eorzea?

I was hoping that, with ARR, Eorzea and Hydaelyn would develop their own distinct feel. It seems like they're instead going for a random cluster@#%^ of nostalgia-bait to desperately claw back some of the disgruntled Final Fantasy fanboys.


I think that's pretty much Yoshida's stated goal of 2.0, though put more eloquently. As one would expect, SE is grabbing at everything they can to make sure the game sticks the second time around.*

*except things from FFXI, their most financially successful -- and only other online -- Final Fantasy title, for some reason. They seem to be wary of things from that game.


Oh come on, what about the Races of XIV? Might as well call Miq'ote Mithra and Roegadyn Galka.
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How does Magitek fit into Eorzea?

I was hoping that, with ARR, Eorzea and Hydaelyn would develop their own distinct feel. It seems like they're instead going for a random cluster@#%^ of nostalgia-bait to desperately claw back some of the disgruntled Final Fantasy fanboys.


I think that's pretty much Yoshida's stated goal of 2.0, though put more eloquently. As one would expect, SE is grabbing at everything they can to make sure the game sticks the second time around.*

*except things from FFXI, their most financially successful -- and only other online -- Final Fantasy title, for some reason. They seem to be wary of things from that game.


Oh come on, what about the Races of XIV? Might as well call Miq'ote Mithra and Roegadyn Galka.


That is just something left from Tanaka though, it would just be speculating but I wouldn't be surprised if Yoshi would have used other races if he had made the game completely from scratch.
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I was strongly under the impression that they always intended to implement Magitek down the line, but that it would initially be a Garlean technology.


This was how I saw it.

The city-states of Eorzea are something of an analogue to the Greek city states of old. Ithaca, Athens, Sparta etc.... The Garlean Empire is something of a "Persian Empire under Xerxes" analogue. Larger, more technologically advanced (relatively speaking) and ever a looming shadow over the lives and livelihoods of those individuals living in the main city states.

I see the Magitek stuff as "pandering" just as much as I see Chocobos and Moogles as "pandering." Which is to say, it's something that's uniquely Final Fantasy that gives the game distinction compared to other games.

TOR has the "hyper advanced yet not really" sort of tech thing going for them.
WoW has the "super dangerous but crazily awesome" Gobby tech and the "unnecessarily complicated but still sometimes useful" Gnome tech.
FF has the "let's merge magic and machine and conquer the world because f*ck yeah!" thing going on.

Yes, it's an echo of FF6, but the magitek and what it meant/symbolized is so strong and deep that really, I'm sad it took this long to revisit it. The themes practically write the story for us; the people of Grid, Ul and LL generally live in harmony with the world around them. They shape it, but they're also shaped by it, so there is symbiosis. This is best seen from 1.0 with the Gridanians and their elementals in the Twelveswood. The Conjurer's of Gridania, specifically the Hearer's, do what they can to assist the elementals and ensure harmony is maintained for all things in the forest.

Ul'dah and LL, while not as clear-cut (hah!) as the forest folk, still have a theme of "we live in this part of the world, and it's a part of us as much as we are a part of it" that underlies everything they do. It's not as obvious as it is with Grid, but it's clear the people's of Ul and LL respect the land and seek to sustain it as much as it sustains them.

But then you have the Garlean Empire. They don't "coexist" with anything. They take the primal forces of nature and manipulate them into tools of power to be used on their enemies. There is no symbiosis, no equal partnership. The empire takes and takes because ***** everything else, especially nature and the natural way of things. The only *true* way for the empire is the Empire way.

And really...it makes sense. Pretty much every single FF has had themes of respecting the world you live in, in some form or another. From the very obvious "Please not to be ******** with the primal forces of life thank you" found in FF1, to the world destruction in 6, to the juxtaposition of Firion and co. compared to Mateus (backwater freedom fighters, fighting for their freedom and the simple life, against the might of a seemingly unstoppable Emperor and his military machine)....well, let's just say this; to call SE out on "re-hashing" something or "nostalgia" at this point in time is to admit that one is quite possibly the latest arrival to the party.
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#46 Mar 17 2013 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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That is just something left from Tanaka though, it would just be speculating but I wouldn't be surprised if Yoshi would have used other races if he had made the game completely from scratch.


If Yoshida had made the game from scratch, we would have had six races instead of five, and all of them would have been female-only.
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#47 Mar 17 2013 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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Oh my, I know it's too much to expect them to be used it battles. It's nice that we have access to them at all! Yoshi sure knows how to please.Smiley: grin
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I'd love to see them usable in battle. Could even just be a "travel battle" situation, which would alleviate the boredom of traveling long distances. Give them a limited battery power and nuke the XP you earn, presto.
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Oh come on, what about the Races of XIV? Might as well call Miq'ote Mithra and Roegadyn Galka.

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