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#1 Mar 21 2013 at 5:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Coming in early April, this new smartphone application will allow players to generate one-time passwords. We highly recommend it to our users as a quick and easy way to enhance the security of your Square Enix account with your iOS or Android device.

Further details will be announced at a later date.


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I assume this will be SE account based..there for also work with FFXI. If so then WOOT!
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Awesome. This will be great for when I forget my token at home and need to access my account at work.
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I hope they make it for free. I was surprised to be honest that they still didn't have one. i use the same for battle.net for diablo 3 and that one is free.
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I hope they make it for free. I was surprised to be honest that they still didn't have one. i use the same for battle.net for diablo 3 and that one is free.


Yea they are a little late to the game - I've had my battle.net one on Android since before SE even came out with their physical token. Both Trion and Blizzard have a token app in addition to mobile apps with other services, as well. Hopefully SE won't stop at just the authenticator.

It's good news for sure!
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Such a great idea. I've been holding my token on my keys. Thanks to that though, I've been overly cautious of my keys now. Hope it doesn't encourage me to be careless.
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Such a great idea. I've been holding my token on my keys. Thanks to that though, I've been overly cautious of my keys now. Hope it doesn't encourage me to be careless.


Well, are you more careless with your cell phone than your keys?
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Now you should be extra carefull about your phone!! Smiley: lol
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I hope they make it for free.


Nah, it'll be $10 and it'll give your characters an incredibly useful, unprecedented level of inventory upgrades.* Smiley: rolleyes

*FFXI reference, for anyone who remembers those shady dealings years ago.
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#11 Mar 21 2013 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
Better late than never on this! Should make playing while traveling easier too.
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FINALLY! Been worried about my batteries dying and having to go on hold for 3 hours with SE Customer "Service".
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But Will people who already have a physical token be able to use either, or will we have to unlink the token in order to use this app? Smiley: dubious
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But Will people who already have a physical token be able to use either, or will we have to unlink the token in order to use this app? Smiley: dubious


I'm sure that will be part of the "details to come".
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Teravibe wrote:
I hope they make it for free.


Nah, it'll be $10 and it'll give your characters an incredibly useful, unprecedented level of inventory upgrades.* Smiley: rolleyes

*FFXI reference, for anyone who remembers those shady dealings years ago.


Shady dealing indeed.

seems like a precursor for their current marketing strategies (such as FFXIII-2, where you have to pay extra on top of your $60 to see the ending of the game)

the $10 storage was pretty much mandatory too I guess. I'm sure most people didn't even want a token.
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Anyone who knows someone who got hacked wanted a token.

Our paladin tank was hacked right in the middle of Gulool Ja Ja. Smiley: frown Took him three months to get his account back.
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It does add a huge layer of protection that is why i have it in my battle.net account. But seriously if you are careful with your website visits and you don't answer to weird emails you will still be safe. I run my wow account for years just fine without getting a token. My 3 eve online accounts run without a token and are fine (since CCP hasn't released a token yet).
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Teravibe wrote:
It does add a huge layer of protection that is why i have it in my battle.net account. But seriously if you are careful with your website visits and you don't answer to weird emails you will still be safe. I run my wow account for years just fine without getting a token. My 3 eve online accounts run without a token and are fine (since CCP hasn't released a token yet).


This is not %100 true. My WoW account that I hadn't used in over 5 years got hacked. I never clicked scam emails or visited suspicious sites. Some people just know how to write programs that can hack accounts. The cool thing was the Blizzard sent me a free authenticator so it wouldn't happen again.
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You have a WoW account?
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#20Poubelle, Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 7:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've also been hacked and I don't visit sketchy websites or anything. Had to watch as some Chinese guy sold off all my items lol.
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Torrence wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Such a great idea. I've been holding my token on my keys. Thanks to that though, I've been overly cautious of my keys now. Hope it doesn't encourage me to be careless.


Well, are you more careless with your cell phone than your keys?


I've never broken or lost a phone. That removes my fear of being locked out of the game due to a lost token. It might make me be more careless with my keys though, theoretically. Though I've also never lost my keys, I've been extra cautious since i placed the security token on it.
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When I was in high school I dropped my keys into a sewer grate by accident.

This was a week after my father told me to stop destroying the steering column by having five pounds of keychains on my keys.

I didn't say anything and he didn't either, as he paid the $75 locksmith fee because we couldn't find the spare set. The car died a month later for reasons unrelated to the steering column.

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Wint wrote:
You have a WoW account?


Well, Battle.net account now. Many years ago I played WoW with a buddy. I think I had one character to level 47 or so. He played on a PVP server and I just lost interest after getting killed so many times for just trying to do quests.

My dad is in his early 60s and plays WoW. He constantly asks me when I'm going to play.

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It would be awesome if, instead of choosing between the digital and physical, if you could use one of each. I'd love to be able to lock my keychain autheticator in my safe, and then use the phone one. Unfortunately, with the nature of security, it'll probably be one or the other.
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KaneKitty wrote:
Teravibe wrote:
I hope they make it for free.


Nah, it'll be $10 and it'll give your characters an incredibly useful, unprecedented level of inventory upgrades.* Smiley: rolleyes

*FFXI reference, for anyone who remembers those shady dealings years ago.



I remember and I had to buy one. In fact, I was just looking at the package they sent it to me in, just a few days ago. Funny. I never hooked them up to my account. I figured if my account gets hacked, that's the day ill stop playing my Final Fantasy game. However, I would be heart broken, to say the least. ; ;
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You have a WoW account?


My dad is in his early 60s and plays WoW. He constantly asks me when I'm going to play.

Edited, Mar 21st 2013 11:39pm by Geffe


This is also the kind of thing that makes me say you can't really apply WoW to other games.

It just defies logic. I mean obviously people of all ages play all MMOs, but with WoW it's not even a rare occurence. You have whole families who still to this day all play WoW together, even like grandchildren and grandparents. sounds kind of awesome. no idea how Blizzard does it, never got into it that much.

I mean I know it has tons of content, playable on any PC, and everything is very streamlined, but still

(sorry ,unrelated to the topic, lol)

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finally. F-I-N-A-L-L-Y. how long did this take? to **** long.
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Geffe wrote:
Teravibe wrote:
It does add a huge layer of protection that is why i have it in my battle.net account. But seriously if you are careful with your website visits and you don't answer to weird emails you will still be safe. I run my wow account for years just fine without getting a token. My 3 eve online accounts run without a token and are fine (since CCP hasn't released a token yet).


This is not %100 true. My WoW account that I hadn't used in over 5 years got hacked. I never clicked scam emails or visited suspicious sites. Some people just know how to write programs that can hack accounts. The cool thing was the Blizzard sent me a free authenticator so it wouldn't happen again.



As far as i know blizzard's battle.net got hacked once and passwords, security questions were taken. Besides that i doubt someone wrote a program that was able to blindly find username and password and hack your account just like that. I am not saying they can't but if i was to guess i would still say you clicked the wrong link in the wrong site.

Of course at this point we can only speculate what happen. I hope i don't get hacked after this convo haha! ^^


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desmar wrote:
It would be awesome if, instead of choosing between the digital and physical, if you could use one of each. I'd love to be able to lock my keychain autheticator in my safe, and then use the phone one. Unfortunately, with the nature of security, it'll probably be one or the other.


Oh I don't know, it might work. We'll have to see how they implement it.
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Wint wrote:
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It would be awesome if, instead of choosing between the digital and physical, if you could use one of each. I'd love to be able to lock my keychain autheticator in my safe, and then use the phone one. Unfortunately, with the nature of security, it'll probably be one or the other.


Oh I don't know, it might work. We'll have to see how they implement it.


I'm thinking if you enter in the secure pass code from the back of the key fob, you could possibly sync them up. I mean, that's how we activated the tokens to begin with.
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It just defies logic. I mean obviously people of all ages play all MMOs, but with WoW it's not even a rare occurence. You have whole families who still to this day all play WoW together, even like grandchildren and grandparents. sounds kind of awesome. no idea how Blizzard does it, never got into it that much.

I mean I know it has tons of content, playable on any PC, and everything is very streamlined, but still

(sorry ,unrelated to the topic, lol)


WoW has tons of marketing, astonishingly low PC requirements, and it's really hard to lose at it.

To pursue those three points... There were trial discs on grocery store counters; there were adverts in magazines; on soda bottles and junk food; public art exhibitions; television commercials; and banners on nearly every website I've ever visited! I found a cheap, eight-year-old laptop in the back of my brother's closet that could run WoW on low settings, but smoothly! And finally, when I tried to get my mother-in-law to play FFXI with my spouse and I, she didn't even understand how to play after an entire year of leeching actually playing with us!

I don't mean to say that any game should try to mimic these traits -- in fact I think that they make a game unbearable for many reasons -- but I do want to point out that WoW's success doesn't defy logic, it really makes a lot of sense.

(and, yeah, unrelated to topic, heh >_>)
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Yeah, the advertising has always been amazing, but it's still just astonishing. WoW has always been EVERYWHERE, I mean as we all know there was even a whole WoW south park episode like 6 years ago lol.

People were making the argument that "P2P isnt dead, look at WoW" which is why I bring it up again that that was unfair.

I mean, it's at this point: my mom is a teacher. She came home THIS year and told me about how she heard about a game called WoW at her school and how a family all plays together.

This is in 2013. WoW came out about a decade ago, I think. I know other games have lasted that long (FFXI, duh) but that's just crazy in my opinion, that my own mother somehow got suggested that she play WoW IRL. I dunno. Of course I didn't let her. If we're being realistic here, FFXIV is NEVER. EVER going to be that game that regular people to discuss with their friends and even TEACHERS IRL openly, that's a part of pop culture.

so yeah, I'm just saying it's unfair to reply "WoW pulled it off though (; wrecked ur whole argument" when I say P2P is dead. dozens of MMORPGs have tried and failed to do what WoW did for many years now, and they just can't.
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So how long does the battery on the key chain I've got supposed to last for? I've had it since the beginning would hate for it to crap out when I really needed it?
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Guaranteed five years, estimated for seven or so. I've had mine since the beginning as well.

I think this app is being introduced to address the fact that the batteries are going to start dying.
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Some people say they still have the one from FFXI. So I'm guessing you have quite a few more years left on yours. The phone app is a much needed backup plan.
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Mine is from when tokens were first introduced, I won it from Zam Smiley: grin

Still works fine.
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NOC_NA wrote:

Release Date Confirmed for the Square Enix Software Token

The previously announced Square Enix Software Token app for smartphones running on iOS and Android operating systems has been set to be released on March 28, 2013 (PDT).

We encourage you to use this app to log in with a One-Time Password, as this will vastly improve the security of your Square Enix account.

Please note that the app can be downloaded after midnight on March 28, 2013 (PDT) for both iOS and Android versions, but will become usable after 12:00 (PDT) on the same day.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61430-NA-Release-Date-Confirmed-for-the-Square-Enix-Software-Token
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Pretty much in time for Seekers of Adoulin, interesting. I'll have to look to see if I can switch from my existing token.
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Well since it didn't say anything about "purchase" i am guessing its free but we will see when its ready.

By the way i was wandering. I got an ipod touch and a smartphone with android can i install it in both and be the same? Or i need to install it in one of them only?
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Well since it didn't say anything about "purchase" i am guessing its free but we will see when its ready.

By the way i was wandering. I got an ipod touch and a smartphone with android can i install it in both and be the same? Or i need to install it in one of them only?


If they allow multiple tokens then I think you can do both, but you will need to authenticate each device separately.
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Well i meant like both of the apps will be linked to the same account and will work as one token. Meaning either one i put will work the same.

I ask this because i tent to forget one of the 2 devices very often. >_<
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Well i meant like both of the apps will be linked to the same account and will work as one token. Meaning either one i put will work the same.

I ask this because i tent to forget one of the 2 devices very often. >_<


I know what you meant. I think you should be able to register multiple devices but each one will give out different codes. The algorithms for those RSA key generators usually rely on some specific device ID when it generates the key, so each device could be registered and either code will work. It all depends on how they implement it.
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Ah thanks now i get it. Well it will be great if they do it like that.
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Obviously having multiple tokens is more of a security issue, but not a giant issue.
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