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#352 Apr 03 2013 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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God, I seriously cannot wait for the game to come out so everyone can actually have something different to talk about. Every "new" thread devolves into the same things.


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#353 Apr 03 2013 at 3:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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I just want the game to come out so one side will say "i told you so" and the other one will cry in a corner. At this point i don't care who "wins" i just want the **** game to come out.
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#354 Apr 03 2013 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I just want the game to come out so one side will say "i told you so" and the other one will cry in a corner. At this point i don't care who "wins" i just want the **** game to come out.



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I just want the game to come out so one side will say "i told you so" and the other one will cry in a corner. At this point i don't care who "wins" i just want the **** game to come out.


Sadly, in the Fox News universe we live in, you're either right or you're destroying America. I don't think FFXIV debates are any more rational no matter how much conclusive proof you throw at it.
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Trolls always gonna troll lol
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Is there a forum definition for the term troll? I don't use that word often, if at all. I mean, anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll right? On some levels, I have to respect their tenacity to hold their position midst the hoard.
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Is there a forum definition for the term troll? I don't use that word often, if at all. I mean, anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll right? On some levels, I have to respect their tenacity to hold their position midst the hoard.


Ask and ye shall receive lol

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Is there a forum definition for the term troll? I don't use that word often, if at all. I mean, anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll right? On some levels, I have to respect their tenacity to hold their position midst the hoard.


Considering this forum is actually way more relax than for example the Main Forums! The word troll does not get thrown around as much (Tho it did back in the Day!) but basically if you are not a White Knight! You are a Troll! Which is funny because the majority of the so called trolls have been way more right about what direction the game is going than the actual White Knights! Which brings the question ? Who is the real troll really ?
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[quote]Bless to me looks like a ripoff of FFXIV done right, even the races are almost identical lol Bless however looks exciting to play to me.


Might I recommend some other top-quality games to you such as Super Mole Kart, Minecroft, and Assassin's Credence? They're all such vibrant and interesting games; I don't know how the respective companies come up with so many good ideas -- and so quickly, at that!

And, in the case of Bless, nothing spells quality like Korean game company NEOWIZ GAMES, right? Smiley: rolleyes


Looks pretty quality to me.

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The problem with 99% of Korean MMOs is that the graphics are amazing, and the game design is ****. Bare of any original content. The same thing for 100 levels. Re: boring.
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The problem with 99% of Korean MMOs is that the graphics are amazing, and the game design is sh*t. Bare of any original content. The same thing for 100 levels. Re: boring.


I agree in general, but the industry is growing rapidly there. It might not always be the case.

OT a bit, Bravely Default got announced for localization. while I'm sure this was decided a while ago before we got the Wada news and they're just announcing it now, I'm glad Square is doing SOMETHING right.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 7:34am by Killua125
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Growing rapidly, but progressing slowly. It could be that this one breaks the mold, but I won't believe it until I see it. At best, it'll probably be another WoW+1. A few tweaks here and there, but the same basic experience--nothing new enough for the players who have been there, done that. Of course, execution>concept, but if there's one thing I don't trust Korean developers to do, it's execute.
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#364 Apr 04 2013 at 6:11 AM Rating: Default
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I didn't say this one would break the mold. Looks kinda generic if you ask me.
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GDLYL wrote:
Is there a forum definition for the term troll? I don't use that word often, if at all. I mean, anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll right? On some levels, I have to respect their tenacity to hold their position midst the hoard.


Considering this forum is actually way more relax than for example the Main Forums! The word troll does not get thrown around as much (Tho it did back in the Day!) but basically if you are not a White Knight! You are a Troll! Which is funny because the majority of the so called trolls have been way more right about what direction the game is going than the actual White Knights! Which brings the question ? Who is the real troll really ?



...Says the troll.. LOL jk jk
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Ostia wrote:
GDLYL wrote:
Is there a forum definition for the term troll? I don't use that word often, if at all. I mean, anyone that doesn't agree with me is a troll right? On some levels, I have to respect their tenacity to hold their position midst the hoard.


Considering this forum is actually way more relax than for example the Main Forums! The word troll does not get thrown around as much (Tho it did back in the Day!) but basically if you are not a White Knight! You are a Troll! Which is funny because the majority of the so called trolls have been way more right about what direction the game is going than the actual White Knights! Which brings the question ? Who is the real troll really ?



...Says the troll.. LOL jk jk


Ostia: Hey 1.0 sucks.
W.K: Omg dude 1.0 does not Suck! Is a diamon in the dirt, a gift from god, go back to WOW!
S.E: Wow! This game does Sucks! Sorry! We apologize for It!
Ostia: ..... Told you guys it sucked Smiley: lol
W.K: W/E you Troll! Lalalalalala! Cannot Read You! Go back to WOW!

Ostia: This game will need to borrow elements and standards from WOW to Succed! Also the battle system blows, is Slow!
W.K: Omg! WOW Sucks! Is Ez mode! XI FOEVA 1337! XIV battle system is Stratigic like chess man you just dont know , STFU TROLL!
S.E We are actually going to borrow elements from WOW, and standard MMO Elements, Questing will be the main way to level, also combat will be overhauled to make it Faster!
Ostia: Smiley: lol Told you Guys!
W.K: Ostia STFU! You a Troll Man! You said it before SE said it, therefore INVALIDS! Thank you SE for making combat faster and making XIV more like WOW! ALL HAIL SE!

Jk! Jk! I am sure that is not what happened at all...... Right ?

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Tell us more you mighty Prophet Ostia!!! Smiley: tongue

What can i say...i started playing the new bioshock and i keep hearing this **** prophet!!! Smiley: laugh
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Tell us more you mighty Prophet Ostia!!! Smiley: tongue

What can i say...i started playing the new bioshock and i keep hearing this **** prophet!!! Smiley: laugh


I hoped wada resigned and he did ?
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OT a bit, Bravely Default got announced for localization. while I'm sure this was decided a while ago before we got the Wada news and they're just announcing it now, I'm glad Square is doing SOMETHING right.


Best news about SE I've heard in... over a year? I'm stoked about an English Bravely Default release!

It's the perfect title for those who hold contrary opinions on Zam, after all. Smiley: tongue
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Is that a PS3 game ? I really have not looked into it, but i have heard a few good things about the game.
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Oh Interesting! Is a succesor for FF heroes of light (Which i have not played, but will do now to see if there are any connections) there also seems to be a PC sequelish game in development, and a sequel, the one thing that sold me on the game, was the class system, is based on FFV <3
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Is that a PS3 game ? I really have not looked into it, but i have heard a few good things about the game.

Looks like 3DS. Oh well. Not playing that one lol
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I got 72 hours out of Four Warriors/Heroes of Light, so I've been excited about Bravely Default since, well, almost since the 3DS was announced. They're wonderfully lengthy games with great art direction and music (the first contained nearly a hundred chiptune tracks), and certainly well worth looking into if you liked Final Fantasy III and/or V. Smiley: nod

Erm... oh, yeah, about FFXIV... >_>
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How does Four heroes of light stack againts other FF titles of the same theme ? you know the crystal sagas etc etc ? Does it has a unique story ?
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I never played 4 Heroes of Light but there was a lot of buzz surrounding Bravely Default despite being Japanese only. It was really well received.

It's a really good start. As for it being a XIV board, well yeah, but this topic was specifically about Wada, Square Enix, and what they can do to fix their company, so it's appropriate.

Then again, I'm not really inclined to "praise" Square Enix for bringing Bravely Default stateside... you would think selling your major game releases (especially one that was critically praised) to your fans would be a no brainer.

It's at least a step in the right direction though.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 9:01pm by Killua125
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I never played 4 Heroes of Light but there was a lot of buzz surrounding Bravely Default despite being Japanese only. It was really well received.

It's a really good start. As for it being a XIV board, well yeah, but this topic was specifically about Wada, Square Enix, and what they can do to fix their company, so it's appropriate.

Then again, I'm not really inclined to "praise" Square Enix for bringing Bravely Default stateside... you would think selling your major game releases (especially one that was critically praised) to your fans would be a no brainer.

It's at least a step in the right direction though.

Edited, Apr 4th 2013 9:01pm by Killua125

Couldnt agree more.. I would hope there was some other reason why they did not send it besides just not doing it for no good reason.. But then again this is SE we are talking about.. I have mad love for them but in some instances they make decisions that cant be defended lol.. This one among them.. This game amng others should have BEEN stateside.

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I got 72 hours out of Four Warriors/Heroes of Light, so I've been excited about Bravely Default since, well, almost since the 3DS was announced. They're wonderfully lengthy games with great art direction and music (the first contained nearly a hundred chiptune tracks), and certainly well worth looking into if you liked Final Fantasy III and/or V. Smiley: nod

Erm... oh, yeah, about FFXIV... >_>


I'm ok with off topic conversation now because there is so little news other than the occasional letter from the producer. I'll probably police it a little more once the NDA lifts though so chat away!
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How does Four heroes of light stack againts other FF titles of the same theme ? you know the crystal sagas etc etc ? Does it has a unique story ?


A mini rundown of Four Heroes for Ostia (I'll be as objective as possible):

Like the early Final Fantasy games it evokes (again, III and V especially), Four Heroes is somewhat light on story. That's not to say that each of the characters lacks a distinct personality -- each also has a couple personal issues along the way that get brought up -- or that there's not a persistent, overarching goal to accomplish with side quests along the way, but overall the story definitely takes a backseat to the highly nostalgic atmosphere and individual character customization. Jobs include everything from Black Mage and Warrior to Scholar, Paladin, Alchemist, and Shaman (I think there are almost 30 classes available, all told).

All equipment shows up on your character, and each character wears their clothes with unique flair (one person gets cat ears for their White Mage, another gets an orb at the top of their Black Mage hat, etc.), so that's also a nice touch. There are also several very difficult, endgame dungeons available -- before you go off to fight the final boss! -- in which you find the "relic" weapons for each class.


Until there's more to discuss about XIV, I'll be taking full advantage of my newly sanctioned off-topic privileges!
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How does Four heroes of light stack againts other FF titles of the same theme ? you know the crystal sagas etc etc ? Does it has a unique story ?


A mini rundown of Four Heroes for Ostia (I'll be as objective as possible):

Like the early Final Fantasy games it evokes (again, III and V especially), Four Heroes is somewhat light on story. That's not to say that each of the characters lacks a distinct personality -- each also has a couple personal issues along the way that get brought up -- or that there's not a persistent, overarching goal to accomplish with side quests along the way, but overall the story definitely takes a backseat to the highly nostalgic atmosphere and individual character customization. Jobs include everything from Black Mage and Warrior to Scholar, Paladin, Alchemist, and Shaman (I think there are almost 30 classes available, all told).

All equipment shows up on your character, and each character wears their clothes with unique flair (one person gets cat ears for their White Mage, another gets an orb at the top of their Black Mage hat, etc.), so that's also a nice touch. There are also several very difficult, endgame dungeons available -- before you go off to fight the final boss! -- in which you find the "relic" weapons for each class.


Until there's more to discuss about XIV, I'll be taking full advantage of my newly sanctioned off-topic privileges!


Awesome! I will buy it tomorrow morning, so i can beat it by the time BD is released since they are related in some sort of way.

Now! SE! Release Type-0!! And reclaim your rightful throne as RPG Kings!
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Great video as to why Wada going is long overdue.

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Four Heroes is an extremely difficult game.

However, to keep it XIV relevant, artist Akihiko Yoshida did the art direction/character design for 4 Heroes, Bravely Default, and FFXIV.
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#382 Apr 05 2013 at 9:28 PM Rating: Default
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Great video as to why Wada going is long overdue.



See that dude figured it out :) How come so many W.K and SE cannot ?
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I like some of that guy's videos. I'll watch it in a minute, lol. I don't agree with all of his opinions but he makes some good points.
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He makes some good points, but he's kind of ridiculous about it. Is he trying to be the Jim Cramer of the video game industry?

Seriously, I was just waiting for him to pull out a rubber chicken or smash some cymbals together.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 10:10pm by Kachi
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