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#52 Apr 08 2013 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
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Some of you guys make such a huge deal out of things that don't ultimately matter. Does the launch of 2.0 steal money out of your wallet? If you already have the 1.0 disc then you have your month of free testing. Would you like it; who knows? Only you can answer that. I don't like waiting 12 hours for an NM to spawn so I might get a chance to roll on an item but others around here love it.

Instead of getting your pants in a bunch over what may or may not happen, why not just sit back and chill? Grab a couple liters of whiskey and a console game with tons 'o playtime. Don't get me wrong, I dig forum drama as much as anyone (except maybe the mods) but after a while you can see where the arguments start to drift towards.



an thats why a GOOD game gives options to please BOTH ppl instead of alienating one... FFXI for example.. you didnt wanna cam Argus for PCC just about EVERY NM that had a worthwhile drop that ppl would want, also had the option to a get that same item through means of a bcnm or ksnm, so you didnt HAVE to camp NMs but or those of us that liked the thrill of the hunt, he had the camping option too.. thats how yo please BOTH sides


The drop rate on that BCNM could hardly be considered an option Smiley: laugh



its better than getting zero chance at all at a drop because you cant compete with the bots camping the actual NMs spawn or you had better things to do then be on FFXI at 2-5am like sleep.. or work...
#53 Apr 08 2013 at 7:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Wint wrote:
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Some of you guys make such a huge deal out of things that don't ultimately matter. Does the launch of 2.0 steal money out of your wallet? If you already have the 1.0 disc then you have your month of free testing. Would you like it; who knows? Only you can answer that. I don't like waiting 12 hours for an NM to spawn so I might get a chance to roll on an item but others around here love it.

Instead of getting your pants in a bunch over what may or may not happen, why not just sit back and chill? Grab a couple liters of whiskey and a console game with tons 'o playtime. Don't get me wrong, I dig forum drama as much as anyone (except maybe the mods) but after a while you can see where the arguments start to drift towards.



an thats why a GOOD game gives options to please BOTH ppl instead of alienating one... FFXI for example.. you didnt wanna cam Argus for PCC just about EVERY NM that had a worthwhile drop that ppl would want, also had the option to a get that same item through means of a bcnm or ksnm, so you didnt HAVE to camp NMs but or those of us that liked the thrill of the hunt, he had the camping option too.. thats how yo please BOTH sides


The drop rate on that BCNM could hardly be considered an option Smiley: laugh



its better than getting zero chance at all at a drop because you cant compete with the bots camping the actual NMs spawn or you had better things to do then be on FFXI at 2-5am like sleep.. or work...


The odds were just about zero, especially when you think of how long it takes to farm that many seals, the chances were very good none of your orbs will drop what you want. I think most people who did BCNM/KSNMs only did it for the gil. If you went in hoping you'd get a P. Charm or whatever rare item was supposed to drop you were most likely disappointed. I don't know many people who would argue that this was a good solution for anything. In fact, after they did that I managed to catch Argus unclaimed several times and had a Peacock Amulet for both my main char and my mule.
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#54 Apr 08 2013 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I cannot wait for the NDA to drop, so i can laugh at the panic


What do you think people are going to panic about?

I am a Legacy member. I also acknowledge the NDA. I can't think of any reason why anyone will panic. Quite the opposite, actually.


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I cannot wait for the NDA to drop, so i can laugh at the panic


What do you think people are going to panic about?

I am a Legacy member. I also acknowledge the NDA. I can't think of any reason why anyone will panic. Quite the opposite, actually.


I am a Legacy Member, I also acknowledge the NDA. I can't think of any reason why aywone will not panic. Quite literally the game turned out as i preditec. And they seem to have that major problem i said they would regarding the two Playerbases they seem to want to court :)

Also Is only Alpha.... It's only beta... It's only Beta phase 2.... Do not panic, they will add "Stuff" in it's first year, statements have already started to surface.... Deja Vu ?



thank for pretty much confirming that ARR isnt the huge revamp thats "built from the ground up" and different from 1.0 so significantly that they might as well be two different games, that everyone around here would lead people to believe lol


So basically ARR is just one huge patch/band aid with a new subtitle thrown in to get ppl who may despise the games attention... and nothing close to the reconstructive surgery that would make John Travolta look like Nicholas Cage (surel Im not the only one whos seen Face Off) that ppl would like us to believe it is.
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If you believe that then don't let the door hit you on the *** on your way out. Nice talking to you! Smiley: laugh
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#56 Apr 08 2013 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Wint wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Seraphaniim wrote:
Some of you guys make such a huge deal out of things that don't ultimately matter. Does the launch of 2.0 steal money out of your wallet? If you already have the 1.0 disc then you have your month of free testing. Would you like it; who knows? Only you can answer that. I don't like waiting 12 hours for an NM to spawn so I might get a chance to roll on an item but others around here love it.

Instead of getting your pants in a bunch over what may or may not happen, why not just sit back and chill? Grab a couple liters of whiskey and a console game with tons 'o playtime. Don't get me wrong, I dig forum drama as much as anyone (except maybe the mods) but after a while you can see where the arguments start to drift towards.



an thats why a GOOD game gives options to please BOTH ppl instead of alienating one... FFXI for example.. you didnt wanna cam Argus for PCC just about EVERY NM that had a worthwhile drop that ppl would want, also had the option to a get that same item through means of a bcnm or ksnm, so you didnt HAVE to camp NMs but or those of us that liked the thrill of the hunt, he had the camping option too.. thats how yo please BOTH sides


The drop rate on that BCNM could hardly be considered an option Smiley: laugh



its better than getting zero chance at all at a drop because you cant compete with the bots camping the actual NMs spawn or you had better things to do then be on FFXI at 2-5am like sleep.. or work...


The odds were just about zero, especially when you think of how long it takes to farm that many seals, the chances were very good none of your orbs will drop what you want. I think most people who did BCNM/KSNMs only did it for the gil. If you went in hoping you'd get a P. Charm or whatever rare item was supposed to drop you were most likely disappointed. I don't know many people who would argue that this was a good solution for anything. In fact, after they did that I managed to catch Argus unclaimed several times and had a Peacock Amulet for both my main char and my mule.



yeah I did BCNMs/KSNMs for gil to buy those very things that dropped.. i,e if i wanted a peacock charm Id do the bcnm/ksnm to either get the drop or if that doesnt happen eventually the gil i did get would be enough to buy one), as for farming LKS or BS.. i played teh game since NA PS2 launch.. i NEVER used BS or KS until years later when the NM item dropping BCNM/KSNMs came out so I already had thousands of KS/BS stockpiled so farming was never an issue for me
#57 Apr 08 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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There is quite some denial going on here indeed.

ARR is merely a one huge patch? I mean, I was pretty sure humanity would not let me down in that comments like this would arise...

That doesn't make it any less ridiculous of a statement, lol.
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We really want to compete against World of Warcraft and for example the new Star Wars MMO.

#58 Apr 08 2013 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
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If you believe that then don't let the door hit you on the *** on your way out. Nice talking to you! Smiley: laugh



so are you saying i suck at reading comprehension? Because what I said is exactly what it looks like Ostia is implying and considering he/she is playing the beta I would THINK he/she knows what theyre talking about..

As for not letting the door hit me, Im still gonna play it, Im sure Ill still like it i just wont like it as much as i COULD have or as much as i liked FFXI. There are plenty of games I dont rate highly (white knight chronicles is only a 6/10 in my book) that i spend thousands of hours playing, and since I like MMO and FFXIV will be the only REAL mmo available for non backwards compatible PS3s (otherwise Id play FFXI) then FFXIV wins by defult because itll have nothing else to choose from on that platform.

But yeah if i were playing on PC I could name at least 20 MMOs Im sure Id probably like more
#59 Apr 08 2013 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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so are you saying i suck at reading comprehension? Because what I said is exactly what it looks like Ostia is implying and considering he/she is playing the beta I would THINK he/she knows what theyre talking about..


Some people have an agenda. Ostia even states the game is turning out exactly as s/he predicted.

If you can't see through the explicit bias, well, hopefully you can decide for yourself when the time comes at least.

I have seen Ostia's posts on [NDA] and they don't really paint any picture but his or her very own. Believe what you wish.


Edited, Apr 8th 2013 9:05am by Wint
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#60 Apr 08 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Define "content".

Quests would still be open world and instanced. Are quests content?

Levequest are open world, are they content?

Guildhest (replacing Behest) shown to be open world as well, are they content?

I think what they meant by content, is the raiding-like content, and there won't be any raiding-like in open world with the closest to it being FATE.


Well if we follow that logic, they adding an eye patch is adding content, now real MMO players do not consider an addition of an eye pach as a content release, as far as raiding like content is concerned, from what Yoshi has stated there will be the crystal tower and bahamuts labrynth, which will be gated at first, which means you can only get to floor 5 of crystal tower at release and so only so far into the labrynth, with additional access later on (Which both are istanced) as far as opened world raiding, i believe Odin will be roaming ? and FATES are like hmm Rifts and GW2 zerg fest.
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so are you saying i suck at reading comprehension? Because what I said is exactly what it looks like Ostia is implying and considering he/she is playing the beta I would THINK he/she knows what theyre talking about..


Some people have an agenda. Ostia even states the game is turning out exactly as s/he predicted.

If you can't see through the explicit bias, well, hopefully you can decide for yourself when the time comes at least.

I have seen Ostia's posts on [NDA] and they don't really paint any picture but his or her very own. Believe what you wish.


I am not sure you are allowed to explicitly say "I have access to [NDA]" which implie you are in beta w/o saying "Hey i am legacy"

As far as pictures.... Hey some people where perfectly fine with 1.0...... Just saying!

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Yeah...what beta forums?
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#63 Apr 08 2013 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
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Ostia wrote:
As far as pictures.... Hey some people where perfectly fine with 1.0...... Just saying!


Likewise some people will panic about ARR when NDA is lifted... your predictions will come true! Don't forget to rub it in our face.

My good *friend* has a beta access btw.

Edited, Apr 8th 2013 2:05pm by Hyanmen
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Hyanmen wrote:
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As far as pictures.... Hey some people where perfectly fine with 1.0...... Just saying!


Likewise some people will panic about ARR when NDA is lifted... your predictions will come true! Don't forget to rub it in our face.

My good *friend* has a beta access btw.

Edited, Apr 8th 2013 2:05pm by Hyanmen


But i can be just speculating about the status of the game, you on the other hand flat out stated that not only do you have access, but that you have seen another person from this board on them.... Which not only is kinda stalkish, but is againts the NDA.

Either Way! Let's talk bout personal agendas.... What about them Forum Police huh ?
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Ok this thread is done.
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