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#1 Apr 11 2013 at 5:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hello all!
Fernehalwes here.

I’m assuming many of you caught the 6th Producer Letter Live, but for those of you who didn't, here’s a link to the section that created the most buzz─the magitek mounts!



Supposedly, the idea for this sample video came the day before the performance. Yoshi-P, wanting something utterly epic, came to one of the event planners (we’ll call him ‘H’), and gave him a list of demands:

- There must be three riders
- They must be traversing a snowy mountain trail
- The girl must look like a former imperial soldier suffering from amnesia who is being controlled by the Empire with a Slave Crown

Et cetera.

Luckily, H was up to the challenge, and despite the lack of prep time, was able to whip up a fairly faithful recreation of a “certain” classic RPG’s opening scene. Right down to their imperial uniforms!


She looks awfully familiar...
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Could this be...Biggs?
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Making this...Wedge?
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And then there’s this shot which didn’t make it into the final video...
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Now THAT brings back memories...

Fernehalwes


Edited, Apr 11th 2013 6:11am by Wint
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God, my heartstrings cannot handle the weight.

This game better do justice to such an homage, or I'm going to have to slit someone's throat.
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but my legacy chocobo will look bland compared to this :(
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but my legacy chocobo will look bland compared to this :(


Man I hope you are kidding me Smiley: rolleyes
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#6reaper2516, Posted: Apr 11 2013 at 6:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) why i paid good money for it
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That last picture. SO EPIC!!
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Wtf! Is that ?
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Ostia wrote:
Wtf! Is that ?


Ostia.. We meet again. O.O
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abesut wrote:
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Wtf! Is that ?


Ostia.. We meet again. O.O


Abesut... Who are you ? 0.0

Also Yoshi needs to stop using nostalgia to call attention to it's game, is getting damm sad already.
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Ostia wrote:
abesut wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Wtf! Is that ?


Ostia.. We meet again. O.O


Abesut... Who are you ? 0.0

Also Yoshi needs to stop using nostalgia to call attention to it's game, is getting damm sad already.


I agree, it's starting to look sorta desperate.
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Also Yoshi needs to stop using nostalgia to call attention to it's game, is getting damm sad already.


On the contrary. FF fans are the only ones who can save FFXIV. Scenes like this are the summoning spells that will win them over. Anyone who loved those old school games go nuts for stuff like this.
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Ostia wrote:
Also Yoshi needs to stop using nostalgia to call attention to it's game, is getting damm sad already.


On the contrary. FF fans are the only ones who can save FFXIV. Scenes like this are the summoning spells that will win them over. Anyone who loved those old school games go nuts for stuff like this.


A scene that will not be ingame, is irrelevant is just calling into nostalgia to call attention to the game, is a cheap trick.

Also it is not FF fans who will save this game :) FF fans do not play FF online :) MMO FANS DO :)
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Says you, Ostia.

My FF Fandom made me a MMO player. Not the other way around.
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They forgot to include the part when Biggs and Wedge were hopping randomly through the snow, and when Terra started doing a never-ending /dance emote...
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#16Ostia, Posted: Apr 11 2013 at 2:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Says the Data :) FFXI 500K quickly went down, FFXIV only sold 300K copies quickly went down.
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Says you, Ostia.

My FF Fandom made me a MMO player. Not the other way around.


Says the Data :) FFXI 500K quickly went down, FFXIV only sold 300K copies quickly went down.

FF Series has sold 100 million units world wide, there are more than 8 Million individual fans of FF....... Yet their online games combined do not break 700K :)

FF fans care very little for FF Online.


I'ma stop you right there.

You have just defined the exact untapped market I'm talking about, the one that will save FFXIV from certain doom. If Yoshida can just get a fraction of FF fans who have given FFXI a pass to give FFXIV a try, they should make him the next CEO of SE.
#18 Apr 11 2013 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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Can't wait to walk around in my own Magitek ^^
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... it's starting to look sorta desperate.


I'm just waiting for the inevitable Sephiroth missions they're going to add. Final Fantasy XIV: All the Bravest. Smiley: rolleyes
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Can't wait to walk around in my own Magitek ^^


Be ready to drop $19.99 in Cash Shop! Smiley: sly
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Ostia wrote:
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Says you, Ostia.

My FF Fandom made me a MMO player. Not the other way around.


Says the Data :) FFXI 500K quickly went down,



Utter bullsh*t. FFXI maintained 500k for quite a few years, then dipped at about 2010. That's not quickly, that's gradually.

And you can shove your elitism up a Rodagen's tail pipe. Keep FFVI in every aspect of every Final Fantasy possible. Never forget.

Edited, Apr 11th 2013 7:42pm by Hyrist
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Killua125 wrote:
... it's starting to look sorta desperate.


I'm just waiting for the inevitable Sephiroth missions they're going to add. Final Fantasy XIV: All the Bravest. Smiley: rolleyes


Oh they already did those in 1.23, din't you play ?
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Mount looks great and all, but I do feel the recreation of VI was a bit of a step too far. It just comes across as (to me anyway, your opinion may and probably does vary) a bit desperate.

"We've nothing new to show you or discuss, but LOOK! MAGITEK! We've even knocked up a Hume female to look like Terra!"

I'm a big Final Fantasy fan, played XI for years and gave XIV more than a fair shot, but really am struggling to keep up any enthusiasm with ARR now.
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All I need is some "Mode 7" and I'll be set. :)

I like the "pandering."

There will be other new numbered Final Fantasies that can be novel.

And for those of you who think this is desperate *cough*, who do you think is reading a FFXIV blog... oh that's right, fans of the series.

And it's not like they are tricking people: No one thinks they are remaking FFVI, no one expects this, it's all just for fun; to show off the Magitek. That's all it is.

Just because recent updates have been as dry as a desert doesn't mean you have to stir up a sh...uh, sandstorm.
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Yeah I guess I don't see how one fun video suddenly makes ARR something unworthy of attention. To each their own I guess.
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Yeah I guess I don't see how one fun video suddenly makes ARR something unworthy of attention. To each their own I guess.


A very extreme statement to make considering no one has so far in this thread stated that they are now no longer interested in ARR based exclusively on this one video.
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really am struggling to keep up any enthusiasm with ARR now.


You're right, you didn't say you were no longer interested. "Really...struggling" means you're super interested right? Smiley: tongue

To be fair I didn't say you were no longer interested, that's all you.

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A thought occurred to me.

They recreated the opening scene of FFVII on the PS3 as a demo and the crowd went wild and demanded a remake.

They recreated the opening scene of FFV on an engine that will run on the PS3 and half the crowd started booing.

Smiley: lol
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A thought occurred to me.

They recreated the opening scene of FFVII on the PS3 as a demo and the crowd went wild and demanded a remake.

They recreated the opening scene of FFV on an engine that will run on the PS3 and half the crowd started booing.

Smiley: lol


Good, maybe SE will announce a FFVI HQ remake then!

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Good, maybe SE will announce a FFVI HQ remake then!
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As long as the FFVI characters are kept to a teaser, then I'm fine.

I'll start getting angry if they actually throw in Terra in the storyline, or Squall, or any main series character.

Then again, FFIII Dark Cloud is a raid boss in the Crystal Tower according to the Letter from the Producer... so I don't know what to think.

Edited, Apr 11th 2013 7:53pm by UltKnightGrover
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Panderer!!!!! ;)

I so wanted that demo to be real. Stupid N64 limitations.
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As long as the FFVI characters are kept to a teaser, then I'm fine.

I'll start getting angry if they actually throw in Terra in the storyline, or Squall, or any main series character.

Then again, FFIII Dark Cloud is a raid boss in the Crystal Tower according to the Letter from the Producer... so I don't know what to think.

Edited, Apr 11th 2013 7:53pm by UltKnightGrover


I can't imagine they would do that, this was merely intended to be a fun video to show off new stuff, I don't see what the big deal is.
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****, people would probably be happier if they scrapped ARR altogether and made a FF6 MMO. But personally I try to look at it as evidence that they have some idea of what their fans want.
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I'm actually okay with them allowing characters to make cameos, but keep it subtle. A random quest or leve with some lore text is fine. Using Terra as an example, rather than having an NPC Terra giving you a quest, maybe allowing you to do a magitek quest battle where you fight a trio of Magiteks using the Terra/Biggs/Wedge models (but without names) is okay. Only the players who played VI and are paying attention might get the memo. Also known as Easter Eggs.
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I'm just ambivalent on the video; it didn't drive me into rage-mode, or cause orgasmic waves of joy. I just saw it thought, "Hmm, that's nice. Anyways..."

If the game ends up being not-fun to play, then having magitek in it won't make me like it. If the game is fantastic, the magitek being a shout-out to FFVI won't drive me nuts. It's more or less irrelevant to my opinion on the game at this time.

To be fair, I really like FFVI; it overtook FFIV as my favorite as I got older. This isn't FFVI though, it's FFXIV; it'll have to stand or fall on its own merit, and all the easter eggs you can cram in won't make it not-FFXIV.
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I'm just ambivalent on the video; it didn't drive me into rage-mode, or cause orgasmic waves of joy. I just saw it thought, "Hmm, that's nice. Anyways..."

If the game ends up being not-fun to play, then having magitek in it won't make me like it. If the game is fantastic, the magitek being a shout-out to FFVI won't drive me nuts. It's more or less irrelevant to my opinion on the game at this time.

To be fair, I really like FFVI; it overtook FFIV as my favorite as I got older. This isn't FFVI though, it's FFXIV; it'll have to stand or fall on its own merit, and all the easter eggs you can cram in won't make it not-FFXIV.


In the same vein. I take to FFVI's flavor of Magitek like some people enjoy steampunk (And it's pretty much the same genre.) I like that Anamo style of design and artwork. I did when they made Dragoon AF to fit to its standards too. To me, its a step in the right direction, mixing a bit of the old in with the new - and the little bit of FFVI fanservice to pay homage to the game the mount came from was endearing.

No, it won't make or break the game - but I appreciate the shout-out to my childhood all the same.

I don't expect full on character cameos, unless they were featured in like a Gold Saucer Arena mode or something. That would be cool.
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Ostia.. We meet again. O.O


Abesut... Who are you ? 0.0

Also Yoshi needs to stop using nostalgia to call attention to it's game, is getting damm sad already.


I agree, it's starting to look sorta desperate.



It's actually looking like he's giving us what we've been PLEADING FOR.
#39Ostia, Posted: Apr 13 2013 at 11:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I doubt anybody has asked for a "Hey let us see how X character looks in this engine"
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I love would to see more FF characters remade in this engine... The way I see it, Yoshi-P is keeping the fans in mind and looking back at what made FF successful and trying to renew that spark.
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I love would to see more FF characters remade in this engine... The way I see it, Yoshi-P is keeping the fans in mind and looking back at what made FF successful and trying to renew that spark.


Given that each main Final Fantasy title has always been set in a different world with entirely different characters, I do not see how fanservice cameos would be synonymous with "what made FF successful."

Obviously SE is simply trying to attract people to FFXIV in the best way they know how: by relating or attaching the new product to the old products in some way. It makes sense, really, as they're essentially faced with two marketing options. They could either show FFXIV for what it is -- a totally failed title remade into a reasonably generic post-WoW MMORPG -- or associate it with what they'd like it to be -- one of the finest and most well-remembered RPGs ever created.

It's like when Richard Garriott announces he's making a new game. Do you think he refers to himself as the Father of Ultima or the Father of Tabula Rasa? Smiley: lol
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Probably neither tbh Smiley: tongue
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You know the best thing about this video? It was probably rendered in an area of FFXIV:ARR where there is actually snow. The simple fact that such a zone exists where one did not before speaks volumes especially in the desired improvements sought by fans/critics of 1.0.

I know some people are feeling because of the video that it is just a rip-off but honestly... it is magitek... and it looks great if you ask me. The Devs probably wanted to have a little fun. I'm betting many of the people who work there do so because at some point they were fans of the series or the company.

The only problem I see from this video is that the /nda off command is very slow to respond and does not work.
Smiley: jester

Just venting some excitement for Phase 3 to get here and SE to utilize the /nda off command.

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