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#1 Apr 29 2013 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20130428005/

So I found this on when beta testing 3 phase will start and aperently everyone is up in an uproar about it. I do believe this buts back the time line and makes me question a true release? Disappointing I'm very hyped to play this again when released.
#2 Apr 29 2013 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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It pushes back phase 3 by about 2 weeks. That's not that bad. I'm not sure why anyone would think the sky is falling, just because they need a little more time to get phase 3 started. I'm sure they want the PS3 beta to go well, and thats prolly what the delay is for.
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They never announced a ******* date to begin with. Smiley: mad
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It pushes back phase 3 by about 2 weeks. That's not that bad. I'm not sure why anyone would think the sky is falling


Well it IS the Internet..

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#5 Apr 29 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
The only answer worth giving is, "It will be ready when it's ready."

As for the "uproar," this game has quite a loyal following of trolls. In addition to the regular forum trolls, there are also many players who still probably feel personally offended by the poor quality of version 1.0.

Most people are in favor of delaying the game's hypothetical launch date (especially a slight delay such as this) in order to get things done right.
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#6 Apr 29 2013 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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This is just one of these things Square won't win either way. The PS3 version hasn't been beta tested on any scale it takes for a MMO yet other than internally (which as anyone who plays a MMO knows a lotta bugs go unnoticed or slip past on smaller scale testing. I'm sure they are still working out the PS3 version. If they brought it out "on time" by their schedule people would cry about the bugs in the client. If they take a lil more time to hash a few things out people will cry about that too. Square is on a very slippery slope and they are quite aware of that fact. Count ourselves fortunate it is just 1-2 weeks (if it's even true). Personally I'm glad they are taking another week or so. Time isn't on their side lets face it. If it's not out by summer a lot of people will move on. But I applaud Square for taking what time they have left to get ARR out the door and try to get it functioning. Trolls aside I don't think anyone wants to see Square fail. Specially since they have been getting huge doses of humility lately and realizing the consumer is what keeps them going.
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#7 Apr 29 2013 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
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They never announced a @#%^ing date to begin with. Smiley: mad


No, but they did give us a time line that the majority of people her have been more or less formulating and expecting.

I understand taking your time and making sure everything is a 100%, But In the real world small delays add up to big delays.

Don't get me wrong the further into summer the better for me "kids will be getting back to school more time for me to play"

There's a lot of "talk" that this might be because of the ps3 and as much as I want to play it on a console I've stated many times I would rather see it launch on the ps4 holiday season then a ps3 slash and hack piece of work that "might delay a seemingly very good game"
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Honestly I just can't imagine why anyone would be impatient for the game at this point. After the initial release, my attitude is that they should please take as much time as they need. Take two more years, if you want. Whatever you have to in order to get it right.
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Honestly I just can't imagine why anyone would be impatient for the game at this point. After the initial release, my attitude is that they should please take as much time as they need. Take two more years, if you want. Whatever you have to in order to get it right.


Absolutely. That's a mistake they can't afford to make twice.
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Catwho wrote:
They never announced a @#%^ing date to begin with. Smiley: mad




LIKE X a googol!

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Honestly I just can't imagine why anyone would be impatient for the game at this point. After the initial release, my attitude is that they should please take as much time as they need. Take two more years, if you want. Whatever you have to in order to get it right.


Absolutely. That's a mistake they can't afford to make twice.



Let's not get hasty here! 2 years would hurt my soul haha (and probably their fanbase). But yes no rush at this point.

Edited, Apr 29th 2013 7:19pm by electromagnet83
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Just give me the code at this point and I'll make the game!!!!!11!!11

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Catwho wrote:
They never announced a @#%^ing date to begin with. Smiley: mad

Hehe, I was going to respond with some long post to this. But this was just too cute haha.
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Catwho wrote:
They never announced a @#%^ing date to begin with. Smiley: mad


No, but they did give us a time line that the majority of people her have been more or less formulating and expecting.

I understand taking your time and making sure everything is a 100%, But In the real world small delays add up to big delays.

Don't get me wrong the further into summer the better for me "kids will be getting back to school more time for me to play"

There's a lot of "talk" that this might be because of the ps3 and as much as I want to play it on a console I've stated many times I would rather see it launch on the ps4 holiday season then a ps3 slash and hack piece of work that "might delay a seemingly very good game"


Trust me, I know all about IT project development and delays at this point. (My team was one of two who delivered a working project kind of sort of on schedule, and even then our client kept springing last minute requests and modifications on us. Since I was the one doing the training materials, that meant I had to screen cap the entire website three times and do 30 minutes of training videos 3-4 times to accommodate the changes.)

The timeline was rough and never set in stone. Two weeks "delay", for something that they can't really control (Sony's slow *** approval process), is nothing. (Apple sometimes makes a developer wait a year to get approval to roll out in the App Store. Just because they can.) Two months would have been within the realm of acceptability, although it would suck ***. Four months would be where I'd start to consider it a genuine and serious delay.
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It always starts with just two weeks.
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"We're releasing the game on September 22, 2010."


"Don't do it, Square! You're making a big mistake! It's not ready! PLEASE DELAY IT."

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"We're delaying the game two weeks to get you the best experience possible worthy of the Final Fantasy series"


"You don't know what you're doing! Why delays? Come on! This is disappointing."

/rolleyes




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If you actually bother to read the roadmap and if you take the max value for each phase and the periods in between, the beta won't be ending until July 8th. So far they haven't deviated much if at all from what they mapped out.
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If you are referring to me, it was sarcasm. People just like to find things to complain about.
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Phase 3 is open to everyone, correct? And phase 3 characters transfer over when the game goes live?
Do we know what transfers? Just names and likeness or completed quests, money, and levels attained?
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Phase 4 transfers over to launch.
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If you are referring to me, it was sarcasm. People just like to find things to complain about.


No, not you Smiley: smile
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Yeah all phase 3 progress will be wiped. New characters wipe and preexisting characters go back to prebeta standing.
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Phase 3 is open to everyone, correct?


That's Phase 4.

Phase 3 is supposed to be open to everyone with an FFXIV service account (whatever that means). Phase 4 is open to the unwashed masses.
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Can't wait for beta phase 3. Limsa La mUl'Dah here I come!
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That's Phase 4.

Phase 3 is supposed to be open to everyone with an FFXIV service account (whatever that means). Phase 4 is open to the unwashed masses.


Let's not forget that phase 3 also begins the invasion of we the unwashed console masses Haha!
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Phase 3 is open to everyone, correct?


That's Phase 4.

Phase 3 is supposed to be open to everyone with an FFXIV service account (whatever that means). Phase 4 is open to the unwashed masses.


Let's not forget that phase 3 also begins the invasion of we the unwashed console masses Haha!


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Well I sure am glad I stopped following the game like I was or I might have been upset by this. Now if only the Skyrim Legendary Edition release wasn't a month away as well...

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From what I have seen there are more than a few of the "unwashed" in the beta "test" already.

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Since I've chosen the "have faith" path, I'll just wait.
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I like the direction this thread is going.
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Also, they said it's going through cert with Sony, though Sony is usually very quick with that, unlike MS.

But yeah, no big deal. They released a general timeline...
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I'm just happy the time table is only being effected a week or two. I'm more concerned in general about the stability of the PS3 version. The PS3 client is gonna get very little testing time, it shoulda been out there being tested along with the PC client since phase 1. I'm not a doom and gloom kinda person but I kinda find that concerning as far as getting a working client out in a timely manner since they are pushing it out in just a few more months.
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The timeline was just an approximation and anyone who thought there wouldn't be changes/deviations must not ever have been waiting for a game before.
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Phase 4 transfers over to launch.


Is is safe to presume that Phase 4 servers will be same as live servers?
Hypothetically speaking if I create a character in phase 4 on server A, once the games goes live my character will then be on server A with all my leveling and such from phase 4?
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It's not common to retain anything from testing, even the final phase.
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Yes, let them do what they have to do. If the game fails this time it will FAIL for good.
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