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#27 May 04 2013 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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So...looks like it will be better for me to start in Limsa or Gridania, if they keep it the same. Yay for wanting to focus on Paladin and Monk as my preferred classes
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They're giving it a similar treatment, but no one's been able to play there even if they were in the beta so they can't say how it worked.


Yeah, it wasn't even available when I did the media event in Feb. I got close though, and the architecture around it (there was a city with ship building and a dock, I'll have to go through my notes to find the name) is all very similar and very nice looking indeed. Edit: Found it, Moraby Docks is the name.

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Limsa looks awesome, i always like it in 1.0, but i had to move to uldah because thats where everybody was, hopefully this will be fixed.


I agree, I really hated the way everyone gravitated to one city, we don't need another Jeuno in this game.

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Lvl 10 Arcanist seems to have like 6 abilities, and can use a shield! Well, that's what the pictures show anyhow.


Awesome deductive reasoning given that I am pretty sure that character is a Thaumaturge (even though the icons on the hotbar are not recognisable). Check out the small symbol next to the name on the top left of the screen!

Would seem about right though to have 6 abilities, 1 to start, and 1 every two levels.
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HallieXIV wrote:
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Lvl 10 Arcanist seems to have like 6 abilities, and can use a shield! Well, that's what the pictures show anyhow.


Awesome deductive reasoning given that I am pretty sure that character is a Thaumaturge (even though the icons on the hotbar are not recognisable). Check out the small symbol next to the name on the top left of the screen!

Would seem about right though to have 6 abilities, 1 to start, and 1 every two levels.


No need to be an asshat.
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Wint wrote:
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Lvl 10 Arcanist seems to have like 6 abilities, and can use a shield! Well, that's what the pictures show anyhow.


Awesome deductive reasoning given that I am pretty sure that character is a Thaumaturge (even though the icons on the hotbar are not recognisable). Check out the small symbol next to the name on the top left of the screen!

Would seem about right though to have 6 abilities, 1 to start, and 1 every two levels.


No need to be an asshat.


Apologies - absolutely meant no offense. Perhaps I should have included a smiley face. Just point out that I thought it was a Thm. (unless small logos have changed from Version 1).
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Yeah sarcasm is one of those things that doesn't translate well. I know you to be a fan of the game, so I was a bit surprised Smiley: smile

Either way, welcome back, I haven't seen you around for quite a while.


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Yeah sarcasm is one of those things that doesn't translate well. I know you to be a fan of the game, so I was a bit surprised Smiley: smile

Either way, welcome back, I haven't seen you around for quite a while.


Edited, May 4th 2013 11:12pm by Wint


Thanks Wint - I am and have generally been a fan of the game since the start. I had a bad time here at launch where opinions were not really welcome unless you hated the game (perhaps for good reason as almost everyone hated it). A few years on, thought I would come back and try to avoid any controversy this time round!!

Looking forward to this release being more successful perhaps!
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#34 May 05 2013 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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Loving the new screens!
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As someone who chose Ul'dah in 1.0 I'm stoked to see the new adjustments to the city. It looks great. I made the right choice Smiley: cool
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I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg
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I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


In gridania, which I am allowed to talk about, I turned it off completely Smiley: nod
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#38 May 06 2013 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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It reminds me of the SNES era

It looks fine. I'm also fine with them not providing multiple articulated models of each individual blade of grass to animate in sync with the weather and wind direction. That's an acceptable sacrifice to make the game playable on both the PS3 and computers that are not necessarily from space.
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Looks amazing, looking forward to it.
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Looks amazing, looking forward to it.


Agreed..for the most part but lets not be blind. That grass (which is all we are talking about here) looks pretty terrible by even the standards of a few years ago.

Here is the Archylte Steppe from FFXIII-2 on PS3


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And for comparison the grass from FFXIV 2.0 for PC.

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The grass in FFXIII-2 was beautiful*, the grass in 2.0 is not.





*Disclaimer: Obviously this level of graphics is not really possible in an mmo but it does not appear they gave the grass much attention in 2.0

Edited, May 6th 2013 11:50pm by electromagnet83
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The environments depicted in those photos are simply breath-taking. Can't wait to get the opportunity to play this game. Planning to start fresh.
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The grass in FFXIII-2 was beautiful*, the grass in 2.0 is not.


That's totally fair. Keep in mind though that FF13-2 knows exactly how many things it has to render at any given time. An mmo does not. Would you be willing to take a significant framerate hit with a few dozen players in the area just to have gorgeous grass?
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That's totally fair. Keep in mind though that FF13-2 knows exactly how many things it has to render at any given time. An mmo does not. Would you be willing to take a significant framerate hit with a few dozen players in the area just to have gorgeous grass?


I think the option depending on system specs seems reasonable.
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Killua125 wrote:
I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


No, you don’t hate to be ‘that guy.” In fact it’s the opposite, you love to be “that guy.” That’s why in every thread you take time out to figure out ways to BE “that guy.” If you hated to be “that guy” I am sure you would complain about people being “that guy” just like you complain about so many other things that have to do with FFXIV ARR..

Also.. You are taking gaming a little too seriously if your complaining about grass. You want to see great grass? Go outside. I’m sure there is some to be found somewhere out there
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I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


No, you don’t hate to be ‘that guy.” In fact it’s the opposite, you love to be “that guy.” That’s why in every thread you take time out to figure out ways to BE “that guy.” If you hated to be “that guy” I am sure you would complain about people being “that guy” just like you complain about so many other things that have to do with FFXIV ARR..

Also.. You are taking gaming a little too seriously if your complaining about grass. You want to see great grass? Go outside. I’m sure there is some to be found somewhere out there


Why are you hating because he has an opinion? That grass, which was the only thing being discussed, does look like crap. Graphics progress, its a fact, yet this is a step backwards. Dont be a fanboy, evaluate it with a little more discerning mind. That is what has enabled Yoshi to improve it so much so far. Having high standards is not a crime. Being intentionally blind for the sake of argument is.
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I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


No, you don’t hate to be ‘that guy.” In fact it’s the opposite, you love to be “that guy.” That’s why in every thread you take time out to figure out ways to BE “that guy.” If you hated to be “that guy” I am sure you would complain about people being “that guy” just like you complain about so many other things that have to do with FFXIV ARR..

Also.. You are taking gaming a little too seriously if your complaining about grass. You want to see great grass? Go outside. I’m sure there is some to be found somewhere out there


Why are you hating because he has an opinion? That grass, which was the only thing being discussed, does look like crap. Graphics progress, its a fact, yet this is a step backwards. Dont be a fanboy, evaluate it with a little more discerning mind. That is what has enabled Yoshi to improve it so much so far. Having high standards is not a crime. Being intentionally blind for the sake of argument is.


You guys are ******** about the quality of the grass...the game looks amazing and you're unhappy with the grass?
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Who knows what state the grass is in anyway. Perhaps it's placeholder grass? Perhaps they're waiting to drop a bomb on all of us with how awesome the grass is going to be, but they just haven't gotten it in there yet? Perhaps paying attention the grass in one shot is just a bit too **** for anyone's taste, too? Seriously, if you're not going to buy/play/enjoy the game because of the way it renders the grass then I'm happy to let you live with that decision. Sure, we're all here chatting about a game in an information vacuum, but you don't have to over-analyze the smallest little thing to make conversation. Responding to this thread is counter-intuitive for me, but you have to chill about the grass. Cool your jets over a random shot of the flora and wait patiently like the rest of us.
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My god the grass THE GRASS how am i supposed to play a game if the GRASS looks like that!! huh?!

When i log in my MMO since i am a no lifer i want to spend my morning while looking to the grass and feeling (well my character) the small breeze. So what am i supposed to do if the freekin grass looks like that!! GOD!!

That aside i understand that some people would like everything to look great. That is understandable and acceptable especially in the MMO gender. But seriously? You take the **** grass under so much consideration? Or are you worried that the overall graphics won't be nice?If its the later you only need to take a look at the rest of the screenshots. Personally seeing those i would say the game rocks in the graphics section (but then again i was never into super uber graphics, i prefer content over graphics). Others might disagree and i saw some saying that they are worse than 1.0, that might be true i don't know but you know what? I also don't care because the difference at least to my un trained eye is not that big and i do not take under so much consideration the **** grass.


Let the down-rate begin! Smiley: lolSmiley: lol
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#49 May 07 2013 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
The grass has been debated for a long time. Started back on the official forums back when the initial screenshots were released. When that's what people nitpick about, you've done a goos job.
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Wint wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
AlexandEric wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


No, you don’t hate to be ‘that guy.” In fact it’s the opposite, you love to be “that guy.” That’s why in every thread you take time out to figure out ways to BE “that guy.” If you hated to be “that guy” I am sure you would complain about people being “that guy” just like you complain about so many other things that have to do with FFXIV ARR..

Also.. You are taking gaming a little too seriously if your complaining about grass. You want to see great grass? Go outside. I’m sure there is some to be found somewhere out there


Why are you hating because he has an opinion? That grass, which was the only thing being discussed, does look like crap. Graphics progress, its a fact, yet this is a step backwards. Dont be a fanboy, evaluate it with a little more discerning mind. That is what has enabled Yoshi to improve it so much so far. Having high standards is not a crime. Being intentionally blind for the sake of argument is.


You guys are ******** about the quality of the grass...the game looks amazing and you're unhappy with the grass?


I don't really care about the grass...I turned it off (problem solved). I am however supporting his point. Yes, in fact, the grass looks terrible. It's not a debate or opinion, by today's standards it looks sad. But, again, that was merely a statement made by the Killua to which many replied "no it doesn't" basically. It does. Sure the game looks great, I love it so far. The grass looks like crap. That won't stop me from playing, it's just an observation Killua made, that I agree with, that everyone immediately began flaming like we were heretics. Settle down folks. We are entitled to an observation about a specific aspect of the game, that's why these screens are released.


Edited, May 7th 2013 2:02pm by electromagnet83
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electromagnet83 wrote:
AlexandEric wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
I hate to be "that guy", but what's going on with the grass in this screenshot?

It reminds me of the SNES era. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/920919_10151637896505871_1876398806_o.jpg


No, you don’t hate to be ‘that guy.” In fact it’s the opposite, you love to be “that guy.” That’s why in every thread you take time out to figure out ways to BE “that guy.” If you hated to be “that guy” I am sure you would complain about people being “that guy” just like you complain about so many other things that have to do with FFXIV ARR..

Also.. You are taking gaming a little too seriously if your complaining about grass. You want to see great grass? Go outside. I’m sure there is some to be found somewhere out there


Why are you hating because he has an opinion? That grass, which was the only thing being discussed, does look like crap. Graphics progress, its a fact, yet this is a step backwards. Dont be a fanboy, evaluate it with a little more discerning mind. That is what has enabled Yoshi to improve it so much so far. Having high standards is not a crime. Being intentionally blind for the sake of argument is.


Firstly I never said the grass had good or bad quality.. I also dont care about people stating their opinion even if it is exaggerated. What I take issue with is that fact that people feel the need to take a crap on other peoples excitement and then try to brush it off with that standard phrase,"OH, I hate to be that guy buuuuut.." When clearly you love to be "that guy.." The quality of the grass was not the issue. So please evaluate, with a more discerning mind, just how invalid your response was. Oh and hey, look! You got the pleasure of calling someone a fanboy! Congrats :D ...
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