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#77 May 19 2013 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.
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#78 May 19 2013 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Ostia wrote:
Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.

It's perception no matter what word is used. Usually offensive becomes so when a remark made strikes close to home of a person's perception of themselves. If I walk up to you and tell you that you have a big head, move to the side. The shadow of your head is blotting out the sun. The words itself are just a statement. If you are self conscious about the size of your head, it's taken offensively. If you are not self conscious about the size of your head. You would start laughing and say I am absurd.

Even the most derogatory/abusive/antagonizing remarks aimed towards you, hold little substance if you have a high self esteem and are loving. The only time perception wouldn't matter much is when those remarks are aimed towards someone close and dear to you. You have to protect the honor and safety of your loved ones.
#79 May 19 2013 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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All I'm going to say is, some of you guys need to find a comfy pair of shorts, sit in a lawn chair outside with some reggae on. Pop open a beer or enjoy a blended frozen drink. Smile, guys. ^^
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#80 May 19 2013 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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In Ostia's case Im pretty sure offending is the intention. If I tell him "you are an *******," thats offensive whether he takes offense or not. It's incompetent communication, Ostia's specialty.
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In Ostia's case Im pretty sure offending is the intention. If I tell him "you are an @#%^," thats offensive whether he takes offense or not. It's incompetent communication, Ostia's specialty.

Often the person issuing remarks may not be coming from an offending or superior intention. Sometimes they come from a position of feeling threatened or of lesser standing. The remarks are made out of impulse from feeling emotionally triggered or an attempt to level the standing between two people.

Like when animals feel threatened they growl, bark and posture. It's the emotionally centered ones like a lion that are the most dangerous lol. They do not posture. When they get triggered, it's not on impulse, watch out!
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You could tell by uematsu's comments that he wasnt given that much time to do it in, and he didnt getvto play the zones like he usually does before composing the theme. He had writer's block then quickly finished it as the deadline was near. They gave him pictures of the terrain to get the feeling.

Given the generic copypasta terrain back then....he sortof hit the nail on the head with the corresponding music.

But yeah the music was phoned in. I did like the rock guitar battle music though XD
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#83 May 19 2013 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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From what we've heard so far, I think Soken is doing an amazing job with the soundtrack. I'm really hoping Naoshi Mizuta can get a few tracks in for release. His approach to the OST in FFXI was brilliant--the songs never got old. Except...Whitegate's music. The only part of that song I enjoyed was those few moments of silence, to be honest. I tried to hang around in Nashmau as much as possible to avoid it.
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#84 May 19 2013 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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From what we've heard so far, I think Soken is doing an amazing job with the soundtrack. I'm really hoping Naoshi Mizuta can get a few tracks in for release. His approach to the OST in FFXI was brilliant--the songs never got old. Except...Whitegate's music. The only part of that song I enjoyed was those few moments of silence, to be honest. I tried to hang around in Nashmau as much as possible to avoid it.


I LOVED the FFXI music. I can still hum ronfaure's theme...and I havent played in years
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Definitely agree with you on that. Bastok was my home, so Gustaberg will always have a special place for me. I used to go chill out in Xarcabard for the music when I just wanted to get away from everything. I think Soken's tracks have that "reborn" feeling that won't get old.
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#86Ostia, Posted: May 19 2013 at 4:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol
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And here I thought we had changed the subject to something relevant...I give up.
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Sigh.

They really need to release some serious info so this grade school bickering can end.
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Agreed. I believe the devs mentioned we're due for more information tomorrow, the 20th. I'm hoping we hear something.
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#90 May 19 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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I basically have no choice here..

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I basically have no choice here..



That about sums it up.
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#92 May 19 2013 at 5:38 PM Rating: Default
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There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.
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#93 May 19 2013 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol

GG Noob!


*relaxed sigh* Another breathtaking example of Ostia's stellar, example - based argument style. Please sir, do elaborate.
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Ostia wrote:
There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.



I eagerly anticipate how you will somehow use said info to start an argument and then flame all who try to apply logic to it.
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#95 May 19 2013 at 7:17 PM Rating: Default
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electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.



I eagerly anticipate how you will somehow use said info to start an argument and then flame all who try to apply logic to it.


You should not worry then, never have we ever worried about logic and you being in the same thread.
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Ostia wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.



I eagerly anticipate how you will somehow use said info to start an argument and then flame all who try to apply logic to it.


You should not worry then, never have we ever worried about logic and you being in the same thread.


That was hilarious from like a "I just zinged you" point of view, I'll concede that fact. But who said I am the one applying the logic? Besides, I find my illogical way of thinking entertaining.
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#97 May 20 2013 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
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Ostia wrote:
IKickYoDog wrote:
Ostia wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.


You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol

GG Noob!



It is comical dat da only shot a forum post dun gota makin to more den 100 post is if it bust out inta a ***** arguement.

Edited, May 20th 2013 10:58am by je355804

Edited, May 20th 2013 10:58am by je355804
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je355804 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
IKickYoDog wrote:
Ostia wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.


You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol

GG Noob!



It is comical that the only chance a forum post has of making it to 100+ posts around here is if the conversation breaks down into a tit-for-tat argument.


God **** you for not making any grammar or spelling errors. Doing so would have allowed me to make a comical retort in which I called you a noob and corrected it like spell checker.

Edited, May 20th 2013 10:52am by Louiscool
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Louiscool wrote:
je355804 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
IKickYoDog wrote:
Ostia wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.


You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol

GG Noob!



It is comical that the only chance a forum post has of making it to 100+ posts around here is if the conversation breaks down into a tit-for-tat argument.


God **** you for not making any grammar or spelling errors. Doing so would have allowed me to make a comical retort in which I called you a noob and corrected it like spell checker.

Edited, May 20th 2013 10:52am by Louiscool



Perhaps you should read my post again Smiley: dubious
#100 May 20 2013 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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je355804 wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
je355804 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
IKickYoDog wrote:
Ostia wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Also noob is not offensive, if you find the word noob to be offensive, you should have no hand in gaming at all, specially online.... As for the word idiot, idiot on itself is not offensive, if somebody is being an idiot, you should be able to call them an idiot. Now if you where just talking about something and i come out of nowhere and call you an idiot because of giggles, then sir you have every right to be offended etc etc.


I think you need to reevaluate what the word offensive means, because whatever definition you think it means is not the actual one. Just because you don't think something is offensive doesn't mean others don't think it's offensive.


Offensive is subjective, you can be offensive by using names, as much as you can be offensive using no names, but the word "Noob" is not offensive, on any dictionary. You are just soft.


Bolded the only part of your argument that makes any sense. Unfortunately, you obviously don't understand the very vocabulary you have chosen to use. As stated, offense is perceived in the mind of the receiver. If an African-american calls another African-american the N-word (not noob), more times than not it is not considered offensive becuase they don't feel offended. If I, a white man, were to use the N-word in front of an African-american it would be considered highly offensive because the other person perceives it as offensive.


You just made my argument for me Smiley: lol Good thing i am the only one that does not understands the vocabulary around here..... Oh Wait! Smiley: lol

GG Noob!



It is comical that the only chance a forum post has of making it to 100+ posts around here is if the conversation breaks down into a tit-for-tat argument.


God **** you for not making any grammar or spelling errors. Doing so would have allowed me to make a comical retort in which I called you a noob and corrected it like spell checker.

Edited, May 20th 2013 10:52am by Louiscool



Perhaps you should read my post again Smiley: dubious


When you see it?

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It is comical dat da only shot a forum post dun gota makin to more den 100 post is if it bust out inta a ***** arguement.


Smiley: lol

Edited, May 20th 2013 11:15am by Louiscool
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electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.



I eagerly anticipate how you will somehow use said info to start an argument and then flame all who try to apply logic to it.


You should not worry then, never have we ever worried about logic and you being in the same thread.


That was hilarious from like a "I just zinged you" point of view, I'll concede that fact. But who said I am the one applying the logic? Besides, I find my illogical way of thinking entertaining.


Hey if it makes you happy, who am i to judge ?
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