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#1 May 14 2013 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I am currently in the market for a new monitor, and I know that more than a few of you are fairly tech savvy.

I'm looking for a monitor that is around 24 inches for under $200. My video card has an HDMI port and 2 DVI ports (1 single, 1 dual). Ideally I would like this monitor to have either 1 or 2 HDMI Ports so I can hook up a console without having to unhook anything.

Here's the monitor I've been leaning towards after a short time looking around for $180.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

This was my conclusion based on Response time(1ms), Screen Size, Resolution, 2 HDMI ports, and it having built in speakers.
Under the power supply it mentions 50/60hz, is this the refresh rate? Does this mean that the monitor won't properly display framerates over 60? With my current monitor, if I don't have V-sync on and go over 60 fps the game looks pretty choppy as if it is 30fps or less. Can I get a 120hz monitor at a comparable price? How big is the difference?

Here is a 144hz 3d monitor for $270 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313&IsVirtualParent=1 . Is that overkill?

Also, how do HDTVs compare to monitors for gaming? I like to play a lot of old school games on my ps1/ps2 and it would be wonderful to be able to hook them up to my display instead of whipping out my old 13 inch TV. I know you can buy stuff to convert composite to HDMI and the like, but it seems overly expensive.

I would much appreciate any feedback on picking the right monitor for gaming. My current desk setup doesn't afford me much room for anything over 24''. Feel free to link me any potentials and lead me in the direction of sites with better deals. I used Newegg when I built my computer because the other couple sites I looked at had the same prices and a smaller selection.

Edit: hmm, i seem to have found a selection of Samsung monitor+TV combos for a decent price, here's one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001810

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I'd actually recommend against built in speakers if you have any kind of desk space whatsoever. The sound quality will be closer to laptop sound than what you'd get from even a relatively inexpensive two PC speaker set.

And if you have a crap ton of desk real estate like I do with my massive Ikea desk, then get two slightly smaller 1080p monitors and a monitor stand to marry them together.
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Catwho wrote:
I'd actually recommend against built in speakers if you have any kind of desk space whatsoever. The sound quality will be closer to laptop sound than what you'd get from even a relatively inexpensive two PC speaker set.

And if you have a crap ton of desk real estate like I do with my massive Ikea desk, then get two slightly smaller 1080p monitors and a monitor stand to marry them together.


I don't have much desk space, a 24 inch monitor will probably only give me 6-8 inches of width to work with. The built-in speakers will mostly be for the PS3 so I don't have to unhook my speakers from the back of my PC and plug them into my monitor.


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i would also say my tv works quiet well
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DamienSScott wrote:
Catwho wrote:
I'd actually recommend against built in speakers if you have any kind of desk space whatsoever. The sound quality will be closer to laptop sound than what you'd get from even a relatively inexpensive two PC speaker set.

And if you have a crap ton of desk real estate like I do with my massive Ikea desk, then get two slightly smaller 1080p monitors and a monitor stand to marry them together.


I don't have much desk space, a 24 inch monitor will probably only give me 6-8 inches of width to work with. The built-in speakers will mostly be for the PS3 so I don't have to unhook my speakers from the back of my PC and plug them into my monitor.


Edited, May 14th 2013 7:32pm by DamienSScott


You need to build a desk like I did Smiley: grin

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#7 May 14 2013 at 7:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to build a desk like I did Smiley: grin

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I've actually quit beer and switched to bourbon Smiley: tongue

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Wint wrote:
You need to build a desk like I did Smiley: grin

http://i.imgur.com/5QBNFLc.jpg


That is indeed quite smexy, however my desk is right next to my bed and space is an issue on all fronts.

Well since I'm not really getting any helpful responses (no offense) I'm just going to narrow it down myself. After watching some videos I honestly don't think I can tell the difference between 60 and 120hz (if you can even tell by watching a video of a monitor on a 60hz monitor). I don't really feel like spending nearly $300 on a monitor anyway.

I'll probably just stick with one of the 170ish ASUS models. Now if only there wern't 10 models that all seem the same >.>
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How do you set the game up to run on 3 monitors with your characters in the middle and more view of your surroundings on the left and right monitors? I saw a picture but Ive never set one up before. I was really wanting this setup for ARR shortly after I buy my compter. Is their a certain computer I have to buy to have this special funcotion.. or what? Any help is appreciated
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Usually the Crossfire/SLI software will handle it for you. You'd need 2 graphics cards at the minimum I should think.
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Here is 1.0 running on Eyefinity

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DamienSScott wrote:

Wint wrote:
You need to build a desk like I did Smiley: grin

http://i.imgur.com/5QBNFLc.jpg


That is indeed quite smexy, however my desk is right next to my bed and space is an issue on all fronts.

Well since I'm not really getting any helpful responses (no offense) I'm just going to narrow it down myself. After watching some videos I honestly don't think I can tell the difference between 60 and 120hz (if you can even tell by watching a video of a monitor on a 60hz monitor). I don't really feel like spending nearly $300 on a monitor anyway.

I'll probably just stick with one of the 170ish ASUS models. Now if only there wern't 10 models that all seem the same >.>



I'm no monitor expert, but here is a thread that may help you decide or at the very least clarify the differences...
http://www.overclock.net/t/662628/60hz-vs-120hz-explained
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Regarding TRUE 120hz Computer Monitors and Future TRUE 120hz HDTV Displays



[Regarding TRUE 120hz monitors, (and future TRUE 120hz LCD HDTVs) these displays will indeed improve your gaming experience (few exceptions). Because the screen is refreshing 120 times a second, the image projected will seem smoother and decrease tearing, even when gaming at below 60fps. Note though when gaming at a frame rate of exactly 60fps (vsync on at 60), 120hz LCD HDTVs and TRUE 120hz monitors should theoretically perform identically (both displays refreshing 120 times a second and repeating each frame once at 60fps). More information is being outputted to your eyes at 120hz even if it's just repeating frames, making the experience seem smoother. Don't forget though, to truly see the benefits of a TRUE 120hz monitor, you must be gaming at an average FPS greater than 60(ideally over 120fps). When your average frame rate is above 60(for this example let’s say you are averaging 120fps), you WILL see the in between frames that a 60hz monitor could not display. For a list of TRUE 120hz monitors, see nvidia's page on monitors that are compatible with their 3d technology.]
[Note though, video card solutions that are recommended for 60Hz 2560x1600, will not perform as well at 1920x1080 @120hz due to the amount of information that needs to be processed. In other words, it’s more taxing on a GPU to display 1920x1080 @120hz than 2560x1600 at 60hz. You will need one heck of a powerful GPU solution to see all the benefits of 1920x1080 @120hz. Beyond this resolution, at this high a refresh rate, dual link DVI will no longer have enough bandwidth to broadcast a signal to a monitor. As this point we'll have to move to a more advanced cable method like Display port (seen on a lot of the new HD 5xxx series cards).]


What I gathered from this is if you have a 120hz monitor you better have a powerful gpu that puts out 120fps to see any benefit. And I dont think your console will put out 120fps either so IMO just go with a 60hz monitor that can run 1080p
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Wint wrote:
Here is 1.0 running on Eyefinity

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That is sooo ****.. That is exactly what I want.. So I need SLI and two graphics cards? Guess im looking at over 1k machine huh.. lol
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Wint wrote:
Here is 1.0 running on Eyefinity



That is sooo ****.. That is exactly what I want.. So I need SLI and two graphics cards? Guess im looking at over 1k machine huh.. lol


I really don't know much about Eyefinity, hopefully someone else can answer that. SLI would require that plus 3 monitors.
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What I gathered from this is if you have a 120hz monitor you better have a powerful gpu that puts out 120fps to see any benefit. And I dont think your console will put out 120fps either so IMO just go with a 60hz monitor that can run 1080p


Thank you for that info. I'm getting around 90-120 fps in games like Diablo III and Guild Wars 2 at 1440x900 with max settings, so I'm guessing that forking over the extra cash for a 120hz 1080p monitor probably won't be worth it. Now my decision will have to be between a regular monitor or one with composite ports for my older consoles. I don't think a PC could capture gameplay on a different "TV/monitor channel" so I might just have to find another way to play older games on my PC if i wan't to record/stream footage.
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Also, how do HDTVs compare to monitors for gaming? I like to play a lot of old school games on my ps1/ps2 and it would be wonderful to be able to hook them up to my display instead of whipping out my old 13 inch TV.



Not sure if this will help you but will offer my input on HDTV's. I currently run 2 HDTV with my pc (42" 1080p and a 32" 720p). With my old card the gts 250 they both worked great in the games I played both WoW and FFxi. At the time I thought it looked great. Upgrade to the 660ti and the picture is outstanding. The card comes with 1 hdmi port and 2 dvi. The 32" when I bought it was a little over 1k. My 42" everyone at my old work place won this due to our store winning a division content. To buy it out right was over 1.2k.

Trying to compare monitors to TV's. I guess it comes down to user preference, amount of space they have, amount of money they have to spend to buy. Other people may have a different opinion about HDTV's so tossing my experience out there to try and help you decide. With looking in the $200 price range that might limit what there is available in HDTV with a size you looking for. Not sure being I got one with money from a investment and other won in a contest.
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Yeah, I glanced at Newegg's HDTV selection and found it to be lacking for my purposes. I think I've settled on an ASUS monitor. They seem to have great specs and are within my tolerable price range. I know a couple friends that have HDTV setups for their PCs that work well, granted they are 35''+ screens.

Thanks for the input.
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Hey have you checked out any other brands? I'm an Asus fan myself. Tablet, motherboard, 18 in laptop etc.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-D2343P-BN-23-Inch-Monitor/dp/B008MM5G84/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

You might find it interesting. I tested the 3d on 1.0 and it worked very well. Not sure if you're into that.
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#21 May 14 2013 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
This company BenQ Is supposed to make the epitome of gaming monitors followed of course by the Asus.


BenQ Announces Launch of All New XL2720T Professional Gaming Monitor
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You should ask Yoshi-P, he's using ALL THE MONITORS. Smiley: lol
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I think I've narrowed it down to two monitors. One is an IPS panel with 5ms refresh rate, the other is a TN panel with 1ms. Does anyone have experience with both types of panels? I know I could certainly use the wider view angle of the IPS when laying in bed with the lady-friend watching stuff. However I wouldn't want to sacrifice SRS BZNZ gaming by having a higher refresh rate. From what little I've seen I don't think that the 5ms will effect me and my gaming habits too much. I don't really ever play multiplayer FPSs, although I might pick one up eventually to appease aforementioned lady-friend.

As for BenQ and 3D capabilities, both are out of my price range at the moment. 3D seems awesome, but I doubt it would be something I could stomach using enough to warrant buying. I would love nothing more than to go all out on the bells and whistles but I have other things I need to be saving that money for.
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I think 5 ms is fine unless you've got money to burn for the 1ms.

I think about monitors the same way I think about speakers. Yeah, I could drop hundreds of dollars for some unparalleled uber experience. And I know that if I'm listening to $11 speakers, or watching stuff on a CRT monitor, I'm not going to enjoy the experience at all. However, I'm content to be in the happy medium. I spent $54 on my speakers, and $110 each on my dual monitors. They don't have the greatest specs.... but they work well and honestly even if I could detect the difference, I'd be hard pressed to quantify it.
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That is sooo ****.. That is exactly what I want.. So I need SLI and two graphics cards? Guess im looking at over 1k machine huh.. lol


I really don't know much about Eyefinity, hopefully someone else can answer that. SLI would require that plus 3 monitors.


I am running 3 27" Dell U2711 @2560x1440 with eyefinity. I used this for 1.0 and with maxed resolution (something like 7680x1440) I had to tune down some of the graphics options, but I ran it fine at around medium specs and that was with 1 overclocked ATI 7970 GPU. Performance depends on games too I mean, I ran FFXIV fine at max resolution meduim settings, but I just had to lower the resolution when trying to play BF3.

You don't need to SLI/Crossfire two cards as long as you use a good single GPU for eyefinity (for Final fantasy), especially if you run it at lower resolution than I did, but it helps of course. One thing though and I could be wrong on this, but I doubt it is very good for the GPUs longevity to push it to its limits constantly. I plan on putting in a second GPU @ ARR release, partly because of the high resolution I run at, but also because I would like to really max out ARR settings.

As for built in speakers I agree with Catwho tbh, there are regular speakers that come pretty cheap and compared to the built in ones the sound is just so much better. I personally use headphones which is always an option too.

When it comes to TN vs IPS I've had both and I much prefer the IPS panel for several reasons, but if nothing else just because of the color. The response time is low enough on both types now that it generally (and by that I mean for most people) doesn't matter. I have to say I think it is more a relic of the past when the difference was actually quite big and reponse times were overall much higher. I think I read somewhere that below 12ms the eye has trouble seeing a difference so unless you are very sensitive or going pro at FPS I doubt you'd suffer from choosing a IPS with 5ms over 1 or 2ms TN panel. Whether the >12ms thing is true or not I don't know, but I doubt you'll be unhappy over the reponse time if you decide to go with an IPS panel.
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It really just depends on how much you care about the picture quality and what not. 4-5 years ago I bought this i-inc (hanspree), 27 inch monitor for 180$ and it's been nothing but great for me. AOC also makes some pretty good bang for the buck monitors if you check out tigerdirect.com (.ca if in canada). Do I notice a difference in a higher quality monitor? Absolutely. Do I notice it if there's nothing else around it to compare it to? Not really.

These things are becoming like TV's, it's getting hard to differentiate them if they're all LED. Got my parents a 400$ 42inch LG LED for Christmas, and I honestly can't tell much of a difference in picture quality vs a higher end tv. The pricier ones definitely have more options and what not, but picture quality seems to be getting pretty **** good across the board.
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It really just depends on how much you care about the picture quality and what not. 4-5 years ago I bought this i-inc (hanspree), 27 inch monitor for 180$ and it's been nothing but great for me. AOC also makes some pretty good bang for the buck monitors if you check out tigerdirect.com (.ca if in canada). Do I notice a difference in a higher quality monitor? Absolutely. Do I notice it if there's nothing else around it to compare it to? Not really.

These things are becoming like TV's, it's getting hard to differentiate them if they're all LED. Got my parents a 400$ 42inch LG LED for Christmas, and I honestly can't tell much of a difference in picture quality vs a higher end tv. The pricier ones definitely have more options and what not, but picture quality seems to be getting pretty **** good across the board.


The monitor I currently have is a 19'' 1440x900 Hannspree, I bought it off my friend's mom for $20 and it has been awesome (especially considering it is the first HD display I've owned. I think she bought 4-5 of them dirt cheap on Black Friday a few years back. I plan on giving it to my lady-friend once she is ready for me to build her a PC.


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I think 5 ms is fine unless you've got money to burn for the 1ms.

I think about monitors the same way I think about speakers. Yeah, I could drop hundreds of dollars for some unparalleled uber experience. And I know that if I'm listening to $11 speakers, or watching stuff on a CRT monitor, I'm not going to enjoy the experience at all. However, I'm content to be in the happy medium. I spent $54 on my speakers, and $110 each on my dual monitors. They don't have the greatest specs.... but they work well and honestly even if I could detect the difference, I'd be hard pressed to quantify it.


The two monitors I'm looking at are $171 (5ms IPS panel) and $180 (1ms TN panel) so there isn't really much of a difference.
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Well I settled on this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

It had the features I wanted, plus an extra audio cable and DVI to HDMI cable so I won't have to purchase either.

I also picked up a much needed 1TB Western Digital HDD and a Decently cheap 720p logitech webcam.

Spending another $300 on my rig hurts, guess I'm up to about $1400 total now. ARR better be worth it grrrr.

Edited, May 15th 2013 9:29pm by DamienSScott
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DamienSScott wrote:
Well I settled on this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

I also picked up a much needed 1TB Western Digital HDD and a Decently cheap 720p logitech webcam.


I've owned a couple pairs of Asus monitors and later sold them each time I upgraded (to more Asus). They've always been good monitors. Good decision
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I've owned a couple pairs of Asus monitors and later sold them each time I upgraded (to more Asus). They've always been good monitors. Good decision


Yeah, ASUS seems to make quality products in the lower to mid price range, perfect for me.
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Maybe Yoshi-P should give us a monitor review. No, seriously, could be interesting since he's actually trying all the monitors at the same time with same output on them all.
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Well, I just got my monitor today. It's pretty awesome after some tweaking, might have to do a bit more later tonight. I accidentally locked the buttons on it and had to figure out how to unlock them... fun stuff XD. I had a bit of screen tearing in Borderlands 2, but I turned on Triple Buffering in the AMD Catalyst Control Center and that seemed to fix it.
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#33 May 20 2013 at 10:24 PM Rating: Good
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DamienSScott wrote:
Well, I just got my monitor today. It's pretty awesome after some tweaking, might have to do a bit more later tonight. I accidentally locked the buttons on it and had to figure out how to unlock them... fun stuff XD. I had a bit of screen tearing in Borderlands 2, but I turned on Triple Buffering in the AMD Catalyst Control Center and that seemed to fix it.


I get screen tearing on many games. I usually set Nvidia Control panel to Vsync on at all times. Fixes any issues as well. Glad you are liking your monitor.
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