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#1 May 15 2013 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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Since the partial nda lift, I've sort of wondered if it was finally cool for people to say whether or not they were beta testers. I remember Wint blamming a few threads because of it. So, what's the official word on this?
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#2 May 15 2013 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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I don't believe there's been an official word. But, around here, if someone is talking about their opinions of the things to do around Gridania, chances are they're a beta tester. There's nothing wrong with making that known. You don't need to wear a sign that says you are, or to make an announcement.
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Yeah, I believe the partial lift pretty much includes mentioning you were, but it's a super thin line.

Like saying "I was a beta tester, trust me" is practically breaking nda when discussing opinions outside of character creation or gridania. I would just stay on the side of caution.
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Yeah you can say you're in the beta, and you're allowed to talk about what you've seen withing the confines of the Character Creator and within the walls of Gridania itself. No combat or other things that are available outside of Grid.
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#6 May 15 2013 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
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I'm in beta



And now your not! J/K!
#7 May 15 2013 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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I will say : Beta 100% changed my mind about this game. As skeptical as I was Im just iching for it to be released!
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sooooo... knowing what can and can't be spoken about... how in depth is the creator? and what sort of marvelous and wonderful things await me in Grid? ive been wondering and just didnt ask for the sake of others not getting into any **** for it... but knowing what was said id love to hear what the beta folks have to say about these things in detail if any of you mind sharing...
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#9 May 15 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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I will say : Beta 100% changed my mind about this game. As skeptical as I was Im just iching for it to be released!


This.

Just the prospect of beta phase 3 is.. ugh this wait suuux
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sooooo... knowing what can and can't be spoken about... how in depth is the creator? and what sort of marvelous and wonderful things await me in Grid? ive been wondering and just didnt ask for the sake of others not getting into any sh*t for it... but knowing what was said id love to hear what the beta folks have to say about these things in detail if any of you mind sharing...


There's a whole bunch of info about both in this thread. Enjoy!
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sooooo... knowing what can and can't be spoken about... how in depth is the creator? and what sort of marvelous and wonderful things await me in Grid? ive been wondering and just didnt ask for the sake of others not getting into any sh*t for it... but knowing what was said id love to hear what the beta folks have to say about these things in detail if any of you mind sharing...


I'll keep this short. My personal thoughts on Character creation was that it is very limited. There are a TON of options, but all of the options are extremely "subtle" changing your character's appearance in a small way. You won't find cheek bone, chest size, leg size, eye spacing, mouth height, hair length/height sliders and the sort like you might find on many other games. You'll find "jaw shape" and "eye shape" or "nose type" and "character height", but all display changes in a very subtle way.
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I'm thinking the character creation may be limited so that we don't have any of these running around. S-E likes their pretty characters.
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That is true in a way. It doesn't let you take customization of your character to the next level. I had that kind of level in eve online but to be honest it felt pointless. Many people put a lot of time to customize their character but so "in depth" is lost to me. I liked the simple choices it gave me to be honest. But hey i even liked the really REALLY limited options back in WoW so yea.


Besides that i wouldn't say no to a chest size option....if you know what i mean! Smiley: sly
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I'm thinking the character creation may be limited so that we don't have any of these running around. S-E likes their pretty characters.



Lol True. I don't personally mind it. But that's not to say many others won't be disappointed.
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I quit WoW once I got my beta invite. Was hooked right at the creation screen with the customization options. Have no plans to resub for WoW in the foreseeable future and i can't wait for ARR.
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tried to play WoW, SC2 and planetside 2, but the more I played the more I realized that it couldn't give me the fix I needed =(

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Bear in mind that the Phase 2 character creator had many options locked. Hopefully we'll get a few more choices in Phase 3.
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Catwho wrote:
Bear in mind that the Phase 2 character creator had many options locked. Hopefully we'll get a few more choices in Phase 3.


It wasn't the amount of options that was lacking. There were actually quite a few. It was the amount of change that came with those options that was the problem. Way too subtle, all the chins, the eyebrows, the eyes, etc,....they all look almost the same.

edit: ...and now I'm out of love



Edited, May 15th 2013 7:54pm by electromagnet83
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correct me if i'm wrong... but doesn't the road map say that as the beta gets farther into its phases that more creator options will be available? so maybe there holding out on us a lil in seeing changes for now...
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correct me if i'm wrong... but doesn't the road map say that as the beta gets farther into its phases that more creator options will be available? so maybe there holding out on us a lil in seeing changes for now...


Possibly, but read my post above. My intention there is not to criticize it but to merely state the facts and hopefully set a realistic expectation in peoples' minds. Don't expect to be totally blown away by customization, that's all.
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So basically the first time you log on, presuming you start a new character, you'll spend an hour or so getting your character to look just right. I know I will.

Your one character can do all the jobs so it won't be like having a bunch of alts you can play with, s/he has to look just right upon creation.

..Seriously, I cannot wait for ARR..
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Bear in mind that the Phase 2 character creator had many options locked. Hopefully we'll get a few more choices in Phase 3.


It wasn't the amount of options that was lacking. There were actually quite a few. It was the amount of change that came with those options that was the problem. Way too subtle, all the chins, the eyebrows, the eyes, etc,....they all look almost the same.

edit: ...and now I'm out of love


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Actually, you do have the option to change chest size on the female characters.
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Wait,....Why didn't i see *********** it, spend too much time with the length of the tail that i didn't see that!
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Atkascha wrote:
I'm thinking the character creation may be limited so that we don't have any of these running around. S-E likes their pretty characters.


I wish they would add weight to the list of customizable options. We have height, and muscle tone, but there is no weight or build option. I played a "fat" guy tank in SWTOR and it seemed so fitting. A tank should in my eyes look like he is able to absorb a few blows and, whether its true or not, it seems like a bigger guy would do better for this. Or even for casters it could be fitting. In real life the stereotypical brainiac bookworm type, who would be the intelligent magic users in mmo's, are either super lanky or very "healthy". I just think it would be fun and offer an aesthetic that would really be obvious as opposed to some of the more subtle ones that are available. Very few will probably notice that tiny little beauty mark on your characters cheek but if you could customize your weight it would be one option in character creation that would make a very visible impact on your champion.
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Actually, you do have the option to change chest size on the female characters.



Yea none for males (like build size) and even the bust for females again is subtle. We can can take them from about a C cup to C.35 cup. Not that I care about game boob size, that's just a concrete example of the subtlety of most of the in-game changes.
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If this turns into another boob size discussion like the last one I'm locking this, fair warning.
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Welp that about seals our fate
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Wow, this thread has gone completely off the mark from the OP, lol. Anyway, in response to another poster, if you want a different build of character, that's what the different races are for. You could have a Highlander or Roe if you want a big tank guy to fit the RP. In Japanese games with character customization (White Knight Chronicles comes to mind), there's not really a lot of versatility like in Western games. Saints Row the Third is pretty outrageous with the options, which fits the theme that the game is a satire of GTA and all of its knockoffs.
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