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#1 May 20 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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...It might be too early to know, but does ARR have audio chat? Or is there only typing for communicating with people? I know TeamSpeak and Vent would be a work around for PC users but how will PC users communicate with PS3 users? Typing only?
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#2 May 20 2013 at 11:32 AM Rating: Default
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Hmm Good Question! I am not 100% sure, but maybe you can use adhoc room and talk ? i used to for MH3
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I really wish they would, but I doubt it. Given how many complaints we had in 1.0 over lag, I'm sure they are trying their best to minimize server stress.

It would be nice though, in a dream world, to have it built into the client. At least if they would allow you to add in your vent server into your LS or Free company, and have people connect to it without having to give out the port, the password, the server address, then go to another window, or download vent if your a diehard mumbler or whatever.
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I don't believe it will have a build in one. Well at least i didn't read anything about it. My best bet would be a ts server or vent either way. The work around would be a laptop with the ts in it while you play in the ps3. Other than that as we discussed in a different thread someone mentioned that there are team speak and ventrilo apps for ios smartphones and android. I used the teamspeak one so i know it is working.
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Ha... Just check the Apple App Store and there are clients for both Vent and TS. Who'da thunk it? I guess that would be a work around for PS3ers

Edited, May 20th 2013 1:53pm by BluntmanII
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Mumble ftw.
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Ha... Just check the Apple App Store and there are clients for both Vent and TS. Who'da thunk it? I guess that would be a work around for PS3ers

Edited, May 20th 2013 1:53pm by BluntmanII


I used to use a Vent app on Android because 1.0 wouldn't let you alt+tab early on.
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Mumble ftw.

Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning for favoring mumble over the other popular VOIP programs?
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TurboTom wrote:
Wint wrote:
Mumble ftw.

Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning for favoring mumble over the other popular VOIP programs?


Because it's free, open source, and insanely easy to set up (see my sig). I tried running Vent but it was a total pain in the *** to get going (might be easier now). My requirements are being able to run it on a low power PC (like my Raspberry Pi's that I have) so that I can leave it on all the time and not suck juice, I don't leave my computers on all day for the most part to cut down on the electricity bill.

Mumble has great performance, even on a Pi. My LS'mates who were used to Vent/Teamspeak actually favor Mumble now.
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Wint wrote:
TurboTom wrote:
Wint wrote:
Mumble ftw.

Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning for favoring mumble over the other popular VOIP programs?


Because it's free, open source, and insanely easy to set up (see my sig). I tried running Vent but it was a total pain in the *** to get going (might be easier now). My requirements are being able to run it on a low power PC (like my Raspberry Pi's that I have) so that I can leave it on all the time and not suck juice, I don't leave my computers on all day for the most part to cut down on the electricity bill.

Mumble has great performance, even on a Pi. My LS'mates who were used to Vent/Teamspeak actually favor Mumble now.


I really do hate that you need a degree in Ventrilo to properly adjust and set it up.
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It must be different when you're setting up the room/server. I've never had a problem with vent and have had no trouble doing what I needed to do with it, but I've also only been a "user."
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Louiscool wrote:
Wint wrote:
TurboTom wrote:
Wint wrote:
Mumble ftw.

Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning for favoring mumble over the other popular VOIP programs?


Because it's free, open source, and insanely easy to set up (see my sig). I tried running Vent but it was a total pain in the *** to get going (might be easier now). My requirements are being able to run it on a low power PC (like my Raspberry Pi's that I have) so that I can leave it on all the time and not suck juice, I don't leave my computers on all day for the most part to cut down on the electricity bill.

Mumble has great performance, even on a Pi. My LS'mates who were used to Vent/Teamspeak actually favor Mumble now.


I really do hate that you need a degree in Ventrilo to properly adjust and set it up.


Assuming you have the port forwarding already set up, it's literally 3 lines to get the server going:

 
sudo apt-get update 
sudo apt-get install mumble-server 
sudo dpkg-reconfigure mumble-server 
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Wint wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
Wint wrote:
TurboTom wrote:
Wint wrote:
Mumble ftw.

Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning for favoring mumble over the other popular VOIP programs?


Because it's free, open source, and insanely easy to set up (see my sig). I tried running Vent but it was a total pain in the *** to get going (might be easier now). My requirements are being able to run it on a low power PC (like my Raspberry Pi's that I have) so that I can leave it on all the time and not suck juice, I don't leave my computers on all day for the most part to cut down on the electricity bill.

Mumble has great performance, even on a Pi. My LS'mates who were used to Vent/Teamspeak actually favor Mumble now.


I really do hate that you need a degree in Ventrilo to properly adjust and set it up.


Assuming you have the port forwarding already set up, it's literally 3 lines to get the server going:

 
sudo apt-get update 
sudo apt-get install mumble-server 
sudo dpkg-reconfigure mumble-server 


Vent is FAIRLY easy to set up a server, I got that easily. The issue is explaining to 27 other people how to set it up, how to adjust their input/outpost volumes, how to change the push-to-talk key, etc etc etc. I've found it's hard to get people to use it because it's very unfriendly to new users and it discourages alot of people who aren't used to it into just not using it.
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I think most of my LS has been able to use mumble out of the box, one guy I know likes to fiddle with the volume for each person but for the most part I think people run it with default settings with no issues.
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Wint wrote:
I think most of my LS has been able to use mumble out of the box, one guy I know likes to fiddle with the volume for each person but for the most part I think people run it with default settings with no issues.


I've only used mumble once because a person on a run didn't have vent, but I didn't have any issues setting it up. I'll have to try it out again and maybe convert my ls.
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one guy I know likes to fiddle with the volume for each person but for the most part I think people run it with default settings with no issues.


Vent does a **** poor job of normalizing people. Mumble handles this much better, but with Mumble there's no option to fix someone's volume on the off chance the program doesn't do it for you.

However, for anyone using Vent, here's a short guide on how to not have to do that every time someone speaks:


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- Go to Setup

- Enable Direct Sound

- Select the SFX Button

- Select Compressor and click Add.

- Under Compressor Properties use the following settings

- Gain = Adjust for how loud you want people to be. (I use 15)

- Attack = 0.01

- Release = Around 500

- Threshold = Around -30

- Ratio = 100

- Pre delay = 4.0


What the settings do

Gain
How much volume you feed into the compressor. Not really relevant unless everyone is too quiet, then you can turn this up a little; turning it up too much will sound EXTREMELY *%*%ty.

Attack
How fast volume change will happen. example: setting this to 500 means that any-
thing coming in will only be dropped in volume after a half a second. for vent this should
be set as low as possible.

Release
how fast the compressor stops changing things. not really that relevant with vent, setting it around 500 is good for voice material.

Threshold
This sets the point where we actually start changing what s coming in. Whereas 0 is the absolute loudest you can have for an input, -60 is super quiet. Average users will probably come in somewhere around -25 to -15, with the occaisional few being really quiet, which is why I have this set so low.

Ratio
How much any sound below the set threshold gets compressed and/or modified in the volume department.
If you still want to hear SOME volume variation then set this lower (2-4)... the higher you set it the closer in volume everyone will be.

Pre delay
Mostly just deals with processing; with computer and digital processors they can look ahead a few milliseconds to see what needs to be dropped in volume or changed before it actually comes through the speakers. Highest is ideal.

http://www.novagamers.net/forums/topic/31-how-to-vent-normalization/
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