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#1 May 25 2013 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Recently you reported a post in the series of flame posts you were exchanging with je355804, calling it "offensive". No action
however was taken on that report. I was the one who received the report, and I was the one that deemed it a frivolous complaint, and one not covering a violation of the forums rules: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/Forum_Rules

Specifically there is no rule against trolling or flame wars. This is deliberate and by design, and has been so since the earliest days of the forum. There is a rule against continuing a flame war when one of my admins tells you to knock it off. There is a rule against disobeying admin instructions in general, and there is a documented process to appeal admin decisions you disagree with. Only the truly ******* stupid individual decides to call out a forum administrator on a forum they wish to continue posting on,

Yet here we are.

The fact that "I" am the one posting this, and doing so publicly, rather than as a PM, should be taken directly as an indicator of how irritated I am with you at the moment, and how deep your imminent peril is. You have a choice going forward here. You will either choose to tone things way the **** down, quit trying to make problems for my administrators, and quit trying to deliberately **** off and disrupt every other thread in here. Or be destroyed.

Please consider this your final warning on the subject, Also please consider my long history of dealing with this kind of ****, and how very seldom (hint: never) I bluff about things when talking about an imminent ban, But go ahead, choose to try and call that bluff. See what happens.

Make. My. Day.

Senior Forum Administrator Kaolian Drachensborn

Edited, May 26th 2013 8:09am by Wint Lock Thread: Done!
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#2 May 25 2013 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thank goodness. I was getting tired of stating my opinion (and sometimes facts if it was warranted) only to be harrassed/insulted/etc. I'm all for having healthy discussions on direction of the game, but I'm glad someone was noticing the trend of posts.
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#3 May 25 2013 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Good , I just re-subscribed to Premium member on here in anticipation of the games re- launch and was starting to regret that move due to this type of behavior . Thank you Lord Kaolian.
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#4 May 25 2013 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow, any other forum would have banned such an offender long before it coming to this. The fact that it was handled in this manner makes me love this forum so much more. And I think it is also very generous to only action his behavior with a post describing your frustration with him rather than simply banning like the other forums would, as previously stated. Much Respect Kaolian. Much respect.

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#5 May 25 2013 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smiley: lol
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Dear Kaolain,

Years ago, when I was but a fledgling member of the forums. I was deeply critical of your administration actions back then. My protests were made in the defense of a one known as Tofubot and his humorous antics. Words were spoken harshly, and I even went as far as publicly rating you down as an expression of disagreement for that stance (I do believe that triggered the removal of rating being possible on Admins, actually.)

In the years watching you more closely, and the level of tolerance you express on behalf of members who make repeated violations. You show tolerance beyond my own limits and a firm but fair approach to meeting it out. This observation over the years has made me feel regret over the choice words and actions I had back then, and I just wanted to be forward and apologize for them. You know what you are doing, you do it well, and it was brash of me to question them.

Keep kicking *** man. You do a **** of a job, as thankless as it is.

Waiting anxiously for your day to be made,
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#7 May 25 2013 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't green arrow you so:

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#8 May 25 2013 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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Not a fan of this being public personally. No need to start a lynchin' mob, this isn't Poubelle after all.

Edit: Woot downvotes in less than five minutes, I don't know why I bother posting my opinions on the interwebs anymore!



Edited, May 25th 2013 4:07pm by DamienSScott
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#9 May 25 2013 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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DamienSScott wrote:
Not a fan of this being public personally. No need to start a lynchin' mob, this isn't Poubelle after all.

Edit: Woot downvotes in less than five minutes, I don't know why I bother posting my opinions on the interwebs anymore!



Edited, May 25th 2013 4:07pm by DamienSScott


Sometimes, a little humility goes a long way. In this case, it will either serve as a catalyst to smooth out ones attitude on these forums, or it will make him stop posting here altogether. Either way, it's all out there now, and we all know it.
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Make. My. Day.


I was always a little more fond of "You have to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do you, punk?" But "Make my day" is more to the point in this situation. Smiley: lol
#11 May 25 2013 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Xoie wrote:
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Make. My. Day.


I was always a little more fond of "You have to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do you, punk?" But "Make my day" is more to the point in this situation. Smiley: lol


Is it weird that I read the post in John Marston's voice? In a most likely unrelated note I just watched all of the cut scenes for Red Dead Redemption.
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Smiley: lol
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The mere fact that this thread exists justifies me coming to these forums.

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#14 May 25 2013 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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A thread dedicated just to you, Ostia. Would you look at that? If that's not an ego stroke for someone like you, I don't know what it is.
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#15Ostia, Posted: May 25 2013 at 2:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Smiley: lol Your words, not Mine!
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Ostia wrote:
Atkascha wrote:
A thread dedicated just to you, Ostia. Would you look at that? If that's not an ego stroke for someone like you, I don't know what it is.


Smiley: lol Your words, not Mine!

Totally not a compliment.
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#17Ostia, Posted: May 25 2013 at 2:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Don't recall ever saying i took it as one Smiley: rolleyes I said his words, not mine.
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I also disagree with the public nature of this reprimand. I prefer these things be handled privately. However, given Kaolian is upset then obviously Ostia has gone overboard in some extreme manner.

I, for one, actually hope that Ostia manages to stick around. While more often than not his opinion varies from my own I do believe he brings an absurd balance to this forum. His opinions and posts do tend to be a little inflammatory but maybe one out of every 50 does give me pause. I have to think and develop my opinion more clearly in order to be sure it is logical.
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#19 May 25 2013 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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Well, Ostia, would you like to respond to the OP? I am interested in how you feel about this since you have an opinion about everything else. Care to respond directly to the OP or to how we/you feel about the public display of your reprimand?

Edited, May 25th 2013 5:09pm by WFOAssassin
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WFOAssassin wrote:
Well, Ostia, would you like to respond to the OP? I am interested in how you feel about this since you have an opinion about everything else. Care to respond directly to the OP or to how we/you feel about the public display of your reprimand?

Edited, May 25th 2013 5:09pm by WFOAssassin


A response isn't needed. Besides, we all know that nothing good could come of any sort of response. I think it's in the best interest of everyone to not goad this subject anymore.
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#21 May 25 2013 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel like Kaolian said all that needs to be said. There is no sense in us antagonizing Ostia in the "oooh you got burned!" manner that this thread has turned into. Give him a chance...albeit a 40 millionth one. Nonetheless.
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#22 May 25 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
Hate to say it, but people like Ostia (and Rog back in the XI general forums), always brought entertainment to these forums. I guess for the admins it's having to deal with the complaints of the users involved. That I could see as as annoying since it's like dealing with 2 bickering 6 years olds.
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This was so unprofessional.
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This was so unprofessional.

I think Kao is just trying to let everyone on the board know that their pleas are being heard.
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WFOAssassin wrote:
Well, Ostia, would you like to respond to the OP? I am interested in how you feel about this since you have an opinion about everything else. Care to respond directly to the OP or to how we/you feel about the public display of your reprimand?

Edited, May 25th 2013 5:09pm by WFOAssassin


Ok i'll Bait! Considering i was not banned nor muted, the notion you feel this is a public display of "Reprimand" speaks far louder about you, than this post speaks of myself Smiley: lol As for the thread itself, i actually did what should have been done, and took the meter to Private.
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This is a public display of reprimand lol...Bill Clinton himself couldn't spin out of that one.
Never seen a forum do this though. I doubt its efficacy.
Better hurry though! Prime time's starting, new (or old) people are coming in every day!
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