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#27 May 31 2013 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was being facetious. I wasn't actually upset haha.
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#28 Jun 12 2013 at 9:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
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There shouldn't be anything stopping you from making alts, but if it's like the original version and FFXI, they may charge you for the additional character slots each month if it reaches a certain point. (Something like $1.00 per slot.)


Nope... your 15/month gets you 8 characters per server, with a 40 character worldwide limit.


I was wondering where you found this info, all I have been able to find is info on the entry fee which is $12.99 a month for 1 character with the option to have up to 8 characters at an additional $3.00 per character. I found that in the FAQ for the official FFXIV forums, so I am confused where the $15/month for 8 characters comes from because if I can pay $15 for 8, thats a much better deal.
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The 12.99 is one character per server max, but with up to 8 chars across 8 servers The 15.99 is 8 characters per server, 40 characters total, or somesuch.

I think.
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#30 Jun 12 2013 at 10:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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The 12.99 is one character per server max, but with up to 8 chars across 8 servers The 15.99 14.99 is 8 characters per server, 40 characters total, or somesuch.

I think.


FTFY

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#31 Jun 12 2013 at 10:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Once again though, I ask, where are you getting this info from? The SE FAQ only states that it will be $12.99 for one character and $3 for each additional character up to a max of 8.


Edited, Jun 13th 2013 12:15am by princessary
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#32 Jun 12 2013 at 10:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Once again though, I ask, where are you getting this info from? The SE FAQ only states that it will be $12.99 for one character and $3 for each additional character up to a max of 8.


Edited, Jun 13th 2013 12:15am by princessary


Please see my sticky. There's a link to a screen grab with the pricing breakdown
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It's on the FAQ page:

http://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle.php?id=5382&la=1&kid=64539&ret=faqtop&c=3&sc=0

SE account page wrote:
The fees for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn at time of official launch are as follows:

◆Legacy
   Subscription Period: 30 days
   Fee: $9.99
   Number of playable characters: 8 per World and up to 40 per service account
  * Please visit the URL below for details on the Legacy Campaign.
   http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/campaign/campaign.html#legacy

◆Entry
   Subscription Period: 30 days
   Fee: $12.99
   Number of playable characters: 1 per World and up to 8 per service account

◆Standard
   Subscription Period: 30 days
   Fee: $14.99
   Number of playable characters: 8 per World and up to 40 per service account

Fees for subscription cycles longer than 31 days as well as retainer usage fees are not yet determined. An announcement will be made as soon as these fees are determined so please stay tuned.
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#34 Jun 12 2013 at 10:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/

Scroll down to the subscription pricing table, below the retail table.

EDIT: Or you could just read Catwho's entirely superior table.

Edited, Jun 12th 2013 11:19pm by Callinon
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/

Scroll down to the subscription pricing table, below the retail table.

EDIT: Or you could just read Catwho's entirely superior table.

Edited, Jun 12th 2013 11:19pm by Callinon


Awesomeness!!! That was exactly what I was looking for. As they say, seeing is believing. :D
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#36 Aug 09 2013 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
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Hello all!

Sorry to bump up an old topic, but I have had a related question and decided to make an account so I can ask in this thread (rather than create a whole new thread).

I played 1.0 and did mostly crafting (I have BOT, CPT, WVR and TAN in the mid 20s). For ARR, I have decided to use this character only for crafting and gathering and create a new main for the combat classes. I did very little of any storyline on my 1.0 character.

1) For the DoH/DoL character, will I be forced to do any story lines or can I just run around everywhere in the world and gather/craft anything I need?
2) Is it possible that I will be locked out of areas and not be able to gather certain materials?
3) I know as of the most recent Letter from the Producer it seems they are making it tough on people with alts on the same account/server to trade/transfer items. Do you guys believe this will be a long term problem? I feel that it is a very poor decision to not allow my two characters to share a retainer/mail items etc. If its really a matter of not wanting people to rotate AF gear, I am sure there is a simple solution. Maybe just only allow the person who put it in storage to take it out.

Thanks for any info!
#37 Aug 09 2013 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Anakte wrote:
On a loosely related note, poor chocobo companions. There's going to be a lot of dead chocobos.


Until I see a dead body, grave or food created with chocobos, I'm going to believe that they just get knocked out and not killed.

You have to BELIEVE.
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#38 Aug 09 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Until I see a dead body, grave or food created with chocobos, I'm going to believe that they just get knocked out and not killed.

You have to BELIEVE.


I can just see it now: people renting chocobos just to run them into high level areas to purposely get knocked off the bird. Then "harvest" them for their chocobo meat to level up their cooking skills!

Chocobo stew could be tasty. Game-meat usually makes good stews Smiley: lol
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#39 Aug 09 2013 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
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The rating system is a fun tool but I wouldn't take it too seriously either. I was a higher rank at some point but I joined during the early days of 1.0 and I was very vocal about my disappointment with the game, and the majority of my posts got defaulted into oblivion because certain people thought I was being too negative. Funny how things turn out...


It's ironic considering I just told BartelX and others that in another thread and he disagreed with me. The rating system really needs to be removed from ZAM. Replace it with a spam only button so people that are just trolling can be nuked. That way admins can ban people who abuse the rate down features(spam button) killing two birds with one stone. As of right now the karma system is a popularity contest. You see people that post smiley faces and never make any real contribution being rated up for doing nothing.



Edited, Aug 9th 2013 3:49pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
#40 Aug 09 2013 at 2:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kameon wrote:
Hello all!

Sorry to bump up an old topic, but I have had a related question and decided to make an account so I can ask in this thread (rather than create a whole new thread).

I played 1.0 and did mostly crafting (I have BOT, CPT, WVR and TAN in the mid 20s). For ARR, I have decided to use this character only for crafting and gathering and create a new main for the combat classes. I did very little of any storyline on my 1.0 character.

1) For the DoH/DoL character, will I be forced to do any story lines or can I just run around everywhere in the world and gather/craft anything I need?
2) Is it possible that I will be locked out of areas and not be able to gather certain materials?
3) I know as of the most recent Letter from the Producer it seems they are making it tough on people with alts on the same account/server to trade/transfer items. Do you guys believe this will be a long term problem? I feel that it is a very poor decision to not allow my two characters to share a retainer/mail items etc. If its really a matter of not wanting people to rotate AF gear, I am sure there is a simple solution. Maybe just only allow the person who put it in storage to take it out.

Thanks for any info!

As it was in P3, you couldn't start as DoH/DoL anymore. Had to pick a DoW or DoM to start with. So a crafting/gathering only character would have to start that way, reach level 10, and do the level 10 class quest before getting started. There are also some other milestones further into the storyline you'd want to reach. Like unlocking the airship pass, chocobo, and retainers. And the main storyline requires combat classes.



Edited, Aug 9th 2013 4:55pm by TwistedOwl
#41 Aug 09 2013 at 3:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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The rating system is a fun tool but I wouldn't take it too seriously either. I was a higher rank at some point but I joined during the early days of 1.0 and I was very vocal about my disappointment with the game, and the majority of my posts got defaulted into oblivion because certain people thought I was being too negative. Funny how things turn out...


It's ironic considering I just told BartelX and others that in another thread and he disagreed with me. The rating system really needs to be removed from ZAM. Replace it with a spam only button so people that are just trolling can be nuked. That way admins can ban people who abuse the rate down features(spam button) killing two birds with one stone. As of right now the karma system is a popularity contest. You see people that post smiley faces and never make any real contribution being rated up for doing nothing.



It's not a prefect system, but no system is. It can harshly punish unpopular ideas, but that's about its only serious flaw from what I can tell. That and it does little to thwart committed trolls, other than to paint them as such. It does encourage you to be respectful and to stop belaboring the same point over and over in a disagreement (or just get rated down repeatedly instead of just once). And there are moderators who will stop any abusers who circumvent the system or use it in ways that are unintended (sock puppets, campers, etc.).
#42 Aug 09 2013 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Until I see a dead body, grave or food created with chocobos, I'm going to believe that they just get knocked out and not killed.

You have to BELIEVE.


I can just see it now: people renting chocobos just to run them into high level areas to purposely get knocked off the bird. Then "harvest" them for their chocobo meat to level up their cooking skills!

Chocobo stew could be tasty. Game-meat usually makes good stews Smiley: lol


Sigh, I've never seen a Leathercrafter use a chocobo hide, or a moogle hide. No feathers anywhere on anything (oh wait, I think there's a headdress but they fell off of some bird.

Nope, nope.
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#43 Aug 09 2013 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kameon wrote:
Hello all!

Sorry to bump up an old topic, but I have had a related question and decided to make an account so I can ask in this thread (rather than create a whole new thread).

I played 1.0 and did mostly crafting (I have BOT, CPT, WVR and TAN in the mid 20s). For ARR, I have decided to use this character only for crafting and gathering and create a new main for the combat classes. I did very little of any storyline on my 1.0 character.

1) For the DoH/DoL character, will I be forced to do any story lines or can I just run around everywhere in the world and gather/craft anything I need?
2) Is it possible that I will be locked out of areas and not be able to gather certain materials?
3) I know as of the most recent Letter from the Producer it seems they are making it tough on people with alts on the same account/server to trade/transfer items. Do you guys believe this will be a long term problem? I feel that it is a very poor decision to not allow my two characters to share a retainer/mail items etc. If its really a matter of not wanting people to rotate AF gear, I am sure there is a simple solution. Maybe just only allow the person who put it in storage to take it out.

Thanks for any info!


You should have started a new thread instead of bumping an old topic, but it's too late for that now.

1) You can run around on all the non-instanced maps fine.
2) All of the current harvesting nodes are on non-instanced maps.
3) One character gets:

- 100 inventory slots
- 175 per retainer and up to 2 retainers per character
- 25 slots per equipment slot in the form of the armory chest (so 25 slots for head items, 25 slots for chest items, 25 slots for rings (even though there are two equippable ring slots), 25 slots for necklaces, and so on)
- 7 or 8 (don't remember which) slots for the job crystals
- an unknown (to me) amount of slots for selling on top of that.

Even if you are absolutely horrid at inventory management, it will take you a while to fill up all of those slots.
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
As of right now the karma system is a popularity contest. You see people that post smiley faces and never make any real contribution being rated up for doing nothing.

Maybe that's what people want to see more of?

People rate up what they want to see more of, and rate down what they want to see less of. The karma system is nothing less, and nothing more.
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#45 Aug 09 2013 at 6:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kameon wrote:
Hello all!

Sorry to bump up an old topic, but I have had a related question and decided to make an account so I can ask in this thread (rather than create a whole new thread).

I played 1.0 and did mostly crafting (I have BOT, CPT, WVR and TAN in the mid 20s). For ARR, I have decided to use this character only for crafting and gathering and create a new main for the combat classes. I did very little of any storyline on my 1.0 character.

1) For the DoH/DoL character, will I be forced to do any story lines or can I just run around everywhere in the world and gather/craft anything I need?
2) Is it possible that I will be locked out of areas and not be able to gather certain materials?
3) I know as of the most recent Letter from the Producer it seems they are making it tough on people with alts on the same account/server to trade/transfer items. Do you guys believe this will be a long term problem? I feel that it is a very poor decision to not allow my two characters to share a retainer/mail items etc. If its really a matter of not wanting people to rotate AF gear, I am sure there is a simple solution. Maybe just only allow the person who put it in storage to take it out.

Thanks for any info!


You should have started a new thread instead of bumping an old topic, but it's too late for that now.

1) You can run around on all the non-instanced maps fine.
2) All of the current harvesting nodes are on non-instanced maps.
3) One character gets:

- 100 inventory slots
- 175 per retainer and up to 2 retainers per character
- 25 slots per equipment slot in the form of the armory chest (so 25 slots for head items, 25 slots for chest items, 25 slots for rings (even though there are two equippable ring slots), 25 slots for necklaces, and so on)
- 7 or 8 (don't remember which) slots for the job crystals
- an unknown (to me) amount of slots for selling on top of that.

Even if you are absolutely horrid at inventory management, it will take you a while to fill up all of those slots.


I filled them up before level 20. I had to throw stuff away. When I got the retainer I put as much as I could on the AH, don't remember if it was 20 spots, but I think you can have 2 retainers.
It was my last day and I didn't want to go further.

I will try not to hoard come P4.
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I filled them up before level 20. I had to throw stuff away. When I got the retainer I put as much as I could on the AH, don't remember if it was 20 spots, but I think you can have 2 retainers.
It was my last day and I didn't want to go further.

I will try not to hoard come P4.


You can have two retainers. It didn't let me get any more in any of the Phases. I'm surprised you managed to fill up all the armory slots and the regular inventory though. What exactly were you hoarding?
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You can have two retainers. It didn't let me get any more in any of the Phases. I'm surprised you managed to fill up all the armory slots and the regular inventory though. What exactly were you hoarding?


While I can't say that my inventory was completely filled, it was close a few times and I ended up selling a bunch of random items to an NPC. To be honest, I don't really see much incentive to sell anything until you obtain access to a retainer. Pretty much everything I did end up selling was only worth 1 gil aside from a few pieces of gear I had crafted.

By trying to complete the crafting log as a source of EXP I was able to lvl up easily but it also filled up my inventory quickly with stuff I really didn't need. Without much incentive to sell, it adds up. Especially if you are also leveling a gathering class to supplement your crafts.
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You can have two retainers. It didn't let me get any more in any of the Phases. I'm surprised you managed to fill up all the armory slots and the regular inventory though. What exactly were you hoarding?


While I can't say that my inventory was completely filled, it was close a few times and I ended up selling a bunch of random items to an NPC. To be honest, I don't really see much incentive to sell anything until you obtain access to a retainer. Pretty much everything I did end up selling was only worth 1 gil aside from a few pieces of gear I had crafted.

By trying to complete the crafting log as a source of EXP I was able to lvl up easily but it also filled up my inventory quickly with stuff I really didn't need. Without much incentive to sell, it adds up. Especially if you are also leveling a gathering class to supplement your crafts.


Yes, but a lot of the things you'd be making are gear, which means you could put it in the Armory inventory for storage (as long as you didn't go fighting in it). The only one I'd expect to fill first is the weapon slot.
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Yes, but a lot of the things you'd be making are gear, which means you could put it in the Armory inventory for storage (as long as you didn't go fighting in it). The only one I'd expect to fill first is the weapon slot.


I guess that's true, but then when I want to go sell it I will have to move it back into the inventory anyways. All that extra work... lol

Hopefully the prices for selling to NPCs will get better at higher levels, but it still seems that there is not much incentive to sell anything before you get your retainer, and so your inventory may fill up.
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Yes, but a lot of the things you'd be making are gear, which means you could put it in the Armory inventory for storage (as long as you didn't go fighting in it). The only one I'd expect to fill first is the weapon slot.


I guess that's true, but then when I want to go sell it I will have to move it back into the inventory anyways. All that extra work... lol

Hopefully the prices for selling to NPCs will get better at higher levels, but it still seems that there is not much incentive to sell anything before you get your retainer, and so your inventory may fill up.


I'm *pretty* sure you can vendor items straight out of the armory chest as well, but since I turn everything there into materia, it's hard for me to verify. Smiley: lol

The prices do go up, but if you're doing a quest and the quest rewards aren't useful to you, then always go for the money. I was leveling all the tradeskill and gathering classes in tandem so almost all the available quest gear were downgrades. (Exception was either the level 15 or level 20 quest results I think, don't remember which.)
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I'm *pretty* sure you can vendor items straight out of the armory chest as well, but since I turn everything there into materia, it's hard for me to verify. Smiley: lol

You can. There's an option to switch to the armory chest when the shop window is up.
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