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#1 Jun 06 2013 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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It's a good trailers still :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NYyVAW9Rqg&feature=youtu.be
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#2 Jun 06 2013 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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February 11th release date... (NA) It looks good. I was just under the impression it would be released this year. Oh, well. I doubt anyone's overly-excited to see this released.
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#3 Jun 06 2013 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Terrible voice acting still! I guess they had to keep the same voice actors... I just wish they'd hire better ones at the start. Smiley: bah

Also, she's Neo now. Or something.
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It quivers in the awesome shadow of FFXIV.
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Meh. I mean, I'll still play it, but... meh.

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Terrible voice acting still! I guess they had to keep the same voice actors... I just wish they'd hire better ones at the start. Smiley: bah

Also, she's Neo now. Or something.


Haha, I also thought it was cheesy rip-off of matrix. If I see albino twins, I'm out.
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Catwho wrote:
Terrible voice acting still! I guess they had to keep the same voice actors... I just wish they'd hire better ones at the start. Smiley: bah

Also, she's Neo now. Or something.


really? i don't find it THAT bad. i could hop on netflix and find a ton of movies with actors much worse than these people.
#7 Jun 06 2013 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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yeah really i found NOTHING wrong with the voice acting in that game... but then again Im an 80s kid.. I come from the days when anime dubs have 12 year old boys with voiced deeper than Barry White's (and a Japanese guy calling people "chap" and talking a CLEAR English accent (see the Samurai X motion picture) and where games like Resident Evil 1 on the PS1 existed..

I listed to the "bad" voice acting in games and anime today then think of stuff like anime in the 80s and resident evil 1 and ask myself "wtf is wrong with these people? i dont see ANYTHING wrong with this voice acting"... I mean if you want to hear REAL bad voice acting:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg



no joke.. i swear i thought this was a fandub when I first heard it. I SWEAR thats the real voice acting lol...


Now again tell me.. whats wrong with Lightning Returns acting again?
#8 Jun 06 2013 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Now again tell me.. whats wrong with Lightning Returns acting again?
Most of the cast sounds bored.
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#9 Jun 06 2013 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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Now again tell me.. whats wrong with Lightning Returns acting again?
Most of the cast sounds bored.



you want to hear what bored ppl sound like? look at that link i posted....
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An example of bad dubbing only makes another example of bad dubbing good in comparison, not in actuality.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:15pm by lolgaxe
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An example of bad dubbing only makes another example of bad dubbing good in comparison, not in actuality.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:15pm by lolgaxe



more like until you can show me what GOOD voice acting sounds like then FFXIII is considering good by todays standard while the crap in that link (or resident evil 1) is what constitutes as horrible
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I think the voice acting is quite good! The game looks like utter garbage though.
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I have mixed feelings about this one... Some of it looks enjoyable the rest is probably just another one button mashing endless abyss...
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I hate anime dubs so that's a bad example to bring up. Original JP only!

Sadly, the best voice acting I've heard coming out of an American studio in the last ten years was on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

SE should have hired Tara Strong for Lightning.

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Yeah, she did a great job with Rikku!

(I'm being heavily sarcastic - she actually is a great voice actress though I haven't seen MLP, but wow Rikku was bad

I usually prefer the original voice acting, but in the case of the XIII games and Kingdom Hearts, I certainly prefer the English.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:50pm by Killua125
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That's because she deliberately went high and squeaky to be a teenage girl. Her normal voice is a bit lower.
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Her Harley Quinn is a good example of voice acting done right. Also Nolan North.
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Catwho wrote:
I hate anime dubs so that's a bad example to bring up. Original JP only!

Sadly, the best voice acting I've heard coming out of an American studio in the last ten years was on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

SE should have hired Tara Strong for Lightning.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:45pm by Catwho



lost of ppl will tell you the fullmetal alchemist dub is just as good if not BETTER than the JP dub... its the first and ONLY anime ive ever heard that said about but at least it proves it CAN be done
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Catwho wrote:
I hate anime dubs so that's a bad example to bring up. Original JP only!

Sadly, the best voice acting I've heard coming out of an American studio in the last ten years was on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

SE should have hired Tara Strong for Lightning.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:45pm by Catwho



lost of ppl will tell you the fullmetal alchemist dub is just as good if not BETTER than the JP dub... its the first and ONLY anime ive ever heard that said about but at least it proves it CAN be done


For me, I actually prefer Japanese for FMA (by far), but there are definitely some anime where the English voice is better. There are anime like Cowboy Bebop where the Japanese people prefer the English voice acting.

I think it just comes down to quality. The localization budget is oftentimes small when it comes to Japanese products coming westward, and good voice actors just don't get hired.

I think XIII (and its however many sequels) has good English voice acting - fantastic if you're comparing it to other JRPGs.

About Tara Strong and Rikku, I get what she was doing with her voice, but it was just all wrong. She's a really talented voice actor, so I'll just pin it to bad direction or something...

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 3:29pm by Killua125
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0 interest in this game. The characters in 13 and 13-2 to me seemed to go out of their way to make me dislike them. Couldnt grow to like them at all. Sazh was probably the closest, but then got shoe-horned into the token funny black guy role. Vanille or however she was spelt stuck me as an attempt at an Aerie (from BG2) type character, but in the end I just wanted her to suffer permenant laryngitis.
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#21 Jun 06 2013 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Best Final Fantasy game ever. FF XIII > FF VII. Lightning would kick Cloud's ***. Best voice acting in the series, FF VII is racist. All the FF VII fan boys can get **** hurt and downrate my comment and reply with "BACK IN NAM VIDEO GAMES WERE DA **** NOW THEY GOT BETTER GRAPHICS OMG I GO KILL MYSELF" before ever realizing I'm trolling.
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Troll on brother. I doubt anyone will care. On a more serious topic...I am actually looking forward to rapping this saga up. And voice acting? I don't think anyone in this game is worse than Vaan, as much as I loved that game. Hearing him run around saying "I am Bosch Van Ronsenburg of DALMASCA!" a hundred times for that part of the story gave me and my roommate joke material for years.
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#23IvanStine207, Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 3:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That game had bad graphics so I stopped playing it after the first non cinematic scene. A game is nothing without good graphics which is why FF VII was ****.
#24BrokenFox, Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 3:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pass. I couldn't even finish the first XIII.
#25Ostia, Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 4:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I hope they execute whoever was behind this 3 games after this is over.... Please do not let him create more FF! Not with out Ito!
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They will promote him to head of the company and continue to make more games like XIII or whatever makes them money.
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I HATED the Moogles voice. It was so contrary to the voice in my imagination, that I muted the cutscenes and just used subtitles.

The game itself -xiii-2 lacked characters to exchange and level up. Unless you count the monsters, which
I'm not.

No thief, no white and dark mages, just really two characters and some guest appearances. Very dissapointing.

I did NOT fight at the collesium, just had no interest in it.

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I hate Snow and would love to destroy him in this next game.
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Catwho wrote:
Terrible voice acting still! I guess they had to keep the same voice actors... I just wish they'd hire better ones at the start. Smiley: bah

Also, she's Neo now. Or something.



...and cringy dialog. ugh.

On a positive note it looks more like XIII-2. Though I only played the demo, even that was far more tolerable than the orignal XIII. I didn't even mind Chocolina.

Like I said in another thread though, I didn't like how broad the idea for this (current) series was. I want ONE FF game every 2-3 years and I want a good one. I don't want a thousand so-so spin-offs.

But whatever, I hope this one is good.
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I just don't think that lighting is that likable of a character... Like zero attachment.
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She ain't she is a bootlegged female version of cloud.
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Ostia wrote:
I hope they execute whoever was behind this 3 games after this is over.... Please do not let him create more FF! Not with out Ito!


Motomu and Kitase, whom also worked on the FF games you continually stated is the best. Direct your misguided hate elsewhere.
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Ostia wrote:
I hope they execute whoever was behind this 3 games after this is over.... Please do not let him create more FF! Not with out Ito!


Motomu and Kitase, whom also worked on the FF games you continually stated is the best. Direct your misguided hate elsewhere.


Misguided ? I am fully aware of who created XIII, Toriyama wrote it...Which is 90% of the problem, he is an awful writer, you only have to play XIII-XIII2 to realize how horrible he is... As for kitase, sure he worked on VI, but as i have always stated, he does exceptional work only when paired with Ito.

Seriously look at Motomu resume... 2 ok games... A bunch of failures. 3rd birthday... Such splendid scrip Smiley: lol Oh Front Mission evolved... Such such great gem Smiley: lol

The best thing he has in that resume is being special thanked in Type-0 Which btw is the best final fantasy game, second to VI.
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X-2, XIII and XIII-2 are the only FF games I started and couldn't finish. Every other one that I got my hands on I managed to play through. I simply didn't care for any of the characters, or how it was all going to end. So I waited for XIII-2 to drop down in price, thinking it might be better, but no, the story was in fact worse.

The only good thing here is the world looks, different then the previous 2, so we'll have to wait and see for the reviews. I'll just do like XIII-2, wait for a sale of 9.99 or 19.99$ and play through the first 20-30 hours and see how it goes.

SE just needs to back off on all the futuristic flashy graphics and go back to open worlds with the old school feeling.
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I've heard many people over the internet post comments of negativity towards the XIII series and I've had mixed feelings about the hate on XIII, ranging from amusement to annoyance and it can fluctate, but I can see a considerable amount of the naysayers of this next game end up buying it. Why? Simply because a lot of nolstalgic gamers don't want to give on Final Fantasy just yet, they hope for a game that satisfy not only their entertainment but also their desire to recapture the experience they felt in the previous games. This is highly unlikely just as much as it would be for a person who has played a mmo from its start and as its changed, they are becoming displeased of it and switch to a clone MMO which doesn't please them because it just isn't the same. I've heard the target audience for this game has been from early youth to young adults, so its not a surprise that there are people complaining about the games change because the cultures are changing. My advice to people looking for satisfaction in future FF games, is to be open-minded. If a person cannot try to be open minded with the game then they are setting themselves up for failure of obtaining their entertainment, and will be disappointed.
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I bought it because it said "Final Fantasy" and up to that point, i had yet to be disappointed in a main entry of the Series. A bad game is a bad game no meter what expectations you set for yourself, FF Type 0 is the best FF game they have created in the past 15 years... Is aimed at the same people XIII was, yet is not as horrible, in contrast is a masterpiece from start to finish.
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After playing the first two installments, I've been involved in this story too much not to see how it ends. I mean, it would just gnaw at me to simply ignore it.

So, **** me, I'm getting this game. Smiley: bah
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Ostia wrote:
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Ostia wrote:
I hope they execute whoever was behind this 3 games after this is over.... Please do not let him create more FF! Not with out Ito!


Motomu and Kitase, whom also worked on the FF games you continually stated is the best. Direct your misguided hate elsewhere.


Misguided ? I am fully aware of who created XIII, Toriyama wrote it...Which is 90% of the problem, he is an awful writer, you only have to play XIII-XIII2 to realize how horrible he is... As for kitase, sure he worked on VI, but as i have always stated, he does exceptional work only when paired with Ito.

Seriously look at Motomu resume... 2 ok games... A bunch of failures. 3rd birthday... Such splendid scrip Smiley: lol Oh Front Mission evolved... Such such great gem Smiley: lol

The best thing he has in that resume is being special thanked in Type-0 Which btw is the best final fantasy game, second to VI.


For once, I agree with Ostia. Yoshinori Kitase likes good storytelling, Hiroyuki Ito gets the critically acclaimed FFs for their gameplay. They need to team up again and make a new FF that mashes the two together or you'll keep getting FFs with great story and no gameplay (Kitase - XIII) or great gameplay with no story (Ito - XII).

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Sheesh 2014, at least it's XBOX 360 and not XBOX ONE.
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That game had bad graphics so I stopped playing it after the first non cinematic scene. A game is nothing without good graphics which is why FF VII was sh*t.


You realize that at the time of its release, FFVII's graphics were revolutionary? Of course they're going to look like crap to a younger gamer.

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I just don't think that lighting is that likable of a character... Like zero attachment.


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She ain't she is a bootlegged female version of cloud.


Cloud was more likeable, especially if you saw him in Crisis Core before the events of FF7, and got a glimpse of the transformation (pre-SOLDIER).
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Killua125 wrote:
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I hate anime dubs so that's a bad example to bring up. Original JP only!

Sadly, the best voice acting I've heard coming out of an American studio in the last ten years was on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

SE should have hired Tara Strong for Lightning.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 2:45pm by Catwho



lost of ppl will tell you the fullmetal alchemist dub is just as good if not BETTER than the JP dub... its the first and ONLY anime ive ever heard that said about but at least it proves it CAN be done


For me, I actually prefer Japanese for FMA (by far), but there are definitely some anime where the English voice is better. There are anime like Cowboy Bebop where the Japanese people prefer the English voice acting.

I think it just comes down to quality. The localization budget is oftentimes small when it comes to Japanese products coming westward, and good voice actors just don't get hired.

I think XIII (and its however many sequels) has good English voice acting - fantastic if you're comparing it to other JRPGs.

About Tara Strong and Rikku, I get what she was doing with her voice, but it was just all wrong. She's a really talented voice actor, so I'll just pin it to bad direction or something...

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 3:29pm by Killua125



I should agree that FMA dub was quite good but i ll be **** if i don't watch one piece in japanese. I mean half of the laugh i make is from luffy talking like that. (and by the way if you didn't know the voice actor for luffy is female)
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What I am interested in at this point is gameplay. What I've seen from it has piqued my interest. I did not like the ending to FFXIII-2, but I did like the game itself, and the new combat system seems to be more action-centric which is a plus for me.

So... I'm waiting. Will it be worthy of the collection? We'll have to see.
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That game had bad graphics so I stopped playing it after the first non cinematic scene. A game is nothing without good graphics which is why FF VII was sh*t.


You realize that at the time of its release, FFVII's graphics were revolutionary? Of course they're going to look like crap to a younger gamer.

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I just don't think that lighting is that likable of a character... Like zero attachment.


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She ain't she is a bootlegged female version of cloud.


Cloud was more likeable, especially if you saw him in Crisis Core before the events of FF7, and got a glimpse of the transformation (pre-SOLDIER).


Nah not really, never liked cloud, not in CC not in FFVII not in AC, his character was lame, he was a guy with blonde spikey hair and a oversized sword, thats all he was. Now Zack on the other hand.... Has that thing you call "Character" cloud and lighting are the most one dimensional characters in FF XD!
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Cloud was far from one-dimensional. He goes from young country kid in over his head, to cocky schizoid/Zack clone, to a hero that conquers his fears. Cloud's awesome, and will always be the face of Final Fantasy for me.

That said, Lightning's got nothing on Cloud. Although I always thought her name was cool.
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Cloud was far from one-dimensional. He goes from young country kid in over his head, to cocky schizoid/Zack clone, to a hero that conquers his fears. Cloud's awesome, and will always be the face of Final Fantasy for me.

That said, Lightning's got nothing on Cloud. Although I always thought her name was cool.


Exactly. Crisis Core transformed the polygons and text dialogue in FF7 into something that conveyed a realistic Cloud, who was more than just an emo "badass" silent protagonist that a lot of westerners say he was.

I've only played like the first quarter of XIII, but my understanding of Lightning is that while she probably has a more fleshed-out backstory, she's more just "emo badass" for the sake of being cool. And there's not much room to interpret the presentation of her character or give it the benefit of the doubt since the cinematic aspect is top notch. In reading, you have to do a bit of detective guesswork. I do think that's something that can be said about FF7--it came from a period of video games where your imagination and interpretation of the experience defined the game by necessity, whereas today that's a luxury that certain "avant games" can choose merely as an option.
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My absolute main problem with FFXIII was the structure of it. The entire game was just one long corridor/maze, at least until the final act, but at that point I had lost interest. It felt very constricted.

Edited, Jun 7th 2013 4:47pm by BrokenFox
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I'm more or less okay with that actually. The battle system, while okay in its own right, didn't do it for me, personally. The progression system is what really fails to me, because it took an opportunity to REALLY allow exploration and freedom in the gameplay, and put THAT in a "corridor" as well. I'm fine with corridors; they have their pros and cons, but when the gameplay is an on-rails tutorial that barely lets you scale the challenge or own the characters, I'm disengaged.

Now that I think about it, I'd almost rather just watch XIII. Ima guess I can find it all on youtube? Or does SE crack down on that?

Edited, Jun 7th 2013 2:40pm by Kachi
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Cloud was far from one-dimensional. He goes from young country kid in over his head, to cocky schizoid/Zack clone, to a hero that conquers his fears. Cloud's awesome, and will always be the face of Final Fantasy for me.

That said, Lightning's got nothing on Cloud. Although I always thought her name was cool.


Cloud is a failure, a character that needs 2 games, and a movie in order to finally become "Something" other than one dimensional, is quite sad indeed.

Terra did not need 2 games and a movie, nor did Cecil, or Zidane, Squall, Barts etc etc.

He is an overrated character, in an overrated game, with an overrated villain to match... FFVII was good do not get me wrong, but it was not THAT Good.
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Cloud was a well established character from the get go in FF7. It wasn't like Crisis Core and Advent Children had some big revelation about him. They just added to his character.

Edited, Jun 7th 2013 6:18pm by BrokenFox
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He was a zack clone from inception up until he came back from the lifestream... That's about 80% of VII.... And even then he was still the same character up until the end of AC when he finally shade his emo gimmick.

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