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#1 Jun 10 2013 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Official video by PlayStation about the 'game borrowing' issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

As well as the FFXIV, Kingdom Hearts 3, and FFXV (Versus) announcements for PS4 -

the best part of tonight's show was the sh*t talking Xbone, with announcements of no restrictions/required online/etc. Love the drama.

$399, a hundred dollars cheaper than the $499 M$ console...

Edited, Jun 10th 2013 11:15pm by Killua125
#2 Jun 10 2013 at 9:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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That was ******* hilarious. Old japanese dude handing it to nerdy cracker made it all that much better. "Thanks Smiley: wink"
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Smiley: lol That was great.

Like one comment I read, this is both funny and sad. Funny because it's hilarious, sad because Microsoft f'ed up so bad Sony only had to state the obvious to mock them.

Edited, Jun 10th 2013 11:37pm by BrokenFox
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I loved It! <3
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BrokenFox wrote:
Smiley: lol That was great.

Like one comment I read, this is both funny and sad. Funny because it's hilarious, sad because Microsoft f'ed up so bad Sony only had to state the obvious to mock them.

Edited, Jun 10th 2013 11:37pm by BrokenFox

I wonder how much of it they already planned that way and how much changed between MS press conference and today.
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More like Xbox DONE, am I right fellas?
#7 Jun 10 2013 at 9:55 PM Rating: Excellent
I wonder if Microsoft is going to do some backtracking? Sony is just going to CRUSH Microsoft if they don't.
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Yeah I expect there will be some policy changes before they launch, but I think it will be too little too late.
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That "how to share games" video was Smiley: lol
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More like Xbox DONE, am I right fellas?


This may be the first time in history where I agree with you.
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More like Xbox DONE, am I right fellas?


Hahahahaha
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That "how to share games" video was Smiley: lol

Yeah that's pretty awesome Smiley: laughSmiley: lol
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He seemed like he utterly enjoyed those comments lol. Go Sony!
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Gotta say, I thoroughly enjoyed that video. I was considering opting out of the next console generation. Might be worth it to pick up a PS4 early for resell, because demand will probably be through the roof unless Microsoft makes some serious changes.
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Every one of my Youtube subs is putting this up to troll the Xbone.Smiley: lol They still like the Xbox One better ,"something about streaming or recording" but this hits regular people.

Edited, Jun 11th 2013 1:33am by Warmech
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I watched the entire presentation and I was blown away.

I will be preordering a PS4. The price and the unambiguity in used games really sold it.

All I really need is Netflix and games. And the PS4 really fit the bill.

I don't really care for the styling however, but it doesn't look horrible. I also prefer the Xbox controller so that might take some times to get used to.

I'll eventually pick up a One, but that presentation swayed me big time in the PS4s favor.
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"Xbox One is down! I repeat: Xbox One is down! Get an ambulance here, now!" Wii U! Wii U! Wii U! Wii U!

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Omg that was hilarious hahahaa
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Hilarious post by Anonymoose from the Lodestone in the xbox-done thread:

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The three console giants basically saw the same thing: customers were getting ready to break up with them. They were getting too clingy, too costly, they weren't very fun anymore, and they just couldn't be trusted. Hysterically, all three companies basically engaged in the same behavior people do when a relationship is in danger.

Microsoft got insecure and domineering... it didn't want you sharing things with your friends, it started following you around and listening in on your conversations... checking if you lied about how many people were really at your "party"

Sony just wanted to make things right. It knows the gaming industry is making some mistakes right now, but baby, it can change! It'll be like it used to be, but better!

Nintendo... did what it always does when it thinks you're going to break up with it. It just told you, "Whatever, baby. Call me when you get your head together." and started working on the next Pokemon game, because you'll come back. You always come back.
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Accurate. I was gonna say "Well I broke up with Nintendo at N64 and haven't gone back since" but then I realized I have a DS. And Pokemon Platinum. Dammit...

Edited, Jun 11th 2013 8:41am by BrokenFox
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Yep a preorder for the ps4 is def in the works asap... XB one sounds like its just committed suicide
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I was planning on pre-order the xbox one. Until this morning, when I read that PS4 will be 399 and I can pre-order and it will be getting ARR. I can pay a little bit at a time and have it paid off by the time :) Way to Sony!!!!! You get a bakers dozen of choc. chip cookies and a gallon of milk !!!!!
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Hey Mmoderator do you think someone should play the song Taps for the Xbox One.

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That was hilarious!
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bahaha why yes taps is the best suited for the occasion ;P
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I wonder how long will it take Microsoft to figure out that they are losing customers.
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Thanks for the link. Made my day.
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I can see people's issue with this, but the games I play on console are mostly fighting games. Obviously I can't speak on Xbox One vs PS4, but nearly all of them played better on Xbox 360 than PS3. If that trend keeps then I don't really see an issue with not sharing. I'd rather pay for my own game if it plays well than be able to borrow one that doesn't.
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I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.
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I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.

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Hatamaz wrote:
I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.

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More like the most successful mmo ever created?

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Hatamaz wrote:
I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.

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So, I might just be slow today (happens far more than I like to admit), but what's that got to do with how a controller feels? I'm missing a connection.

I too like the xbox 360 controller better than the ps 2/3 controller design. I have to agree with the thread/internet though that I will not be buying an xbox one. I will probably bet a ps4 eventually for final fantasy and kingdom hearts though. I put off playing kingdom hearts for years and realized what a mistake that was after I finally got to playing them at the urging of a friend.
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Hatamaz wrote:
I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.


Someone might also do the following with the new controllers:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/01/how-to-make-a-ps360-controller/
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This interview was epic fail for Xbox One.... Check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiUzaqOU06M
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Hatamaz wrote:
I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.


Someone might also do the following with the new controllers:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/01/how-to-make-a-ps360-controller/


That is fantastic. I wouldn't trust myself to make it on my own though.

Pretty much everything related to the Xbox One has been epic failure. My favorite is (paraphrase) "We just need to educate them about why this model is better for them, trust us, we know" and "we expected this backlash, we aren't surprised". But this is the same company that brought us Windows ME, Vista, and 8 so...
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Wait, xbox one you cant use used games? Thats hella weak!!
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Not only it can't play used games, you can't play any game unless you have Internet access.
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Wait, xbox one you cant use used games? Thats hella weak!!


Sure you can, you just need to pay full price to unlock the disk Smiley: smile

I haven't heard details on how trading/selling games will work.
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Granted I have only talked to about 10 people about this (personally I mean), but nobody is amused with microsoft's DRM. Most people I know will get a PS4 instead, and most not at launch (we are all poor students/cheap bas****s). I thought their arrogance at the feedback for Windows 8 was incredible, but that was almost open minded compared to this. At least with the 8.1 update to windows, they are giving people some options back.
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Lol thats crazy, i bet after you pay to play the disk youll have to watch a 5 min mountin dew advertisment, wich has you say "Mountin Dew" at key points so it knows your watching it.
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Lol thats crazy, i bet after you pay to play the disk youll have to watch a 5 min mountin dew advertisment, wich has you say "Mountin Dew" at key points so it knows your watching it.

Lmao. Now that would be out of control.
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Lol thats crazy, i bet after you pay to play the disk youll have to watch a 5 min mountin dew advertisment, wich has you say "Mountin Dew" at key points so it knows your watching it.


This made me laugh and then think. It might actually be in line with their new strategy of "publishers before gamers". It would would be whipped cream on the crap sundae they are trying to sell for sure.
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Wait, xbox one you cant use used games? Thats hella weak!!


Sure you can, you just need to pay full price to unlock the disk Smiley: smile

I haven't heard details on how trading/selling games will work.


Here is a decent article with details:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/

Summary:
1.) You will mostly be buying games in a digital format.
2.) Your downloaded library can be shared with friends, or used at your friends house temporarily.
3.) Every 24 hours, the Xbox One checks online to see if the person playing the game is the registered user.
4.) If you don't have internet connection for 24 hours, the ability to play ANY games will be suspended.
5.) Lastly, it will be up to the game's publisher whether they set a limit on trading (giving/selling) used games to friends permanently. For a permanent trade to work, they have to have been on your friends-list for 30 days. It seems they intend to limit the number of times a digital download can change hands to ONCE. It cannot change hands multiple times.

In general this sounds limiting. Perhaps it will seem better after we are used to the idea. Maybe, MAYBE, this is the future and it is actually somehow better for everyone. Not sure about that yet.
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Maybe, MAYBE, this is the future and it is actually somehow better for everyone.


It's not and it won't be. It's just Microsoft being ignorant ******** and refusing to listen to their customers. That's fine, they'll learn their lesson when they get absolutely DOMINATED in sales figures by Sony and independent game developers start pulling the plug on projects, leaving them high and dry.
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The time I most want to play a console game is this:

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It could be days before they fix the Internet. That means quality time with offline games, but Xbox says fack you if it's been more than 24 hours.

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Maybe, MAYBE, this is the future and it is actually somehow better for everyone.


It's not and it won't be. It's just Microsoft being ignorant @#%^s and refusing to listen to their customers. That's fine, they'll learn their lesson when they get absolutely DOMINATED in sales figures by Sony and independent game developers start pulling the plug on projects, leaving them high and dry.


Please, please, I hope you are right.

I am very worried that XB1 will still be a success and MS will just think the "Suck it if you don't like it" attitude is ok.

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Wait, xbox one you cant use used games? Thats hella weak!!


Sure you can, you just need to pay full price to unlock the disk Smiley: smile

I haven't heard details on how trading/selling games will work.


Here is a decent article with details:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/

Summary:
1.) You will mostly be buying games in a digital format.
2.) Your downloaded library can be shared with friends, or used at your friends house temporarily.
3.) Every 24 hours, the Xbox One checks online to see if the person playing the game is the registered user.
4.) If you don't have internet connection for 24 hours, the ability to play ANY games will be suspended.
5.) Lastly, it will be up to the game's publisher whether they set a limit on trading (giving/selling) used games to friends permanently. For a permanent trade to work, they have to have been on your friends-list for 30 days. It seems they intend to limit the number of times a digital download can change hands to ONCE. It cannot change hands multiple times.

In general this sounds limiting. Perhaps it will seem better after we are used to the idea. Maybe, MAYBE, this is the future and it is actually somehow better for everyone. Not sure about that yet.



Thanks for that post! Im just kinda blowin away from what they are doing,
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I've preordered the PS4, but I really like the feel of an xbox controller better. I hope they have somebody who makes an xbox clone controller for the PS4 for people like me who just doesn't like the way the playstation controller feels.

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So, I might just be slow today (happens far more than I like to admit), but what's that got to do with how a controller feels? I'm missing a connection.

I too like the xbox 360 controller better than the ps 2/3 controller design. I have to agree with the thread/internet though that I will not be buying an xbox one. I will probably bet a ps4 eventually for final fantasy and kingdom hearts though. I put off playing kingdom hearts for years and realized what a mistake that was after I finally got to playing them at the urging of a friend.


A majority of people prefer Xbox controllers even though they may not prefer the console over PS, just like a majority of people prefer the features of WoW (ie. user interface, control scheme, ect.) even though they might like the FF series more for other reasons like story, music and the like. I mainly made the statement because they used the word 'clone' which is often used as a jab at other games for including many of the features that made WoW, in the words of Devildawgs "the most successful MMO ever created".


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