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#1 Jun 23 2013 at 6:36 AM Rating: Default
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In 1.0 It wasn't too hard for a low-level player to go from Limsa to Griandia (or vice versa)> Now they have a fee for the ship (knew that was coming) that is somewhat excessive for a low level. Also, teleports no longer allow you to tele people to new areas. Considering airships are now bound to the story line (not really a bad idea), there is no way to get to or from Limsa early on. Of course this is beta, but just wondering what others thought about it.
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#2 Jun 23 2013 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.
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getting an airship pass is a little late in the game i think the quest should be around the lvl 10 mark but the price is spot on. I had 20k and taking the airship was the cheap option compaired to using the teleport system 300-600gil depending where your going.
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I consider it a good thing. Super fast travel makes the world feel small and shallow. I like having to hoof it.. making it to your destination feels like an accomplishment that way. It just makes the game feel more immersive.

Portals/instant travel should come at a high price. A good chunk of Gil/long cooldowns, etc.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2013 9:03am by BrokenFox
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I think they mentioned the ferry cost was glitched or something, and as for the airship pass, lvl 15 is a good lvl for it, 10 would be just too soon, look at 11, in that it cost a ton or you had to get to rank 5 which took alot of work.
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The only reason I say lvl 10 is due to being able to cross class and get gathering but no way to get there. You can walk from grid to uldah but cant get to Limsa without airship/boat. Maybe change and not let us cross class till 15? im not sure just seems a tad off.

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look at 11, in that it cost a ton or you had to get to rank 5 which took alot of work.

In 11 you could walk everywhere if need be.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2013 9:15am by silverhope
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The ferry was excessive - I logged in with my 1.0 character and it cost me over 55k gil to ride. Since its only phase 3 and it gets wiped, I went anyway and won't lose the gil. But no new character is going to have that much gil yet. I think their intent is to keep you local since its just beta.
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The only reason I say lvl 10 is due to being able to cross class and get gathering but no way to get there. You can walk from grid to uldah but cant get to Limsa without airship/boat. Maybe change and not let us cross class till 15? im not sure just seems a tad off.

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look at 11, in that it cost a ton or you had to get to rank 5 which took alot of work.

In 11 you could walk everywhere if need be.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2013 9:15am by silverhope


Kazham would like to have a word with you Smiley: tongue

I could have sworn Limsa was available by boat to anyone.
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There is a fairy to limsa that is true but i believe you also need to do a quest for it or something.
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The ferry was excessive - I logged in with my 1.0 character and it cost me over 55k gil to ride. Since its only phase 3 and it gets wiped, I went anyway and won't lose the gil. But no new character is going to have that much gil yet. I think their intent is to keep you local since its just beta.


This is a known bug.
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Everyone wants to be spoon fed..

If you really, REALLY want to start in another capital, start as one of those classes...You really think something like this should be handed over because a few players aren't "Liking"(or whatever your reason is..) their starter zone?

It's 1-15...I was able to do this in under 5 hours..on two different characters
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Everyone wants to be spoon fed..

If you really, REALLY want to start in another capital, start as one of those classes...You really think something like this should be handed over because a few players aren't "Liking"(or whatever your reason is..) their starter zone?

It's 1-15...I was able to do this in under 5 hours..on two different characters


Yeah, once I truly sat down with the game (this weekend) it felt like I was being sent off from Ul'dah on that airship in no time. And sometimes the "grass in greener". Once I finally arrived at Limsa, a place I anticipated visiting I thought, "no I'm definitely an Ul'dah girl". It really takes no time at all to 'unlock' all three cities.
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Not a big deal about the airship really. After all, I did the Kazham quest and waited until I got Rank 5 in FFXI for the airship pass. Just thought it strange that Donald Trump took over the Limsa boat and I couldn't port anyone who hasn't been there. Didn't know if this was intended or not. I just have this weird habit of getting every aethercite, outpost, flight path, whatever I can even if its way too early in the game.

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They made the deliberate design decision to prevent teleports for people who have not attuned to aetheryte crystals.

The complaint was that in 1.0 people could just find a high level and hitch a free ride to all the camps without having to strike out and explore on their own.

Like power leveling, that got cut right out of ARR.
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They made the deliberate design decision to prevent teleports for people who have not attuned to aetheryte crystals.

The complaint was that in 1.0 people could just find a high level and hitch a free ride to all the camps without having to strike out and explore on their own.

Like power leveling, that got cut right out of ARR.


Not a bad idea really. Even if you have legacy characters, gonna have to learn how to get there all over again. AION is the only game I have seen where flight paths in an area are available without going there first.
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I consider it a good thing. Super fast travel makes the world feel small and shallow. I like having to hoof it.. making it to your destination feels like an accomplishment that way. It just makes the game feel more immersive.

Portals/instant travel should come at a high price. A good chunk of Gil/long cooldowns, etc.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2013 9:03am by BrokenFox


I completely agree. Even those other MMOs require you to take a flightpath on a bird or zeppelin or manually fly/run there (some areas don't allow flight). Teleport portals are not that abundant and only exist between a few areas. I like it better that way.
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ShindaUsagi wrote:
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Everyone wants to be spoon fed..

If you really, REALLY want to start in another capital, start as one of those classes...You really think something like this should be handed over because a few players aren't "Liking"(or whatever your reason is..) their starter zone?

It's 1-15...I was able to do this in under 5 hours..on two different characters


Yeah, once I truly sat down with the game (this weekend) it felt like I was being sent off from Ul'dah on that airship in no time. And sometimes the "grass in greener". Once I finally arrived at Limsa, a place I anticipated visiting I thought, "no I'm definitely an Ul'dah girl". It really takes no time at all to 'unlock' all three cities.


Question for yah ... I started off as Con just to get the back up Cure/Protect/Raise so I only leveled to 12. I did lvl my Arc to 15 and was expecting to access the airships, but i diddnt. Do I have to lvl my original class to 15 b4 access is granted or was there a quest i missed that is preventing airship access?
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Question for yah ... I started off as Con just to get the back up Cure/Protect/Raise so I only leveled to 12. I did lvl my Arc to 15 and was expecting to access the airships, but i diddnt. Do I have to lvl my original class to 15 b4 access is granted or was there a quest i missed that is preventing airship access?

Follow the main quest line and part of it will be getting airship access and traveling to the other cities.
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Like power leveling, that got cut right out of ARR.

Technically couldn't you have a friend cure you while you attack stuff? or are you just saying they made it impractical with how easy it is to level?
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silverhope wrote:
getting an airship pass is a little late in the game i think the quest should be around the lvl 10 mark but the price is spot on. I had 20k and taking the airship was the cheap option compaired to using the teleport system 300-600gil depending where your going.


/facepalm

Since when, is level 15 of 50 levels "a little late in the game"?

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Yes, because clearly only wanting to take Conjurer (Gridania) to level 10 (or 12 for raise) so that you have Cure and Protect for your Marauder (Limsa) and being unable to do so without an Airship Pass is wanting to be spoon fed. OBVIOUSLY we're not supposed to be able to get Marauder until we get airship passes because we can't change classes until then...

....o wait.

That's stupid talk if I've ever heard of it.
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Like power leveling, that got cut right out of ARR.

Technically couldn't you have a friend cure you while you attack stuff? or are you just saying they made it impractical with how easy it is to level?


You could possibly do it that way. That's how PLing was done in XI.

But the PLing in 1.0 was a lot more complex and cheat-ey. A level 50 would be in an alliance, engage a bunch of linked mobs,and then drop alliance. He would solo the monsters and super tank them. People in alliance would get credit for the kills at the higher level of exp since the level 50 wasn't in the alliance to bring exp down.

Some people leveled all the jobs to 50 using this method.
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ahhh, no wonder there are so many with all jobs to 50
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.



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Its really not that big a deal that you get the airship pass as "late" as lvl 15ish. Think ahead to the release. You will probably play this game for hundreds of hours and it takes something like 2 hours to get the airship pass if you just run those main quests.
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Wint wrote:
100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.



Anyone under the age of 25 is highly offended by the bolded point (sample size = my brother and all his friends.)


**** kids need to get off my lawn then.
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#26 Jun 24 2013 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.



Anyone under the age of 25 is highly offended by the bolded point (sample size = my brother and all his friends.)


**** kids need to get off my lawn then.


You forgot to shake your fist.

A question: I'm going to restart my legacy character, will I still be attuned to the atherytes in the cities like I was in 1.0 or will I have to re-attune?
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.



Anyone under the age of 25 is highly offended by the bolded point (sample size = my brother and all his friends.)


**** kids need to get off my lawn then.


You forgot to shake your fist.

A question: I'm going to restart my legacy character, will I still be attuned to the atherytes in the cities like I was in 1.0 or will I have to re-attune?


That's a good one, anyone with a legacy character care to answer?
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I had to in phase 3 with my legacy character.
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I read this in a post somewhere, but due to the changes to the camps players will need to reattune to all aetherytes. This falls in line with my 1.0 character's experience of having to revisit all three capitals to get teleports back.
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#30 Jun 24 2013 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Level 10 > 15 is barely any time at all at this point, perhaps it will change. I'm going to go "hard core" here and say that most people should get through lv15 (when the starter questing slows down) before they hop around to other areas. Give the story you started some time! For the beta it's fine to jet around and try new things, but don't you want to experience the pace of the story/game before you herk-a-jerk around to the next thing?
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.


Huh? I'm pretty sure I hitched a ride with my party to Horizon the other day. Or do you mean you can't get the teleport if you have never been there? Party teleport to discovered location still works.
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100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.


Huh? I'm pretty sure I hitched a ride with my party to Horizon the other day. Or do you mean you can't get the teleport if you have never been there? Party teleport to discovered location still works.


Correct. I'm talking about when people used to port others to camps they hadn't been to yet.
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Wint wrote:
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Wint wrote:
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Wint wrote:
100 gil for an Airship ride is excessive??? I had 15,000 gil by the time I unlocked the Airships from main story quests alone.

I'm glad they shut down the sharing teleport thing, people need to do the legwork, the traveling is this game is already super easy.



Anyone under the age of 25 is highly offended by the bolded point (sample size = my brother and all his friends.)


**** kids need to get off my lawn then.


You forgot to shake your fist.

A question: I'm going to restart my legacy character, will I still be attuned to the atherytes in the cities like I was in 1.0 or will I have to re-attune?


That's a good one, anyone with a legacy character care to answer?


Per the lore, in the calamity all the aetherite crystals were destroyed. They had to be rebuilt, so thats why legacy characters arent attuned to anything when they start.
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