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#1 Jul 02 2013 at 5:15 AM Rating: Default
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"You have been banned for the following reason:
Your posted message may be considered as a violation. We are currently examining it. Please try and log in at a later time. If it’s determined as a violation, your login to the forum will be suspended.

Date the ban will be lifted: 07-12-2013, 02:00 PM
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I think I shouldve been worried about that but the reasoning behind it just made me lol. I argued a number of times about the stupidity of people who get upset about use of terms dps/toon or vice versa dd/character. As FFXIV will have also players from other MMOs people should adapt to changes. Its not like anyones life will crumble just because he/she heard someone say "toon".

I really love the game but people in this community have some serious issues with attitude towards new and/or players from other games.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2013 4:46pm by Wint Lock Thread: Way derailed.
#2 Jul 02 2013 at 5:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I am sorry what exactly did you post that they thought it might be violation? Can you like do a sum cause I didn't understand the cause of the ban.
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#3 Jul 02 2013 at 5:35 AM Rating: Default
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"Why do FFXI(V) players hate on everything so much? Why so much grudge against some more popular games like WoW? Seriously, what does it matter what terms people use? Its not like you'll have to ask "umm what is DPS?". I will keep using toon AND dps terms just to troll on people who are childish enough to be actually annoyed by such a minor things. FFXI(V) community is the least welcoming for new players than any community ever I've seen. So much hostility towards new players its almost worse than in MOBA games... "

I guess that might be the cause. Still its not much of a reason even though I said I would "troll" (It's really not much of trolling if you use some terms over others). I'm just so annoyed by people's attitude towards trivial things like that. It just creates unnecessary bad atmosphere in the community. I know most of the people probably dont give a **** about which term someone uses (as long as its undestandable), but it's the people who have to be so narrow minded about other people's habits that makes me feel quite bad for the community that is brewing up here.

I'm trying to accept people no matter what terms they use or which game they are from. They make the FFXIV community and are part of it even if they arent from FFXI. It's stupid that there even has to be some kind of gap between FFXI players and everyone else. Not to say that EVERY FFXI player is like that, because they are not. And yeah I'm former FFXI player aswell.

Also I dont want to juggle between terminology just because some people don't want to understand what DPS/DD or toon/character is.
#4 Jul 02 2013 at 5:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Your post comes off a bit mean while trying to tell people to be nice. A few words in there could have been left out and a little less name calling. But enough to get banned.. don't think so I have seen a lot worse but some people love that report button if they get their feelings hurt .
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First off, let me say you definitely shouldn't have been banned for saying that. You shouldn't even get a mute. It's just you expressing your opinion and frustration. Second, I could care less on the DPS/DD standpoint, but I definitely am not a fan of when people call their characters a "toon". I just don't like how it sounds. To me, it really trivializes all the work I've put into my character. However, I'm certainly not going berate someone for using it. I'll just cringe for a tenth of a second and move on. No big deal. Third,
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It just creates unnecessary bad atmosphere in the community. I know most of the people probably dont give a **** about which term someone uses (as long as its undestandable), but it's the people who have to be so narrow minded about other people's habits that makes me feel quite bad for the community that is brewing up here.


Don't feel bad for the community. The community as a whole has been absolutely amazing from what I've seen. Sure there are some jerks, elitists, trolls, etc, but the vast majority of players that I've seen have been friendly, willing to help others, and lots of fun. Heck, there was a 300+ lalafell train in Uldah on Ultros a couple weekends ago, and there were another 500 people around them dancing, emoting, and just having a blast. I think the community is doing just fine, and it's one of the things I most look forward to in this game. So I definitely wouldn't worry too much about the community.

Again, sorry you got temp banned though... seems kinda silly.
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#6 Jul 02 2013 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Aye, also ingame community is usually nice than on forums. And yeah I know I could've said that much nicer, but I don't feel like some people are saying it that nicely when they flame someone for using "dps" or "toon". Still, in my opinion not even close to a reason for a temp ban. Anyway I'm not even upset for the ban, just came as a surprise considering the severity of my "crime".

Also, I dont really like the word "toon" either and actually have been using char(acter) even in WoW. Still if someone uses that word its not worth damning them to oblivion for doing so. The hate for "toon" I can understand a bit, but when it comes to DPS vs DD is beyond me.
#7 Jul 02 2013 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Is it bad that I use toon all the time because I cant spell character half the time.. charactor...charectoer,charactur.. man so many options to mess that one up lol. Toon.. is easy heh.
#8 Jul 02 2013 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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You should not do this:
Mekiri wrote:
I will keep using toon AND dps terms just to troll on people who are childish enough to be actually annoyed by such a minor things.

Because:
Mekiri wrote:
It just creates unnecessary bad atmosphere in the community.


This said, you said nothing to be banned, i guess you just ****** off a fanboy mod.
#9 Jul 02 2013 at 7:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Falchetto wrote:
You should not do this:
Mekiri wrote:
I will keep using toon AND dps terms just to troll on people who are childish enough to be actually annoyed by such a minor things.

Because:
Mekiri wrote:
It just creates unnecessary bad atmosphere in the community.


This said, you said nothing to be banned, i guess you just ****** off a fanboy mod.

I hilighted the ban-able text. Yeah it seems silly, but when you specifically stay that you will troll, you have basically told SE (if someone reports the post) to ban you.
#10 Jul 02 2013 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been banned twice on the beta forums for passionately discussing the plethora of whiny topics. I just avoid the place now and only report bugs. Let them whine.
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#11 Jul 02 2013 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mekiri wrote:
Aye, also ingame community is usually nice than on forums.


You will usually get the more outspoken members of a community in the forums. I heard a person say years ago that the people who really enjoy a game are too busy enjoying it to spend time in forums. That's not saying that people in these forums don't enjoy it just as much--even the jaded members. It's just saying that this is a very small portion of a larger community. The FF community has always been pretty friendly compared to others.
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silverhope wrote:
Is it bad that I use toon all the time because I cant spell character half the time.. charactor...charectoer,charactur.. man so many options to mess that one up lol. Toon.. is easy heh.


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It should comfort you to know that some of the best people to party with dont post on the forums, and then there are people who do but not on the official forums.

What you're seeing is a typical MMO forum community. Notice I said Forum community. Sure there are asshats everywhere but I wouldnt consider the posters in the forums to represent the whole of the playerbase.
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Wint wrote:
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Is it bad that I use toon all the time because I cant spell character half the time.. charactor...charectoer,charactur.. man so many options to mess that one up lol. Toon.. is easy heh.


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I was unable to read your post, it had the terms DPS and toon in it....
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#17 Jul 02 2013 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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That deserved a ban?

Really?

Color me surprised.

On an off-topic but slightly related note, why can't I post on the beta forums at all? Anyone know? (Perhaps it's just as good that I can't. Was going to pile on about the shallow combat system.)

EDIT: Another random question: are the forum mods for the English forums based here or Japan?

Edited, Jul 2nd 2013 12:24pm by Yotis
#18 Jul 02 2013 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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That seems really silly. Maybe it's automatic if too many people report the same post until a mod reviews it?
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#19 Jul 02 2013 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not bad enough to get banned but that post is pretty douchebaggy.
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Not bad enough to get banned but that post is pretty douchebaggy.

Yes, I do agree with that. It's just not always easy to hold your temper when reading constant flaming over a pointless things like the terminology. The post itself I posted could have been of a more friendlier tone, but still not reason enough for a ban tbh. It just makes me a bit upset seeing how some people treat newcomers (which I am not btw) on the beta forums even though its like that in almost any game anyway.

I guess I should take a break anyway from reading topics like that, but I guess I have a little ********* inside me wanting to read stuff which annoys me sometimes.

But to get back to the terminology topic. Please for gods sake people, let others use either of these terms you will probably undestand the meaning. Stop the pointless complaining about terms its not worth it as probably both of these "toon/dps" and "dd/character" will stay around and you will keep hearing them.
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I agree with your general message. I find it silly that people get upset when someone uses "toon" or "DPS". They are common MMO terminology now, FFXIV is not special that players can't use that. It really is a silly reason to get upset over.

Then again, I find getting upset over silly names for characters just as dumb.
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Stilivan wrote:
That seems really silly. Maybe it's automatic if too many people report the same post until a mod reviews it?


You know that is not impossible. I have been in sites that have a filter and they will flag some posts and sometimes admins that check those will automatically close/ban the user because it happen to be flagged by the filter and they didn't bother reading what he was saying (it happen to me in the teamspeak forums and when I made another account and made a complain post the admin quickly apologized and offered me a personal assistance with the problem I had woohoo!). So it "could" be that but I don't think so myself.
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No. People that use the abbreviation DPS as a noun are fundamentally retarded and need to be reminded of such or beaten with iron pipes until their insides are on the outside. Damage per second is what you do. "Your DPS is 104.63" is the correct way to use the term. "Monk is a DPS" is idiotic. That translates to "Monk is a Damage Per Second." That is wrong. Monk is a job that does damage. It is a dealer of damage. It can do damage per second, but that doesn't make it a DPS. It's simple English. Similarly "You were driving 100 MPH" is correct, and if you say "My car is a MPH" anyone, and everyone, around you should just smack you. Hard. You deserve it.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2013 1:56pm by lolgaxe
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I guess color yourself lucky someone didn't track you down online and give your address to the police and get you arrested and make you face 8 years in prison for a "terrorist threat"...

Sorry, that news story is still bugging me greatly.
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No. People that use the acronym DPS as a noun are fundamentally retarded and need to be reminded of such or beaten with iron pipes until their insides are on the outside. Damage per second is what you do. "Your DPS is 104.63" is the correct way to use the term. "Monk is a DPS" is idiotic. That translates to "Monk is a Damage Per Second." That is wrong. Monk is a job that does damage. It is a dealer of damage. It can do damage per second, but that doesn't make it a DPS. It's simple English. Similarly "You were driving 100 MPH" is correct, and if you say "My car is a MPH" anyone, and everyone, around you should just smack you. Hard. You deserve it.


Well the terms tank and healer are used in the same manor to be honest. Yeah they are primarily nouns but we still use the terms to describe what the class does, especially tank. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but there you have it. That being said the term toon makes me want to Wayne Brady someone.
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Mekiri wrote:
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Not bad enough to get banned but that post is pretty douchebaggy.

Yes, I do agree with that. It's just not always easy to hold your temper when reading constant flaming over a pointless things like the terminology. The post itself I posted could have been of a more friendlier tone, but still not reason enough for a ban tbh. It just makes me a bit upset seeing how some people treat newcomers (which I am not btw) on the beta forums even though its like that in almost any game anyway.

I guess I should take a break anyway from reading topics like that, but I guess I have a little ********* inside me wanting to read stuff which annoys me sometimes.

But to get back to the terminology topic. Please for gods sake people, let others use either of these terms you will probably undestand the meaning. Stop the pointless complaining about terms its not worth it as probably both of these "toon/dps" and "dd/character" will stay around and you will keep hearing them.


Actually, I misread your post so I take that back. I totally agree with you. People who complain about what labels people use are a**holes.
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