Am i wrong ?
About everything you've stated so far, yes. You see, you have a poor habit of being entirely generalistic. I'm not 'trying' anything. I'm stating the facts, you're glossing over them to try to better a very flawed and opinionated argument.
No you cannot go on and on...
Yes I can.
- Lancer has a FORCED
Critical Skill that is tied in to their self-restoration ability.
- Pugilist's Self Restoration ability is separate, and the Critical enhancement skill is a timed buff with a duration attached.
Want to go another round? I have more.
Also you are trying really really hard, to over exaggerate a system that is shallow, and has no difference whatsoever between one class and the other, as far as abilities are concerned, Lancer and Puglist have no fundamental difference on how they Operate.
I'll explain the fundamental difference once again for you ,as you seem to fail to understand it.
Lancer is a burst
physical damage class. You stack up buffs, push as your damage for as long as the durration sits, and wait for the cooldowns again to burst out your peak damage.
Puglist is a scaling
physical damage class. You maintain
your damage buffs for as long as possible while doling continual damage.
How they operate couldn't be further apart for the fact that they're both physical DPS.
Now i have not tried archer, but i am pretty sure, they have basically the same techniques as both Lancer or Puglist, a dot, some sort of positioning gimick, a slow, and a 10-20% increase dmg technique, oh and an evade.
You're being antagonistic to the core today, aren't you Ostia?
Archer has no
positioning based skills. Archer is the only physical class with a Damage over time based "gimick" as you so call it. It's skillet is actually closer in line with Thamaturge in that regard. The Trait that causes Bloodletter recast to reset is similar to Thunder's Passive Proc. The major difference here is Thundercloud is self-contained within the Thunder debuff itself, and functions only to enhance thunder. Windbit and Venomous Bite effect Bloodletter, a completely separate skill, and resets its cooldown, it does not enhance damage. The proc enables the Archer to use a TP free skill provided the effect triggers once in the 5 DoT Cycles before its cooldown naturally completes.
Both have basically the same moves, they are mirror classes with minor differences
Not even close.
they both have the same positioning requirement in the same skills, one is behind, one is flaking,
Lancer has a singular Rear attack that is their attack initiation for the Chaos Thrust combo, and a Single flanking attack that is the initiation for their Ring of Thorns Combo. These attacks are required to initiate the combo effect on the following skill(s).
Puglist has 2 of each and none
of them are required to continue combo.
Additionally there are no positional requirements on any of Lancer's Skills beyond their initial attack. Pugilist has Positional Bonuses applied to the Oppu-oppu and Raptor forms, one each. meaning you can intiate and follow up from the same angle, or opt to switch mid cycle.
It should be more noted that Puglist's attacks work more in cycles than they do as a combo.
X potency and 20% dmg buff, both have a slow, tho lancer has no requirement for this, pug must use heymaker which is stupid, but whatever, both have evade, there is little to no difference between the two classes as far as abilities are Concerned.
10% reduction in resistances in both cases. Also, Lancer does not have an evasion skill. It is a parry-rate up which is woefully inadequate in their hands.
As far as the DPS debate. You'll have to argue with BG's parsers on that matter. I won't touch epeen contests (especially if you say I'm winning.)
As there is already multiple threads on TP starvation in the feedback section, I won't argue that issue either. You can go ahead and see if your argument holds water with them. I cannot see it as anything short of flamebaiting or willful ignorance on your part. TP 'management' becomes an issue as early as level 20 in my own experience. The current way TP works is unsustainable for long fights.
A note on how insultingly generlist you are being:
I'm going to provide you with an example of your demeanor. In the quoted section is an analogous argument used for only for expression, and not as insult.
There is nothing special about you. You are poorly designed, and boring like all other creatures on this planet. After all, you are composed of mostly water, eat and drink for sustanance, and even have the ability to communicate with other creatures of your species. There are only minor things differentiating you, Ostia, for something like a Lion, or a Dog. We'll completly ignore the fact that they're entirely different species with different methods of meeting the goals of eating and mating. Nor will we look at the fundmental differences in bone structure, body type, etc. You find food, you eat it. You have teeth to cut your meat with, eyes to see with, and are able to vocalize emotion.
Therefore, there is nothing separating you form an animal.
This is how you sound. It's instigating and needs to stop. Edited, Jul 4th 2013 12:15am by Hyrist