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#1 Jul 19 2013 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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I was wanting the opinion of some players who had stuck with FFXIV 1.0, are legacy campaign players, and/or just plan on rolling on the FFXIV ARR Legacy servers upon launch.

I am struggling with whether to continue on my 1.0 character, or to start new in the game. The problem is my 1.0 character was not as well developed as many others that continued to play into the legacy campaign, but I do not want to lose my time spent especially since it was during the painful times when earning a level was rough.

I had the following: 50 CON, 27 THM, 37 BSM, 35 CRP (others at 15, 10 etc.), and about 25 million gil.

Compared to a lot of legacy players I realize that this is not a ton, but at the time of the game it was still a lot of time invested and effort for me. So considering the state of most legacy and 1.0 players, and anticipating how the legacy server economy's will be, what would you suggest?

I am leaning towards starting new, but I am just not sure. I do not want to be stuck with the economy being outside of my means and have everyone at 50. Do you think most legacy players will have several level 50's and enough invested to make what I've earned insignificant? Thanks any feedback will be helpful.

On a side note, do you ever envision Legacy server world transfers to non-Legacy servers and vice versa? Thanks again.

Edited, Jul 19th 2013 9:11pm by v0id182
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#2 Jul 19 2013 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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I'd say keep your 1.0 character. Relearn your classes by playing through and syncing your character down via level sync.

I think you have too many high levels to warrant throwing it all away, in my opinion. If you were level 20 or something and quit within the first couple of weeks, I would suggest differently.

Regarding the separated servers, I remember Yoshi saying they'll open it up after 6 months or so. They won't be separated permanently.

By the way your 25 million gil is now 2,500,000 gil. Everyone's gil had a 0 shaved off.

Edited, Jul 19th 2013 6:20pm by UltKnightGrover
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#3 Jul 19 2013 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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Legacy transfers are estimated to be unlocked 6 months after launch or so. I'd probably say to use that time to level the other jobs if they're of interest, but I can understand your concerns about the economy and how those better invested and with deeper pockets might control it. Another factor I'd consider would be friends. Do you have any from 1.0 who will be restarting? If so, perhaps a bit of incentive. If not, starting totally fresh elsewhere can have its own appeal, too.

Anyway, without knowing how they intend to handle leveling multiple jobs once primary quests dry up, I'd say stick to your Legacy. Because if it winds up being really grindy, you'll have an edge over fresh starters.

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Keep your classes. The game is fresh, so you basically have to relearn things. Why not give yourself an edge? You have tons more options just have one 50 character, and even better since it's a healer. You have a LONG way to go, don't give yourself more work. Hope you enjoy whatever you decide~
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I'm personally starting over on a new server.

My highest job was only level 28 and I had about 100k gil, so it wasnt like it was that big of a deal.
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I agree Kierk, that isn't too much. But if you had several crafts at 35+ and a level 50 battle class, that's too far to simply throw away if I were in his/her shoes.
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#7 Jul 19 2013 at 9:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you're really attached to your character then I would keep it but if you are not start fresh and enjoy the new character experience. That's what I will be doing Smiley: nod

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#8 Jul 20 2013 at 12:44 AM Rating: Good
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I have a similar situation with my 1.0 character. It's got a decent head start on levels. One class at 50, all others ranging from 25-36. Completely broke though. I gave all the money to LS people when I left. So it'd be starting from scratch in that regard.
#9 Jul 20 2013 at 1:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Having multiple characters is much less of an issue in ARR. Even the most basic price plan let's you have 8 characters, so there's no harm trying out a new character with your old one on ice just to see what works better for you.
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Should just keep your character. If you are worried about the economy, there shouldn't be much problem. The way I see it so far from beta, most ppl do dungeon runs for equips. You can even get decent armors from grand company points. So money wise isn't really a big problem
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Don't you get a certain number of character slots with your subscription? What would stop you from having your old character and a new one as well?
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Personally, I have decided to restart. However, my 1.0 character's highest class was 36, so, as others have said, I'm not throwing much away. I want to experience ARR as a "new" player. I plan on giving all my gil and shards from my old character to my new, and I may just leave him in his slot or delete him, I'm not sure.
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#13 Jul 20 2013 at 8:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totally your choice of course but if you spent what you would consider as a good amount of time playing and enjoying your character then I would definitely consider keeping it. I see from your sig you are on Balmung and as I am on that server too I know personally lots of players with jobs at your levels. Having one job at 50 already will give you options in end-game and you will have the excitement of also levelling your character up in other jobs all with the lovely new GUI and ARR bells and whistles.

If you keep your character and if things are just not going your way and it isn't what you had hoped you have always got the option of starting afresh later. Remember if this game does well there will be plenty of people giving it a try for hopefully years to come. I know in FFXI I started in 2006 after the game was well established and it wasn't a problem not being on a new character from the start. If you start new it's very likely that your 'old' character will never be used again and that time investment you put into 1.0 will be for nothing.

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#14 Jul 20 2013 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, but the new character would have to be on the Legacy server and at that point it is no use because my concern is being far behind other legacy players to begin with.

I do have friends that will likely be starting over or picking up even lower level 1.0 characters. Maybe I can convince them to re-up their 1.0 toons. But knowing there will be Legacy transfers is nice because even 6 months from now it will not be wasted, and at the very least some of the 1.0 resources can transfer.

Thanks for all the feedback this really makes me feel better about continuing my 1.0 character. One good thing about the FF community is that there isn't so many elitists and everyone is more open to helping.
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The new character wouldn't have to be on Legacy if you started a new account, only if you decide to use your existing.
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Yes, but the new character would have to be on the Legacy server and at that point it is no use because my concern is being far behind other legacy players to begin with.

I do have friends that will likely be starting over or picking up even lower level 1.0 characters. Maybe I can convince them to re-up their 1.0 toons. But knowing there will be Legacy transfers is nice because even 6 months from now it will not be wasted, and at the very least some of the 1.0 resources can transfer.

Thanks for all the feedback this really makes me feel better about continuing my 1.0 character. One good thing about the FF community is that there isn't so many elitists and everyone is more open to helping.

That was an odd ending...

Edited, Jul 20th 2013 3:26pm by Mopdaddy
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Mopdaddy wrote:
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Thanks for all the feedback this really makes me feel better about continuing my 1.0 character. One good thing about the FF community is that there isn't so many elitists and everyone is more open to helping.

That was an odd ending...

It slipped under my radar before, but I'd also say it's being dreadfully optimistic. Once the new game smell wears, all the asses will be poised to tell us how we do everything wrong and things can only be done a certain way. This gets even more annoying when you're forced to interact with them after a point, hence my usual fear that soloing will amount to diddly in the long term. Not everyone wants to help such jerks, but refusing to do so tends to handicap your progress. Nice guys finish last, etc..
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I think you're over estimating how far behind you are compared to those who continued playing. Yes there were people who had hundreds of millions of gil when servers went down. Many people burned through most of their stash trying to get their relics. I know several people. Personally, I didn't have much time to do anything except run dungeons with my LS, so I'd say I'm in an average position with my 4 million (was 40 million before servers went down). You'll save a lot of time with your character leveled up as far as it is. Also, dont forget that not everybody will be creating a new character. This means there will be plenty of people with characters that will need leveling up. Everybody will be leveling something up including me. I'll have arcanist.

EDIT: Just in case you didn't see Edy's post above, I just wanted to make sure you knew that any new character you create will not be limited to the legacy servers. Legacy servers are reserved only for the characters created before 1.0 went down. Anything created after ARR's launch can go on any server you choose.

Edited, Jul 20th 2013 3:48pm by swisa
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I understand that I can have a new character and it can be on any of the servers, my point is just that creating a new character on the same legacy server as my old one seems very redundant and pointless. Now what I might end up doing is creating a new character on a new server and then transfer my 1.0 to that server when it is available.

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v0id182 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback this really makes me feel better about continuing my 1.0 character. One good thing about the FF community is that there isn't so many elitists and everyone is more open to helping.

That was an odd ending...

It slipped under my radar before, but I'd also say it's being dreadfully optimistic. Once the new game smell wears, all the asses will be poised to tell us how we do everything wrong and things can only be done a certain way. This gets even more annoying when you're forced to interact with them after a point, hence my usual fear that soloing will amount to diddly in the long term. Not everyone wants to help such jerks, but refusing to do so tends to handicap your progress. Nice guys finish last, etc..


I certainly shouldn't have said everyone, there will always be jerks, asses, elitists and trolls to be sure. But in all of my mmo gaming and I've tried most of the major ones, the Final Fantasy community is relatively friendly and helpful. That's all I was saying.
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v0id182 wrote:
I understand that I can have a new character and it can be on any of the servers, my point is just that creating a new character on the same legacy server as my old one seems very redundant and pointless.


I agree, as I'm sure most people here would... what is the point? Roll a new character on a new server and play your old character on the old one. Play whichever you like to play more.


Edited, Jul 20th 2013 9:32pm by FilthMcNasty
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For the OP: Apparently duty finder works with those that aren't on legacy servers. You could use the DF to play with genuinely new players, it isn't separated in that regard.
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Okay, only read through about half of this thread so far, so I apologize if it was mentioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't I see it mentioned that with the character wipe (i.e. between phase 3 and 4, happening right now) any 1.0/Legacy character's classes that WEREN'T at level 50 will be reset as well? For example, if someone has 50 GLD, 50 MRD, 25 BLS and 15 ARC, the only thing carried over from the wipe would be the 50 GLD and the 50 MRD?
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I think the wipes are regarding beta progress only. Whatever someone already had on their 1.0 character is set. Anything they gained during P3 will be wiped. Starting P4 the same way they started P3.
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DragonBourne wrote:
Okay, only read through about half of this thread so far, so I apologize if it was mentioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't I see it mentioned that with the character wipe (i.e. between phase 3 and 4, happening right now) any 1.0/Legacy character's classes that WEREN'T at level 50 will be reset as well? For example, if someone has 50 GLD, 50 MRD, 25 BLS and 15 ARC, the only thing carried over from the wipe would be the 50 GLD and the 50 MRD?


If you think about how you came to this conclusion in the first place, you will realize that the conclusion makes no sense whatsoever.

Legacy characters are being imported in whatever state they were in when the original ended.

Phase 3 was used to test the import process, so now that it is ended, Phase 4 will require the characters to be imported again.

Wiping characters in the beta phase has absolutely zero effect on the original data that will need to be re-imported from the original source.
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I plan on playing my 1.0 char as well a new char at the beginning. I didn't get as far as you did on your 1.0, what little he has will help somewhat when quests dry up in my starting area. After a month or two I may stick with one char, but for now I plan on putting those extra char slots to use. Also, I want to compare new economies to established ones.
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I havent decided really how I will do this as well as OP.

Never reached lvl 50 in 1.0 so right now I am leaning towards creating a new char and truly experience everything fresh again
(And in case I regret that decision my old 1.0 character will be there as plan B)
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The biggest factor for me came down to losing all the crystals on my 1.0 character. It would take many hours to farm an equivalent amount of crystals, and I've got some crafting to do! Other than that, I wouldn't care about re-rolling. I only played 1.0 for a month, so I don't have that much level progress. My 2 highest classes are cnj and btn in their early 20s, and I have like 80k gil, so there isn't a lot of time lost from re-rolling from that perspective. I just want to hit crafting hard at launch.
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DragonBourne wrote:
Okay, only read through about half of this thread so far, so I apologize if it was mentioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't I see it mentioned that with the character wipe (i.e. between phase 3 and 4, happening right now) any 1.0/Legacy character's classes that WEREN'T at level 50 will be reset as well? For example, if someone has 50 GLD, 50 MRD, 25 BLS and 15 ARC, the only thing carried over from the wipe would be the 50 GLD and the 50 MRD?


If you think about how you came to this conclusion in the first place, you will realize that the conclusion makes no sense whatsoever.

Legacy characters are being imported in whatever state they were in when the original ended.

Phase 3 was used to test the import process, so now that it is ended, Phase 4 will require the characters to be imported again.

Wiping characters in the beta phase has absolutely zero effect on the original data that will need to be re-imported from the original source.


Thanks for clarifying that, Ravashack. The thing is I didn't come to that conclusion. I seen it mentioned somewhere. Was most likely a misinformed forum post or something, but nice to have it cleared up regardless of source.
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The biggest factor for me came down to losing all the crystals on my 1.0 character. ... I just want to hit crafting hard at launch.


This. Mainly what I want from my 1.0 character is the shards he has, because unless something changes with Phase 4/Release, those look much harder to come by in ARR vs 1.0.
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