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#1 Jul 28 2013 at 1:06 AM Rating: Decent
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The beta forum says you can switch voice between languages regardless the verson you playing.



Edited, Jul 29th 2013 2:44pm by Wint Lock Thread: Annoying enough that I'm sick of it being bumped.
#2 Jul 28 2013 at 1:46 AM Rating: Good
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Rie Tanaka?

Oooooooh boy. The Twin Vipers leader probably has a little crazy in her somewhere.
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Eri Kitamura :)

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akio ohtsuka is the voice for solid snake
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I hope its better voice acting then ffxiii-2 I had to turn it mute.
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#6 Jul 28 2013 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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Awesome, I will most likely be taking advantage of this!
#7 Jul 28 2013 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope its better voice acting then ffxiii-2 I had to turn it mute.


Japanese voice actors are usually very good (to the point where people would rather listen to the original voice and read subtitles over dubbing), and they're pulling some pretty popular ones into FFXIV (although some were there already, like Rie Tanaka).

You could probably go down that image list as a sign of most popular to least known.
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Ravashack wrote:


Japanese voice actors are usually very good (to the point where people would rather listen to the original voice and read subtitles over dubbing), and they're pulling some pretty popular ones into FFXIV (although some were there already, like Rie Tanaka).

You could probably go down that image list as a sign of most popular to least known.


What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe. As matter of fact, almost all of them sound like a bad hentai video. FFXIV isn't dubbed into English, it was written for English and dubbed into other languages.

Edited, Jul 28th 2013 6:03pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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Japanese voice actors are usually very good (to the point where people would rather listen to the original voice and read subtitles over dubbing), and they're pulling some pretty popular ones into FFXIV (although some were there already, like Rie Tanaka).

You could probably go down that image list as a sign of most popular to least known.


What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe. As matter of fact, almost all of them sound like a bad hentai video. FFXIV isn't dubbed into English, it was written for English and dubbed into other languages.

Edited, Jul 28th 2013 6:03pm by ShadowedgeFFXI


OK, that's a really irritating accusation followed by an opinion and ending in an arrogant troll-bait claim. The only implications you are seeing in what you quoted are your own self-delusional ones. "Usually" does not mean "all" or "most" or "almost all" in any context.
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I am totally going for Japanese voice acting and reading the subtitles.
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#11 Jul 28 2013 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Ravashack wrote:



OK, that's a really irritating accusation followed by an opinion and ending in an arrogant troll-bait claim. The only implications you are seeing in what you quoted are your own self-delusional ones. "Usually" does not mean "all" or "most" or "almost all" in any context.


Spin it that way if you like, but I think you knew what I meant. I'm tired of JP fanboys putting down the English talent just because they prefer weird sounding JP actors. Maybe if you clarified your opinion better, you wouldn't have gotten this response from me. I don't need any grammar lessons either. That's both patronizing and immature.
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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OK, that's a really irritating accusation followed by an opinion and ending in an arrogant troll-bait claim. The only implications you are seeing in what you quoted are your own self-delusional ones. "Usually" does not mean "all" or "most" or "almost all" in any context.


Spin it that way if you like, but I think you knew what I meant. I'm tired of JP fanboys putting down the English talent just because they prefer weird sounding JP actors. Maybe if you clarified your opinion better, you wouldn't have gotten this response from me. I don't need any grammar lessons either. That's both patronizing and immature.


No, you need a reality check. The thread's about the Japanese voice actors. Not the English ones. Notice how the thread title says "Voice Actors for Japanese verson" (sic) up there?

I never said OR implied that the English ones were bad, especially considering we don't even know who they are. Your own anti-Japanese bias is feeding your own paranoia about implying things. Just because there are Japanese voice actors good enough that non-native speakers want to listen to them over their own language speakers does not mean English voice actors suck. That's you sticking your own ridiculous beliefs in my mouth. Anyone coming to that conclusion is clearly looking for an argument that's not there.
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I never said OR implied that the English ones were bad, especially considering we don't even know who they are. Your own anti-Japanese bias is feeding your own paranoia about implying things. Just because there are Japanese voice actors good enough that non-native speakers want to listen to them over their own language speakers does not mean English voice actors suck. That's you sticking your own ridiculous beliefs in my mouth. Anyone coming to that conclusion is clearly looking for an argument that's not there.


I don't have any bias in me regarding JP actors, all I asked for was clarification. I could do without your trollish response though, but thanks for explaining your intentions. Don't pretend that the OP topic isn't an excuse to go off topic either. I've been on these forums long enough to know that there are quite a lot of people that share an anti-English bias. You failure to simply answer my question without resorting to ad hominem attacks on my character is clearly unwarranted. Don't bother responding, just be quiet and learn from your mistakes.
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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I never said OR implied that the English ones were bad, especially considering we don't even know who they are. Your own anti-Japanese bias is feeding your own paranoia about implying things. Just because there are Japanese voice actors good enough that non-native speakers want to listen to them over their own language speakers does not mean English voice actors suck. That's you sticking your own ridiculous beliefs in my mouth. Anyone coming to that conclusion is clearly looking for an argument that's not there.


I don't have any bias in me regarding JP actors, all I asked for was clarification. I could do without your trollish response though, but thanks for explaining your intentions. Don't pretend that the OP topic isn't an excuse to go off topic either. I've been on these forums long enough to know that there are quite a lot of people that share an anti-English bias. You failure to simply answer my question without resorting to ad hominem attacks on my character is clearly unwarranted. Don't bother responding, just be quiet and learn from your mistakes.


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English dubbing in final fantasy games have been pretty good in comparison to stuff like Aion for example. I think it'll be interesting to see how much the localization alters from the original script as Tera altered its plot or something to make it appeal more to the Western audiences.



Edited, Jul 28th 2013 11:12pm by Solonuke
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There's a certain irony when I hear some people claim JP VAs are superior when you find out the person praising them can't even speak Japanese. This basically means they can't discern bad acting even if they were intentionally flaunting it. Anyway, while I wouldn't evoke the hentai card, I do tend to have issues with JP voiced females sounding higher pitched than you'd typically find with English speakers. As well, on the male end, you'll find some JP VAs that sound like they're reading their lines while trying to pass a wicked dump. The simplest way I could describe that is maybe a baritone Gilbert Godfried.

This isn't to say English VAs aren't without flaw and I haven't seen the English cast to really judge, but yeah... subs onry folk just tend to be annoying with their insinuations.
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It's not an MMO but the best voice acting I've ever seen was in The Last of Us. I just totally connected to those two I guess. They were totally real for me.
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LebargeX wrote:
It's not an MMO but the best voice acting I've ever seen was in The Last of Us.
The graphics sound great, too.
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lolgaxe wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
It's not an MMO but the best voice acting I've ever seen was in The Last of Us.
The graphics sound great, too.

Yeah yeah. Hardy har. I was going to edit it before I hit post but I was too lazy. :)

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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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I never said OR implied that the English ones were bad, especially considering we don't even know who they are. Your own anti-Japanese bias is feeding your own paranoia about implying things. Just because there are Japanese voice actors good enough that non-native speakers want to listen to them over their own language speakers does not mean English voice actors suck. That's you sticking your own ridiculous beliefs in my mouth. Anyone coming to that conclusion is clearly looking for an argument that's not there.


I don't have any bias in me regarding JP actors, all I asked for was clarification. I could do without your trollish response though, but thanks for explaining your intentions. Don't pretend that the OP topic isn't an excuse to go off topic either. I've been on these forums long enough to know that there are quite a lot of people that share an anti-English bias. You failure to simply answer my question without resorting to ad hominem attacks on my character is clearly unwarranted. Don't bother responding, just be quiet and learn from your mistakes.


Yes, because it's SO difficult and SO much more insulting to ask "Wait, are you trying to say that all Japanese voice actors are better than English ones?"

Or even the simple "I'm not sure what you mean here, could you clarify this please?"

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For English-speaking voice actors, Claudia Black is great. Of course, she's a regular actress too, but I hear her in games quite a bit.
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In some cases its merely that the english voice acting is so terrible and without effort that the JP VA are preferred. If the English VA's are putting at least some real effort into voicing the characters, i'll prefer them usually since i don't speak japanese. Many dubbed roles for games early on, had TERRIBLE voice actors or barely passable which made the JP VA preferred. The emotions displayed don't require a mastery of the language to understand either, i.e. crying scenes.

That being said... square has had a really good track record for voice acting overall. From final fantasy, down to kingdom hearts.
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Thelastremainingintime wrote:
In some cases its merely that the english voice acting is so terrible and without effort that the JP VA are preferred. If the English VA's are putting at least some real effort into voicing the characters, i'll prefer them usually since i don't speak japanese. Many dubbed roles for games early on, had TERRIBLE voice actors or barely passable which made the JP VA preferred. The emotions displayed don't require a mastery of the language to understand either, i.e. crying scenes.


This is true. With the Japanese ones, the vocational schools for it means that if someone at least passed the classes, there's at least a floor to how bad the quality can go.

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That being said... square has had a really good track record for voice acting overall. From final fantasy, down to kingdom hearts.

I know I don't have complaints about the English speaking voice actors used by SE, but I also know I've heard people complain about Vanille, Hope, Rikku and Tidus with the FF franchise in particular.
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Ravashack wrote:
For English-speaking voice actors, Claudia Black is great. Of course, she's a regular actress too, but I hear her in games quite a bit.

I could name a number of quality VAs that wouldn't be considered mainstream actors, either. As someone that yearns for the animation industry to pick up here in the States and be considered more than kiddy shows, the blanket assumption dubs suck is always annoying. This simply isn't the 80's anymore, let alone PS1 era gaming where half the time English voices were done terribly by JP VAs a la Star Ocean 2 or Symphony of the Night.
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As matter of fact, almost all of them sound like a bad hentai video.
And you know this because...?

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What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe.
Try pitting Crispin Freeman against Hiiyama Nobuyuki. A guy that can't scream if it saved his life against the man that is capable of breaking microphones if he's not careful when he screams.
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