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#1 Aug 04 2013 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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Are there any integrated graphic cards that could run FF XIV even on low settings? I'm looking for a laptop and really liking the idea of a Lenovo Yoga 13 with 5+ battery life, touch screen and slate convertible. I know the Intel 4000 graphics is very low end. Hoping for a Haswell refresh soon. Can it handle it?

I could look at a true gaming laptop but then I'm maxing out at 3 hours of battery and won't be gaming all of the time.

Any suggestions for a sub-$1000 laptop with touch screen and 5+ battery, or am I asking too much?
#2 Aug 04 2013 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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I used this laptop for a bit Link

I was able to play A Realm Reborn on low settings with moderate FPS. Not sure how to laptop GPUs stack up and compare to each other though, maybe someone else can chime in.
#3 Aug 04 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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why are you getting a laptop? is getting a desltop not an option? also if your spending 1k on a laptop you can prolly get one with a graphics card in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230592

a few i found with touchscreens and non intergrated gtaphics
#4 Aug 04 2013 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I already have a great desktop that I built when 1.0 came out and it is still up for the task. I could use a laptop for work purposes and general mobility in the house when the wife is on the desktop. So this is a supplemental machine, not a primary.

#5 Aug 05 2013 at 2:10 AM Rating: Good
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I would imagine that the HD4000 would be enough to play the game on low settings.
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#6 Aug 05 2013 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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MallocArray wrote:
Are there any integrated graphic cards that could run FF XIV even on low settings? I'm looking for a laptop and really liking the idea of a Lenovo Yoga 13 with 5+ battery life, touch screen and slate convertible. I know the Intel 4000 graphics is very low end. Hoping for a Haswell refresh soon. Can it handle it?

I could look at a true gaming laptop but then I'm maxing out at 3 hours of battery and won't be gaming all of the time.

Any suggestions for a sub-$1000 laptop with touch screen and 5+ battery, or am I asking too much?


My Acer doesn't have a touch screen, but it's more than competent enough to play XIV (3500 on high, 6000+ on low) and I got it for $550. It has a GeForce graphics card at that price. I guarantee you can find one with everything you're looking for under 1000. Take a look at newegg or tigerdirect.
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#7 Aug 05 2013 at 7:26 AM Rating: Excellent
I was looking into getting a laptop myself and found a few with graphics cards for under $500. There are quite a few that can be had for under $700 that should perform quite nicely.
#8 Aug 05 2013 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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My laptop is an HP Envy. I played in beta for up to 12 hours in a row some days and had no troubles. I set the settings to maximum and went in and tweaked some things to help my performance a bit. Doing this, I had optimal quality with no extreme strain on my laptop aside from the temperature rising a bit high. If I was going to play for a long time I would prop my computer on an ice and make sure the fan vents were not blocked. I could do this because I have a wireless keyboard, mouse, and ps3 controller that I was using... My computer was just resting next to my TV connected through a HDMI cable. The ice pack thing is completely unnecessary, just an additional precaution for long term use ^^.

check out this guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1jkm9n/lunas_guide_to_optimizing_low_end_system_for_arr/
If you set the settings to max, then follow the tweaks you will get a score of ~2400. Which is "standard." Low to some people, but still.... when I played in beta, everything was beautiful, and I had 0 problems.

It uses Intel HD Graphics 4000.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 8
Version 6.2.9200 Build 9200
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model HP ENVY m4 Notebook PC
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz, 2201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB

I've highlighted some things that you may also want to look for in you laptop if you choose to go that route. These things will also make a difference in your game play. The graphics card isn't working solo to run this game for you ^^

#9 Aug 05 2013 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Caeylen wrote:
My laptop is an HP Envy. I played in beta for up to 12 hours in a row some days and had no troubles. I set the settings to maximum and went in and tweaked some things to help my performance a bit. Doing this, I had optimal quality with no extreme strain on my laptop aside from the temperature rising a bit high. If I was going to play for a long time I would prop my computer on an ice and make sure the fan vents were not blocked. I could do this because I have a wireless keyboard, mouse, and ps3 controller that I was using... My computer was just resting next to my TV connected through a HDMI cable. The ice pack thing is completely unnecessary, just an additional precaution for long term use ^^.

check out this guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1jkm9n/lunas_guide_to_optimizing_low_end_system_for_arr/
If you set the settings to max, then follow the tweaks you will get a score of ~2400. Which is "standard." Low to some people, but still.... when I played in beta, everything was beautiful, and I had 0 problems.

It uses Intel HD Graphics 4000.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 8
Version 6.2.9200 Build 9200
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model HP ENVY m4 Notebook PC
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz, 2201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB

I've highlighted some things that you may also want to look for in you laptop if you choose to go that route. These things will also make a difference in your game play. The graphics card isn't working solo to run this game for you ^^



Blah, I don't mean to sound rude... but I just don't believe you were running the game on max and having no issues with framerate and "optimal quality" with an Intel HD Graphics card. I have the same built-in HD 4000 card, as well as a Geforce 630M 2gb card in my laptop. When I tried running the beta, on lowest settings, with the Intel Card, I got about 4-6 FPS in heavily crowded places and topped out at about 20 FPS in places without a lot of people... on lowest settings. Swapping to my Geforce card was an instant and massive jump in FPS in all areas and overall performance. I also have the same i-7 processor and memory as you, so that's not the problem.

Also, you should never be putting your laptop on top of an icepack. They make specific cooling pads for them, but an ice pack on its own can cause condensation to get into your computer and completely ruin it.
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#10 Aug 05 2013 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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Not to sound rude in reply, but notice I stated that the settings were initially set to max, then I lowered the settings from there. I was not running on max settings, rather... modified max settings for optimal performance with my laptop -- not optimal quality for this game. FPS for the most part was between 20-30. Near Gridania aetheryte or in drybone it did drop significantly; you are right. However, I could run through the game fine without and graphical lag. Only some player characters and NPCs would show up a little slow in heavily crowded areas like mentioned before. In heavily crowded FATEs like Highbridge, I experienced no issues and got my claims on mobs just fine although I'm not sure what my FPS was in these instances.

As for the ice pack... I wrap it in toilet paper and then separate it from the laptop with a small hand towel (I probably should have mentioned this before). It picks up any condensation and leaves my laptop completely dry. While it may sound a bit strange, it works completely fine. The towel even stays completely dry as the toilet paper sucks up any condensation and the pc fans help keep everything dry.
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