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#1 Aug 08 2013 at 6:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Phase 4
The 4th Phase of beta testing (aka Open Beta) has the following schedule:
  • Aug. 16 - If you were in Phase 3, you may begin today
  • Aug. 17 - All others who weren't in closed beta may begin today
  • Aug. 19 - Phase 4 ends
Note: Level progression will be capped at 20 for Open Beta (presumably for fresh start servers), but this progression will be saved for Early Access and beyond, barring a critical bug that requires a reset.

Early Access
Following this, Early Access for those who purchased pre-orders or have the Legacy Subscription Status will occur on these dates:
  • Aug. 24 - Early Access begins
  • Aug. 26 - Early Access ends
  • Aug. 27 - FFXIV:ARR officially launches

Welcome Back Campaign
For anyone who bought and played FFXIV 1.x (the 2010-2012 version of the game) for the PC, SE is letting you download and play FFXIV:ARR for a free trail period.
  • Aug. 27 - Welcome Back Campaign for 1.x players begins
  • Sept. 9 - Welcome Back Campaign free trial ends

Source: Letter from the Producer LIVE Part VIII

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 10:36am by Xoie
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Early access starts 8/24.

So much for having a week for either one. SE sure knows how to under deliver. :-P
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Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod
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Wint wrote:
Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


With about 6 of those days being playable for a good chunk of people as well. :) Happy chappy here!
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I might be 50 with my WHM by then that is a ton of days to play.
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I guess on the bright side I won't have to call in to work and take some personal days in the next couple weeks since I'm off the whole time it's up. Hopefully they won't try to schedule any training for my new position on that Friday, I will have to tell them that there is no way XD.
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I might be 50 with my WHM by then that is a ton of days to play.


phase 4 is capped at level 20 for that exact reason.
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Wint wrote:
Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


Meh. 6 days of early play is more than most MMOs, but either there was a previous mistranslation or... I dont know what, because I read comments from SEs own CR team of Yoshi saying P4 was a week. I think that is the only truly disappointing part.

In the long run, all that matters is how smoothly the game launches and how good it is, but I am sort of amazed at their ability to create disappointment through poor information management. If it's just going to be the last two weekends before launch they could presumably have said that a long time ago.

Too much suspense for underwhelming news is all.
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I've been saving and saving on these vacation days ;P not to mention it starts open beta 4 the day after my birthday... looks like ill be playing beta 4 up into a few days after launch while being paid... couldn't be happier!
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BartelX wrote:
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I might be 50 with my WHM by then that is a ton of days to play.


phase 4 is capped at level 20 for that exact reason.

They got lucky then. That's good though b.c I level fast.
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Im cool with any start date actually, the slight progression gained is so little considering ppl will be in this for utterly years.

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Wint wrote:
Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


Meh. 6 days of early play is more than most MMOs, but either there was a previous mistranslation or... I dont know what, because I read comments from SEs own CR team of Yoshi saying P4 was a week. I think that is the only truly disappointing part.

In the long run, all that matters is how smoothly the game launches and how good it is, but I am sort of amazed at their ability to create disappointment through poor information management. If it's just going to be the last two weekends before launch they could presumably have said that a long time ago.

Too much suspense for underwhelming news is all.


Honestly, I think it's enough that FFXIV is now a game people want more time to play. Smiley: nod
#13 Aug 08 2013 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
Bah, I'll be out of town that weekend Smiley: mad
#14 Aug 08 2013 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
I'd rather have them polishing things up at this point, instead of giving us a full week+ of playing time. We've waited this long for launch, a few more days shouldn't give you cold sweats.
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Updated with Welcome Back Campaign info. Smiley: thumbsup
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Beta Forums are hilarious.
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KarlHungis wrote:
Wint wrote:
Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


Meh. 6 days of early play is more than most MMOs, but either there was a previous mistranslation or... I dont know what, because I read comments from SEs own CR team of Yoshi saying P4 was a week. I think that is the only truly disappointing part.



Like I said yesterday, when he said "1 week" he probably meant the process of Phase 4 is one week. Like Phase 3 was 5 weeks. The community assumed it was going to be 24/7 play time for a week. Just like they had assumed, "there may be a longer than a weekend test near the end of phase 3" = weeklong testing.
#18Ehllfire, Posted: Aug 08 2013 at 9:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS
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Early Access
Following this, Early Access for those who purchased pre-orders or have the Legacy Subscription Status will occur on these dates:
  • Aug. 24 - Early Access begins
  • Aug. 26 - Early Access ends
  • Aug. 27 - FFXIV:ARR officially launches



Technically, there is no ending to Early Access. They won't shut off the servers, you can play straight through.

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:30am by Louiscool
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Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:21am by Ehllfire


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I'm kind surprised people aren't complaining about the "benefits" of paying for 90days+ upfront and bribing us with reasons to do so.
#22Ehllfire, Posted: Aug 08 2013 at 9:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not really. Just my pessimist side peaking through after hearing of the level cap. As if I could get a class to 50 in 2.5 days
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Ehllfire wrote:
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Ehllfire wrote:
Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:21am by Ehllfire


You're just full of **** and vinegar this morning aren't you?


Not really. Just my pessimist side peaking through after hearing of the level cap. As if I could get a class to 50 in 2.5 days


Maybe you couldn't, but others could. 24/7 playing for 2.5 days and I'd expect some players at cap. I think it's excellent that they've capped phase 4 at 20, and in fact, I wouldn't mind an early access cap either. Will give me more time to level up my crafting classes.
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BartelX wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
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Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:21am by Ehllfire


You're just full of **** and vinegar this morning aren't you?


Not really. Just my pessimist side peaking through after hearing of the level cap. As if I could get a class to 50 in 2.5 days


Maybe you couldn't, but others could. 24/7 playing for 2.5 days and I'd expect some players at cap. I think it's excellent that they've capped phase 4 at 20, and in fact, I wouldn't mind an early access cap either. Will give me more time to level up my crafting classes.


For me, it's bad timing. Classes start on Aug 26th, so while I agree with the cap, I'm pretty sour about it because by the time the game goes live, I'm gonna have to deal with school work. I'm contemplating preordering the game (and I'm a 1.0 non-legacy player) just so I can have that enjoyment time.
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I'm trying to help my friend figure out what he would get access to from 1.0. He had bought the collectors edition for 1.0, but didn't play it for very long due to lag issues. So he never hit a point where he had to pay the subscription.

As such, I would assume that he does not fall under the "Legacy Subscription Status" for early access. So I'm guessing that he should get the following:
- Free download of the game (doesn't have to buy a copy of the game)
- Free trial access from release until Sep 9.
- NO early access

Does that sound correct?
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I'm kind surprised people aren't complaining about the "benefits" of paying for 90days+ upfront and bribing us with reasons to do so.


No.. if you want to pay 90 days upfront you can so you get items asap. If you decide to just play as normal and pay monthy you will get the items in due time. Either way you get the items jsut depends on when.
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I'm disappointed with the p4 and early access times, but I'm glad I now know. Once 8/27 hits, it'll all be in the past anyway.
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No.. if you want to pay 90 days upfront you can so you get items asap. If you decide to just play as normal and pay monthy you will get the items in due time. Either way you get the items jsut depends on when.


"Veteran Rewards: various bonuses depending on how long you subscribe. Includes different subscription models. If you do 30, 60 or 90 days there will be thank you gifts such as pointer minion (30 days) and different mounts. Another is a character remake ticket. Black chocobo chick and black cascadier uniform (swimsuits) voucher for 60 days. Ahriman minion and Ahriman mount for 90 days. Will have 120, 180 day subscription models for more rewards. You pay upfront for the time and then you receive the rewards. For example by starting with a 90 day subscription, you receive the 30 day and 60 day rewards on top of 90 day rewards."

I hope you're right, but judging from the notes, it's not confirmed.

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Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:21am by Ehllfire


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No.. if you want to pay 90 days upfront you can so you get items asap. If you decide to just play as normal and pay monthy you will get the items in due time. Either way you get the items jsut depends on when.


"Veteran Rewards: various bonuses depending on how long you subscribe. Includes different subscription models. If you do 30, 60 or 90 days there will be thank you gifts such as pointer minion (30 days) and different mounts. Another is a character remake ticket. Black chocobo chick and black cascadier uniform (swimsuits) voucher for 60 days. Ahriman minion and Ahriman mount for 90 days. Will have 120, 180 day subscription models for more rewards. You pay upfront for the time and then you receive the rewards. For example by starting with a 90 day subscription, you receive the 30 day and 60 day rewards on top of 90 day rewards."

I hope you're right, but judging from the notes, it's not confirmed.



Well crap, I'll buy a year's worth. Now give me a house.
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I'm trying to help my friend figure out what he would get access to from 1.0. He had bought the collectors edition for 1.0, but didn't play it for very long due to lag issues. So he never hit a point where he had to pay the subscription.

As such, I would assume that he does not fall under the "Legacy Subscription Status" for early access. So I'm guessing that he should get the following:
- Free download of the game (doesn't have to buy a copy of the game)
- Free trial access from release until Sep 9.
- NO early access

Does that sound correct?


That is correct. He will also get the 2.0 CE goodies (Warrior of Light helm, Coreul mount, Baby Behemoth minion and Behemoth barding). My situation is the same as his. I wanted early access so I preordered.
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This game cant release any sooner! Man this year will be full of good games~
I shall take a break in wow probably to play this.

Now if only I could figure out if the CE goodies/early access, is the same as the Game license key. I wanted to share the CE license with someone but keep the items for myself.
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Well sadly Phase 4 starts on the weekend of the Gen-Con so I will not be playing. It gives my friends time to decide their characters and for me to figure out what I want to play and where I want to start.
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Early access starts 8/24.

So much for having a week for either one. SE sure knows how to under deliver. :-P


I actually feel a bit slighted by this. Early access would not be interpreted as 3 days. Both 1.0 and Rift gave more time than that for a headstart. I don't care as much about when as I do about how much time we actually get. I'll wait another month for a better game, but we should still get more than 3 days considering the way they presented the CE deal.
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Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


We paid for it. I don't care how they feel. Early access was presented as part of the CE package, just like the mini-st and mount. Based on previous early access incentives, I think we all expected more than 72 hours and SE knew that.
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Beta Forums are hilarious.


Indeed, especially with the level of denial and delusions. Btw, looks like that leaked August 17th date was correct, despite people here also saying it made no sense for it to be the 17th.

Those of us who dealt with SE in terms of MMOs since 2001 already knew it made perfect sense since it's SE.
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Beta Forums are hilarious.


Indeed, especially with the level of denial and delusions. Btw, looks like that leaked August 17th date was correct, despite people here also saying it made no sense for it to be the 17th.

Those of us who dealt with SE in terms of MMOs since 2001 already knew it made perfect sense since it's SE.


I'm almost tempted to pop over and see how bad it is, maybe later if I need a laugh. The best way to deal with SE as far as making sense goes is figure out what makes the most sense, then come up with the exact opposite. 50/50 chance it's that or something that makes even less sense.
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BartelX wrote:
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Any links to the new client yet? Any news on when we register early access codes? And please SE dont level cap early access too the phase four cap is utter BS

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 11:21am by Ehllfire


You're just full of **** and vinegar this morning aren't you?


Not really. Just my pessimist side peaking through after hearing of the level cap. As if I could get a class to 50 in 2.5 days


Maybe you couldn't, but others could. 24/7 playing for 2.5 days and I'd expect some players at cap. I think it's excellent that they've capped phase 4 at 20, and in fact, I wouldn't mind an early access cap either. Will give me more time to level up my crafting classes.


Yes as a guy that must hit cap asap, I like that they did this. I don't actually race I just can't stand not being level cap. I do the same thing IRL I start building a deck and the guys working with me have to tell me to stop or I just keep working. I have always been that way doing book reports when I was a child the day or day after they were assigned even though they weren't due for 2 weeks. I wake up early and do everything important in the morning.
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Beta Forums are hilarious.


Indeed, especially with the level of denial and delusions. Btw, looks like that leaked August 17th date was correct, despite people here also saying it made no sense for it to be the 17th.

Those of us who dealt with SE in terms of MMOs since 2001 already knew it made perfect sense since it's SE.


Yeah, I posted the info here for the August 17 date when it was first discovered about 2 weeks ago.. people freaked out and I got down-voted like crazy for it... But it wound up being true... glad we had some forewarning so we wouldn't be completely distraught today.
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My friend from Chicago is flying in to visit on the 16th to visit me before going to her family's place on the 17th. I might get just enough time to jump through the opening scenes that Friday. Then again, I am not one to sprint to the end of games anymore so this will work out well... and I get to see a friend I have known for well over 20 years. I suspect it will be a good weekend all the way to Sunday.
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I guess on the bright side I won't have to call in to work and take some personal days in the next couple weeks since I'm off the whole time it's up. Hopefully they won't try to schedule any training for my new position on that Friday, I will have to tell them that there is no way XD.


I hear you, I took the whole week off just for this muahaha.
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That weekend is enough time to get my mineing and gold smithing to level 20! Cant wait.
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Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod



Wow 19 days, that is getting close. I try not to think about it and get stuff done now. Almost wish I had a little more time. Cancelling my FFXI at the beginning of the month and waiting for this I have got a ton done.

I know once this game starts nothing gets done for a while.

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No.. if you want to pay 90 days upfront you can so you get items asap. If you decide to just play as normal and pay monthy you will get the items in due time. Either way you get the items jsut depends on when.


"Veteran Rewards: various bonuses depending on how long you subscribe. Includes different subscription models. If you do 30, 60 or 90 days there will be thank you gifts such as pointer minion (30 days) and different mounts. Another is a character remake ticket. Black chocobo chick and black cascadier uniform (swimsuits) voucher for 60 days. Ahriman minion and Ahriman mount for 90 days. Will have 120, 180 day subscription models for more rewards. You pay upfront for the time and then you receive the rewards. For example by starting with a 90 day subscription, you receive the 30 day and 60 day rewards on top of 90 day rewards."

I hope you're right, but judging from the notes, it's not confirmed.



Well crap, I'll buy a year's worth. Now give me a house.


I think why we aren't throwing a fit is because it's actually a good idea. I am a month to month guy, not because I can't afford more but my work/life schedule is constantly changing. But for someone who knows they will be playing for a while can get the benefits.

We have to remember, this is a business and if they can get as much money upfront then the better for them.

It's a lot better than the Pay to Win models out there, that's for sure.
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Eh, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. People who don't get early access will complain if you get too much of a head start, people who have early access think it's not enough time. Look at it this way, only 19 days until the game is up for good Smiley: nod


Meh. 6 days of early play is more than most MMOs, but either there was a previous mistranslation or... I dont know what, because I read comments from SEs own CR team of Yoshi saying P4 was a week. I think that is the only truly disappointing part.

In the long run, all that matters is how smoothly the game launches and how good it is, but I am sort of amazed at their ability to create disappointment through poor information management. If it's just going to be the last two weekends before launch they could presumably have said that a long time ago.

Too much suspense for underwhelming news is all.


The thing is, people were basing early access off of a false/botched advertisement some australian website released claiming early access was 7 days long probably to try and drum up sales. SE even went on the record saying that early access dates have not been released and had the ad removed. But you know the internet. Someone posted it on the beta forums as fact and the rest is history.

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OMG, it reminds me of a bunch of kids sitting in the play room with legos and another bigger kid coming by and taking them all. They never fail to underwhelm over there.
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I guess the exact time on the 16th has not been determined?
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I guess the exact time on the 16th has not been determined?


You would be right, but if I had to gander a guess, based on previous beta tests, I'd be inclined to say 2 AM PST (5 am EST).
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OMG, it reminds me of a bunch of kids sitting in the play room with legos and another bigger kid coming by and taking them all. They never fail to underwhelm over there.


Bored so checked it out...

Holy crap.

Only time I ever went there was to report bugs, but if it's always like that I'm really glad I didn't.
#51 Aug 08 2013 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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DragonBourne wrote:
Gnu wrote:
I guess the exact time on the 16th has not been determined?


You would be right, but if I had to gander a guess, based on previous beta tests, I'd be inclined to say 2 AM PST (5 am EST).


Bah.

I'm looking forward to hearing both the start and end times. Depending on when on the 19th B4 ends we'll either get a couple of hours Monday, or most of a day.
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