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#1 Aug 17 2013 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
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Beta forums just crashed. The sticky where u put your name and server for 3102 jumped over 3000 pages in 10min. Hope this doesnt mean char deletion

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 1:33am by valc0re
#2 Aug 17 2013 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I'm worried too, Might end up wiping... Seems like it's almost everyone in NA.. Guess it's bed time, I don't wanna sleep!
#3 Aug 17 2013 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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My friend is on and says there's a lot of people playing just fine. He's even running Copperbell and stuff.
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valc0re wrote:
Hope this doesnt mean char deletion


You mean like a complete character wipe or just beta version. Where is this information coming from? Smiley: frown
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#5 Aug 18 2013 at 12:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Man... The people that got to write in that forum are lucky. I wish I had knew about that forum... Hopefully they can do something to fix all of them, since there are so many.
#6 Aug 18 2013 at 12:19 AM Rating: Default
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Double post

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 2:23am by valc0re
#7 Aug 18 2013 at 12:21 AM Rating: Default
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They said char wouldnt be wiped unless major problems arose.. Lookin like big problems atm. God i hope they dont.
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Seriously? Why would this result in a wipe?

Wipes are reserved for major things like experience/gil/etc exploits and the like.

This is likely little more than a server or database issue, unless there is some massive problem that has corrupted the data of all the players unable to log in no one is getting wiped from this.
#9 Aug 18 2013 at 1:41 AM Rating: Good
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Outside of major expoits/bugs that allow people to circumvent requirements or accomplish things they shouldn't be able to at this point there shouldn't be a wipe.
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#10Ehllfire, Posted: Aug 18 2013 at 1:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Unless half the player pop cant because their data is lost
#11 Aug 18 2013 at 3:09 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not even half the population, its maybe one servers worth of people. and even still, there is no sort of exploit involved. I am doubtful of a wipe simply because of server issues.
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valc0re wrote:
Beta forums just crashed. The sticky where u put your name and server for 3102 jumped over 3000 pages in 10min. Hope this doesnt mean char deletion

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 1:33am by valc0re

Why are people so hung up about their beta characters?

This is not a race or anything like that. If I had a choice between either a working game or a deleted beta character I would choose the working game any day.
#13 Aug 18 2013 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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I could care less if they wipe beta chars or not. I'm actually thinking about restarting from scratch at release anyhow. I'm gimping myself working around level caps and stuff. EXP sources are scarce enough for off classes as it is and wasting it, no matter how minute, on a level cap is something that is not sitting well with me.
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Arnulf wrote:
valc0re wrote:
Beta forums just crashed. The sticky where u put your name and server for 3102 jumped over 3000 pages in 10min. Hope this doesnt mean char deletion

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 1:33am by valc0re

Why are people so hung up about their beta characters?

This is not a race or anything like that. If I had a choice between either a working game or a deleted beta character I would choose the working game any day.

Why can't a game work without having to delete everything is the real question.

They are not helping by having the forums down, double that with the lack of any responsible new from them.

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 7:57am by Mopdaddy
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Beta forums just crashed. The sticky where u put your name and server for 3102 jumped over 3000 pages in 10min. Hope this doesnt mean char deletion

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 1:33am by valc0re

Why are people so hung up about their beta characters?

This is not a race or anything like that. If I had a choice between either a working game or a deleted beta character I would choose the working game any day.

Why can't a game work without having to delete everything is the real question.

They are not helping by having the forums down, double that with the lack of any responsible new from them.

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 7:57am by Mopdaddy


There down because of congestion... Too many people with issues.
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#17ArkKenea, Posted: Aug 18 2013 at 7:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Haha, Can't login for over 12 hours, and it's happening to alot more than one servers worth of people, I'd say that's a massive gamebreaking bug. Wipe imminent.
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We can't log in because the servers think we're still playing. I was kicked out at the end of a cutscene, so to the game, it's still waiting for me to click the dialog box a few times.

I'm not sure when everyone else got kicked out, but if it's happening at the start/end of cutscenes, I'd say the likeliest scenario is that you'd lose the progress of that cutscene (means I have to fight the golem again) but nothing before.

For those wondering how such a terrible bug made it all the way through betas 1-3, this is the first time it happened. Back in beta 3 if there was a CS/battle you wanted to do and the server that handles that instance was overwhelmed, you just got an error that you were unable to enter the battlefield and should try again later. The current bug likely came out as a result of the fix to that issue.
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#19 Aug 18 2013 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
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ArkKenea wrote:
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It's not even half the population, its maybe one servers worth of people. and even still, there is no sort of exploit involved. I am doubtful of a wipe simply because of server issues.


Haha, Can't login for over 12 hours, and it's happening to alot more than one servers worth of people, I'd say that's a massive gamebreaking bug. Wipe imminent.


Um, not to be a fly in your cheese, but why would they wipe things due to tech issues related to server congestion?

The issues are because the servers cannot handle the amount of connections coming into them at the moment. The same issue that hits every MMo on release, as well as any other online game. A wipe would elongate the issue, as it would result in the same problem when the game goes live too.

If anything they would be doing everything they can to never have to wipe because it would result in a tonne more work for the developers, as well as a delayed release.

You can't be very bright.
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#20 Aug 18 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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We can't log in because the servers think we're still playing. I was kicked out at the end of a cutscene, so to the game, it's still waiting for me to click the dialog box a few times.

I'm not sure when everyone else got kicked out, but if it's happening at the start/end of cutscenes, I'd say the likeliest scenario is that you'd lose the progress of that cutscene (means I have to fight the golem again) but nothing before.

For those wondering how such a terrible bug made it all the way through betas 1-3, this is the first time it happened. Back in beta 3 if there was a CS/battle you wanted to do and the server that handles that instance was overwhelmed, you just got an error that you were unable to enter the battlefield and should try again later. The current bug likely came out as a result of the fix to that issue.


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We can't log in because the servers think we're still playing. I was kicked out at the end of a cutscene, so to the game, it's still waiting for me to click the dialog box a few times.

I'm not sure when everyone else got kicked out, but if it's happening at the start/end of cutscenes, I'd say the likeliest scenario is that you'd lose the progress of that cutscene (means I have to fight the golem again) but nothing before.

For those wondering how such a terrible bug made it all the way through betas 1-3, this is the first time it happened. Back in beta 3 if there was a CS/battle you wanted to do and the server that handles that instance was overwhelmed, you just got an error that you were unable to enter the battlefield and should try again later. The current bug likely came out as a result of the fix to that issue.


I had no issues with this error pre phase 4.. But it booted me when I exited the sands hideout to vesper bay and kept giving me this error.. I went to bed woke up and still getting this error.. Tried to log onto unother character in another world gave me this error again.. tried creating a new character and it STILL says it.. About to try another account.. Ill let you know if it says it again.. one sec

Edit: logged on my friends account it let me through.. seems to really be an account issue.. This is annoying lol.. Call center is only opened monday thru friday. I sent an email to SE. Ill let you know what they say when they respond.

Edited, Aug 18th 2013 9:57am by SaitoMishima
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From what we can tell, Saito, the entire account with the character in limbo is stuck unless you choose to access a character on a JP based server (which has a different lobby server to go through).

For everybody who dismisses the problem as standard beta, I propose we consider this like a fire drill where we find that a large portion of the occupants of a building will die a horrible death if it was a real fire. It is a failure and it needs to be corrected.
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#22 Aug 18 2013 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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ArkKenea wrote:
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It's not even half the population, its maybe one servers worth of people. and even still, there is no sort of exploit involved. I am doubtful of a wipe simply because of server issues.


Haha, Can't login for over 12 hours, and it's happening to alot more than one servers worth of people, I'd say that's a massive gamebreaking bug. Wipe imminent.


Um, not to be a fly in your cheese, but why would they wipe things due to tech issues related to server congestion?

The issues are because the servers cannot handle the amount of connections coming into them at the moment. The same issue that hits every MMo on release, as well as any other online game. A wipe would elongate the issue, as it would result in the same problem when the game goes live too.

If anything they would be doing everything they can to never have to wipe because it would result in a tonne more work for the developers, as well as a delayed release.

You can't be very bright.


You start with "not to be a fly in your cheese" as if you don't want to be rude, but then insult my intelligence, hmm?

How is this simply related to server congestion, Half the game population can't log in because the game thinks they're still logged in, I'd say it's an issue caused by the lack of an idle-timer.

Yes, it's obvious they're doing everything they can not to have a wipe, Considering there's less than 24 hours left of the beta phase and an unprecedented number of people are still affected by this, many of them being affected since the very beginning of the phase, that means they have 24 hours to figure out a fix to the bug, if they don't, chances are that will be considered the big bug that necessitates a wipe.

And to end this on the same note you did, You're a ****.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. What would a wipe solve that wouldn't just come back as soon as they bring the servers back up?
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Yes, it's obvious they're doing everything they can not to have a wipe, Considering there's less than 24 hours left of the beta phase and an unprecedented number of people are still affected by this, many of them being affected since the very beginning of the phase, that means they have 24 hours to figure out a fix to the bug, if they don't, chances are that will be considered the big bug that necessitates a wipe.


Because a technical issue like this one isn't what gets you a wipe. An exploit or bug that creates economic or progression imbalance is. One way or the other, at the end of the beta phase everyone is logged out because the server is shut down. The key for them at that point is fixing the issue that caused that to happen.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. What would a wipe solve that wouldn't just come back as soon as they bring the servers back up?


I'm personally thinking, if they can't fix it by the end of the phase here, they'll probably push back launch and have another phase of beta, but that's just speculation.
#26 Aug 18 2013 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Man... The people that got to write in that forum are lucky. I wish I had knew about that forum... Hopefully they can do something to fix all of them, since there are so many.


Unless they write some script to parse through the

World: worldNameHere
Character: characterFirstName characterLastName

not many of those who made a post will get manually removed even in a week. I wish they would just shut the servers down to force log everyone.
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