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#1 Aug 18 2013 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Is starting as an Arcanist a requirement for becoming a Scholar or can we start the game as a Conjurer instead?
#2 Aug 18 2013 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
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Typically you would start as a arcanist since you need to level it to 30 but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to take CON to 15 and then pick up arcanist.
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#3 Aug 18 2013 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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To become a SCH you need con at least 15, so you could start as a con, get the main quest done, airship to Limsa, then level Arcanist.
#4 Aug 18 2013 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks so much! I was really hoping that was the case because the starting story in Gridania is much more to my liking than Limsa.
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You can start on any class and later level any other class after you've reached level 10 on the class you started with.
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#6 Aug 18 2013 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't forget bonus XP though. So if you want to spend LESS time being a CNJ, level ACN first for that sweet bonus XP from you're higher level job.
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#7 Aug 18 2013 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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FlixEffect wrote:
Don't forget bonus XP though. So if you want to spend LESS time being a CNJ, level ACN first for that sweet bonus XP from you're higher level job.

True - but given they're in separate cities, if they are the first class you level in each respective city, you have all those first-time quests in & around the city/nearby hamlets. They can get you to 15 pretty easily, along with a little work in the hunting log. Also, if you haven't run them, save the early guildhests for 2nd class. Even the first one - it gives 650 exp by default, but first time bonus + no KO pushes it to around 6k exp!
#8 Aug 18 2013 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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You would want to level CNJ higher than 15 anyway, at least to get Stoneskin and Raise.
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#9 Aug 19 2013 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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Khornette wrote:
You would want to level CNJ higher than 15 anyway, at least to get Stoneskin and Raise.

Raise is lvl 12.
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#10 Aug 19 2013 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I feel real iffy about leveling my new CNJ too far past 20. Stoneskin maybe nice to have but I don't see it as a need for my incoming SCH. Our heals will already come with a built in "stoneskin"
#11 Aug 19 2013 at 5:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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svlyons wrote:
Khornette wrote:
You would want to level CNJ higher than 15 anyway, at least to get Stoneskin and Raise.

Raise is lvl 12.

I started CNJ planning to hit 12, but I took it to 15 anyway. I don't plan to do WHM anytime soon (will prob bring SCH up 2nd/3rd job), but enough jobs have a 15 CNJ sub-requirement that having to get it back out for 3 levels made it far easier to just push through, and leave it in the sheds for a while.
#12 Aug 19 2013 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Could someone please be kind enough to tell me where the source of this information is? The main website says nothing about prerequisites for the SMN or SCH classes...

Thanks!!
#13 Aug 19 2013 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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I want to do SCH so i leveled my CNJ first to 20, then worked on ARN. I could have done ARN first but honestly, I feel a ARN without CNJ, or THA spells for that fact, is pretty much half-assin' their ARN potential. A ARN is good but a ARN with raise and protect is better.
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#14 Aug 20 2013 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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Alyndr wrote:
Could someone please be kind enough to tell me where the source of this information is? The main website says nothing about prerequisites for the SMN or SCH classes...

Thanks!!

SMN and SCH are jobs. You have to level Classes - Arcanist to 30 and it's main sub class to 15 (CNJ is assumed to be). Ones you unlock the jobs your SCH,SMN, ARN will gain exp together regardless of which one you are physically using. Its impossible to use SMN or SCH without having leveled ARN first.
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Deathbuyer wrote:
Alyndr wrote:
Could someone please be kind enough to tell me where the source of this information is? The main website says nothing about prerequisites for the SMN or SCH classes...

Thanks!!

SMN and SCH are jobs. You have to level Classes - Arcanist to 30 and it's main sub class to 15 (CNJ is assumed to be). Ones you unlock the jobs your SCH,SMN, ARN will gain exp together regardless of which one you are physically using. Its impossible to use SMN or SCH without having leveled ARN first.

Yeah - I believe it has been datamined, but I don't have proof, no - but, a good guide is, through the abilities lists at http://xivdb.com, check the "equippable classes" list at the bottom of each ability. The Jobs that can use the ability are listed at the end. The cross-classable CNJ & THM abilities can be used by both SCH & SMN. There may be something we don't expect with having 2 "sub" classes for a dual-job class like ACN, but it's a start.

As Death said - Arcanist is the base class. Summoner & Scholar are specialised Jobs for this class. Think of Jobs as "stances" for a base class - it restricts your cross-classable abilities, but grants new Job-specific abilities that help specialise your role. SMN enhances the DPS capabilites of the class - a new damage-based summon (Ifrit) in addition to replacing Carby with better versions (Garuda - magic dmg, Titan - tank) and a couple of new spells. SCH turns you full healer/support - 2 fairies that focus on healing & support, plus some more healing spells for the PC.
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