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#1 Aug 19 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
I've made a couple posts about this before but I was wondering if you guys would post your thoughts.

Yoshida said that the marriage option would only be added for a straight couple, but a GM recently posted that they're open to feedback on the subject.

What do you think? Should two male or two female characters be allowed to marry on ARR? Before the beta ended there was a huge discussion going on in /shout on the subject, but I didn't get involved.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 9:25am by Wint Lock Thread: Because reasons.
#2 Aug 19 2013 at 7:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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My thoughts on it really is this, it shouldn't matter. Should a male playing a female character be allowed to marry a male character played by another male, does it really matter. I'm all for gay rights but a video game seems like an odd place to fight for them, and I always thought marriage in video games is kinda odd. Now Divorce is where the fun comes in, who gets the chocobo when people split up.
#3 Aug 19 2013 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
It's not really about gay rights, I just don't think people should get left out.

There will probably be a neat little ceremony and outfits and it seems weird to say... if a guy/his boyfriend or a girl/her girlfriend are playing, they won't be able to access that content. If that makes sense.
#4 Aug 19 2013 at 7:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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#5 Aug 19 2013 at 7:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Really like I said it shouldn't matter whether its hetero or **** marriage in a Final Fantasy game. I'd be slightly more worried about the cross species issues. That poor Lalafell who hooks up with a Roegadyn, how are they going to explain that to their parents not to mention do you really want to see what their kids would look like.
#6 Aug 19 2013 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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PyrielDD wrote:
Really like I said it shouldn't matter whether its hetero or **** marriage in a Final Fantasy game. I'd be slightly more worried about the cross species issues. That poor Lalafell who hooks up with a Roegadyn, how are they going to explain that to their parents not to mention do you really want to see what their kids would look like.

Tiny apes or giant babies?
#7 Aug 19 2013 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
It was made legal yesterday here in New Zealand, make it legal in Eorzea too! :D
#8 Aug 19 2013 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Like in real life some ppl are going to be upset about this sensitive subject and others will be happy.
Its seriously a no win situation sadly
#9 Aug 19 2013 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't care
#10 Aug 19 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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Wait, girls play video games?

WhatWouldSocratesDo. Stick that in your "Democracy". Or should I say Republic?
#11 Aug 19 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gay people should be able to get married and be miserable like any one else :)
#12 Aug 19 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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Dude... you define troll... You should be proud of your work you do here....
#13 Aug 19 2013 at 7:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have no problem with the way they handle either scenario, but I did see people saying that if they implement same sex marriage in the game that it would warrant an M rating in some countries, and would be completely banned in others. For as much as would like to say having gay marriage in this game promotes equality, it would disallow some to ever even get their hands on it. How is that equal?

Edited, Aug 19th 2013 10:01pm by supermegazeke
#14REDACTED, Posted: Aug 19 2013 at 7:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Absolutely not. This is a game children will be playing and Im sure many parents would not want their kids getting mixed signals about what is right and wrong. Plus many countries this game is going to be in (like Indonesia the worlds largest muslim country) would likely ban or put a mature rating (the us would slap a mature raing) on the game dooming its sales in those places, hurting SE. Also in Japan gay marriage and homosexuality are a no-no, so culturely speaking it would not fly there. The only ones asking for it are a small overly vocal minority from the US and EU. A large segment of the population of the world including me view it as aberrant behavior and shouldnt be encouraged. Id seriously doubt it will ever come to mmos.
#15 Aug 19 2013 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Could Mithra's marry each other in FFXI?
#16 Aug 19 2013 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
I don't think that post really needed to get deleted because it was a good example of people who are against the whole thing.

Anyway, I see it like this.

They're adding a marriage/relationship service, whether you like it or not. There are a lot of gay players. They are customers and they pay a subscription and it seems unfair if they don't get to access that content also.

Edited, Aug 19th 2013 9:49pm by Killua125
#17 Aug 19 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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supermegazeke wrote:
I have no problem with the way they handle either scenario, but I did see people saying that if they implement same sex marriage in the game that it would warrant an M rating in some countries, and would be completely banned in others. For as much as would like to say having gay marriage in this game promotes equality, it would disallow some to never even get their hands on it. How is that equal?


If a game is outright banned due to same sex marriage in a virtual format where the closest animated /emote is blowing a kiss... those countries women have a lot more to be concerned about.
#18 Aug 19 2013 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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If it bothers them that much, then they can exercise their rights as consumers and choose not to play. Simple.
#19 Aug 19 2013 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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We've had this thread multiple times... I soooo can't wait until you get what my other "favorite" ZAM person got
#20 Aug 19 2013 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
I guess only the pro side is allowed to speak up on this. I am saddened that my thoughtful post which did not violate any rules, wasn't rude or condensending, was deleted.
#21 Aug 19 2013 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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I don't really care, it's fantasy. Anything can happen. I guess restricting the marriage thing would make people feel left out, and a fantasy world is about embracing differences...So why not?

I have a boyfriend who plays a female character, and I play a female one. These are our views.

His View: "Why bring a religion stereotype into a video game?" "I thought it was supposed to be fun, not alienating people." "Now I can't marry my cute gf."

My view: I was going to say that marrying my boyfriend in game would seem silly. If we can't tie the knot in RL. (The wedding outfits are so cute though in game!) But, i agree, it shouldn't matter if someone of the same sex gets married in game. It's a game.
#22 Aug 19 2013 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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HarukaTenoh wrote:
I don't really care, it's fantasy. Anything can happen.


I want to marry my chocobo. ...Then divorce her and marry my unicorn. My rights! Smiley: lol
#23 Aug 19 2013 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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supermegazeke wrote:
HarukaTenoh wrote:
I don't really care, it's fantasy. Anything can happen.


I want to marry my chocobo. ...Then divorce her and marry my unicorn. My rights! Smiley: lol


Nice lol. If we are going to get complex what about Polyandry and Polygyny. Heh those sociology classes are paying off today.
#24 Aug 19 2013 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
As I've said before, XI had no qualms about a Galka marrying a little girl Tarutaru. Nothing else they allowed characters to do could be any worse than that, aside from letting a BST marry his sheep.
#25 Aug 19 2013 at 8:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even if I were against it in RL, I wouldn't even care about it in a game.

Most of the female characters you see running around are guys anyway. I don't even see how it would bother anyone in a game. How would they even know?

I just don't get the human race sometimes...
#26 Aug 19 2013 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I got dibs on Shiva...it's my right.
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