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#27 Aug 19 2013 at 8:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Personally I'd like to see it implemented. It seems like a fun thing for people to do. Whatever SE decides will undoubtedly ruffle a few feathers, but in my mind, it's an all or nothing situation. Either let everyone get married or get rid of the in-game marriage entirely. Sure, it's a nice thing to have. SE could probably even weave it into the lore so that they don't even have to call it marriage. But if it's gonna become a really controversial issue, I'm not sure it's worth having.
#28 Aug 19 2013 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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We don't need the politics in the game. If they add it, they add it.
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#30 Aug 19 2013 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess only the pro side is allowed to speak up on this. I am saddened that my thoughtful post which did not violate any rules, wasn't rude or condensending, was deleted.


I was helping you out. If you ever complain about being rated down I'll nuke every post on the subject however. You were waaaaaaaaaay sub-d before I nuked it, it's restored now.
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#31 Aug 19 2013 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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#32 Aug 19 2013 at 8:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ehllfire wrote:
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I've made a couple posts about this before but I was wondering if you guys would post your thoughts.

Yoshida said that the marriage option would only be added for a straight couple, but a GM recently posted that they're open to feedback on the subject.

What do you think? Should two male or two female characters be allowed to marry on ARR? Before the beta ended there was a huge discussion going on in /shout on the subject, but I didn't get involved.

Absolutely not. This is a game children will be playing and Im sure many parents would not want their kids getting mixed signals about what is right and wrong. Plus many countries this game is going to be in (like Indonesia the worlds largest muslim country) would likely ban or put a mature rating (the us would slap a mature raing) on the game dooming its sales in those places, hurting SE. Also in Japan *** marriage and homosexuality are a no-no, so culturely speaking it would not fly there. The only ones asking for it are a small overly vocal minority from the US and EU. A large segment of the population of the world including me view it as aberrant behavior and shouldnt be encouraged. Id seriously doubt it will ever come to mmos.

That huge shouting match in beta was pre-planned by by activist LGBT groups who are screaming and kicking trying to ruin SE's vision of the game.


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I guess only the pro side is allowed to speak up on this. I am saddened that my thoughtful post which did not violate any rules, wasn't rude or condensending, was deleted.


This post deserved to be deleted or karma bombed to oblivion. You say your post wasnt rude and condescending and yet in the opening line you speak of children getting mixed signals on what is right and wrong - what an incredibly bigoted comment. Being homosexual is not a matter of right or wrong it is a matter of biology and genetics. I am not *** and I found your post offensive.

Edit: removed a potentially inflamatory comment - two wrongs dont make a right, I just got a bit riled up.

Edited, Aug 19th 2013 11:09pm by HallieXIV
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#33 Aug 19 2013 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, that's why I nuked it. Enjoy it folks, do what you will, I'm not touching this thing with a 10' pole.
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#34 Aug 19 2013 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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Also, I think tolerance is a good lesson for kids. I don't think knowing that *** people exist is going to turn them ***. Smiley: oyvey

BUT a lot of people do think like him, so it didn't really need to get deleted. But Ehllfire, I think you're taking a virtual video game marriage too seriously.
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Heh. In Japan it's officially a no-no, but unofficially.... Japan single handedly made *** **** attractive to women.
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#36 Aug 19 2013 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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Killua125 wrote:
Also, I think tolerance is a good lesson for kids. I don't think knowing that *** people exist is going to turn them ***. Smiley: oyvey

BUT a lot of people do think like him, so it didn't really need to get deleted. But Ehllfire, I think you're taking a virtual video game marriage too seriously.


Killua - I rarely find myself agreeing with you on these boards but this deserves a rate up :-)
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#38 Aug 19 2013 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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HallieXIV wrote:


Killua - I rarely find myself agreeing with you on these boards but this deserves a rate up :-)


First rule of Rate Club, we do not talk about Rate Club.....darn I broke the rule.
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#39 Aug 19 2013 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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Wow so I started reading this thread a couple glasses of whiskey too far in. Seriously though made my day.
#40 Aug 19 2013 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
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wtf seriously?
#41 Aug 19 2013 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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actually in japan its under a don't ask don;t tell. since japan isn't considered a religios nation. They have buddism, shinto and christanity. Like i said you can have a *** wedding in japan I looked into it as i was curious. Infact there is an anime that actually touch based on same *** wedding.
#42 Aug 19 2013 at 9:54 PM Rating: Default
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First rule of Rate Club, we do not talk about Rate Club.....darn I broke the rule.


And I rated you down in kind (but not because I didn't like your post...in fact I would not be content without my current post hitting AT LEAST default).

(Edit: Thanks guys. It hurts so good.) X(

Edited, Aug 19th 2013 9:43pm by fatpolomanjr
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#43 Aug 19 2013 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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If youre fine with girl on girl then youre ok with same *** marriage.
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I don't really care but I don't think SE will take this risk in the NA/EU market (or well may be they can create some viral news hype about it?)

Anyway, I doubt if they will do it.
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I don't really care but I don't think SE will take this risk in the NA/EU market (or well may be they can create some viral news hype about it?)

Anyway, I doubt if they will do it.


Sadly I think you are right. But given something like Skyrim that had it, I don't remember reading anything about a fall out or a dent in their sales. I don't think (completely my personal opinion) that something like this actually causes people to not buy the game if they are against it. It is such a minor minor part of the FFXIV experience and wouldn't be forced on you in any way. It marrying someone of the same *** in game doesn't interest you, don't do it and keep on fishing instead :)

Edited, Aug 19th 2013 9:22pm by CrazyDemo
#46 Aug 19 2013 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
I, for one, do not like the idea of a *** couple who loves each other ruining the sanctity of my fourth marriage!

(On the honest side, I'm still married to my first wife, just making the point Smiley: tongue)
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#47 Aug 19 2013 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
Also, while I find it foolish that it is even an issue, games like Mass Effect and Skyrim had homosexual marriage / encounters in a single-player game. In ARR, it would require 2 ppl to actually commit to a non-legally binding relationship that could ruin the moral fabric of 'MURICA! Huge difference Smiley: lol
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IKickYoDog wrote:
I, for one, do not like the idea of a *** couple who loves each other ruining the sanctity of my fourth marriage!

(On the honest side, I'm still married to my first wife, just making the point Smiley: tongue)


Still married to your first AND your fourth... I don't know whether to hi five you or be jealous ;) j/k
#49 Aug 19 2013 at 10:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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IKickYoDog wrote:
I, for one, do not like the idea of a *** couple who loves each other ruining the sanctity of my fourth marriage!

(On the honest side, I'm still married to my first wife, just making the point Smiley: tongue)


Still married to your first AND your fourth... I don't know whether to hi five you or be jealous ;) j/k


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#50 Aug 19 2013 at 10:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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As someone who likes to RP, I generally see marriage systems in MMOs as a very half-assed pandering to the typically mocked RP subset of the community. As well, anyone who truly wishes to RP a marriage, be it with a man, woman, midget, sheep, or whatever are absolutely free to with no coded backing whatsoever. That in mind, I feel the topical ********* can be outright avoided by not implementing marriage mechanics and simply letting people do their thing. The moment any kind of perks are added to the system like unique gear or other game features, you're basically asking for that swarm of players who feel their "thing" isn't being represented fairly.

At best, I'd say give a means to sign/engrave gear with a name and in the future have a paid name change service (RL or gil) so someone could adopt a new last name if they really, really, really want to.
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