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#1 Aug 20 2013 at 7:38 PM Rating: Default
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So it is my understanding that people who played in 1.0, but didn't pay for 3+ months, don't get early access. Not sure why people who pre-ordered it 20 minutes ago get the prize but the rest of us can't. As far as I'm concerned I preordered it too... 3 years ago... slightly earlier than those who just kinda got into it recently.... for half the price....

$80 3 years ago? t(''t)
$30 20 minutes ago "enjoy bro! welcome aboard! =D"

edit: Thanks for the replies. I'm not saying that I deserve -more- than anyone. I just want to play the game, when it "launches" early when all my friends are playing it. I already bought the game, (years ago,) I'll be subscribing for at least 3+ months overall. Just saying that I don't like how I have to spend extra money to play with my pals when I've already spent more than what they've spent on everything so far. To me it just says "enjoy watching these new guys play for 3 days unless you gives me more $$$$" And...let's not forget those of us who spent $1000 on a new machine to even play this game... =/

Edited, Aug 21st 2013 5:45am by warlorddis
#2 Aug 20 2013 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
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So it is my understanding that people who played in 1.0, but didn't pay for 3+ months, don't get early access. Not sure why people who pre-ordered it 20 minutes ago get the prize but the rest of us can't. As far as I'm concerned I preordered it too... 3 years ago... slightly earlier than those who just kinda got into it recently.... for half the price....

$80 3 years ago? t(''t)
$30 20 mintues ago "enjoy bro! welcome aboard! =D"


You get the game for free, the people who are paying $80 do not. All you lose is 3 days. You can either pay to upgrade or wait 3 days. Obviously you didn't support the game as a legacy player therefore you don't deserve the free early access. It's that simple.
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Obviously you didn't support the game as a legacy player therefore you don't deserve


And Legacy players wonder why people get annoyed with them. You never shut up with this, lol.
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And Legacy players wonder why people get annoyed with them. You never shut up with this, lol.


I'm not a Legacy player idiot. I started during Phase 3 on the PS3.
#5 Aug 20 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Default
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The game was free? I have the original CE so is my $80 (from 3 years ago) being returned to me? Giving them the $80 is somehow NOT supporting them? WOW! news to me. Pretty sure none of that makes any sense. I'm not trying to be hostile here but I can't fathom how you figured that logic. And how exactly is it that people who preorder it tonight supported the game originally?
#6 Aug 20 2013 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
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that explains a lot. You paid $30 a few days ago and you get a cookie. i'd be happy too.



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The game was free? I have the original CE so is my $80 (from 3 years ago) being returned to me? Giving them the $80 is somehow NOT supporting them? WOW! news to me. Pretty sure none of that makes any sense. I'm not trying to be hostile here but I can't fathom how you figured that logic. And how exactly is it that people who preorder it tonight supported the game originally?


Ignore him. He's clearly a nutcase.
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And people who whine and justify the whining never shutup, period. Like I said before, no one makes threads saying how Legacy is better, or how they deserve more than others, they simply reply to the intransigent. There are just 20913802948320943^8 threads like this asking for things you aren't supposed to get unless you fulfilled the requirements.

It isn't complicated in the slightest. Getting annoyed by the truth doesn't change it from being so. Calling out his phrasing is simply arguing semantics. He has the CE items from 1.0, which new players can't get, and he's getting the CE from 2.0, no extra charge. Stop pretending that the OP isn't throwing a fit because he wants to play, and isn't willing to do what is needed to do so. (Which oddly merits the feelings of anyone who didn't want to pay the 3 months but want the same perks now).

Even though you're unpopular, I've never really felt like you've said anything out of line and have even voted you up at times. Just saw it as your own feelings on things. Now you're just being dense. It peeves me when people try to twist reality.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:01pm by GDLYL
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The game was free? I have the original CE so is my $80 (from 3 years ago) being returned to me? Giving them the $80 is somehow NOT supporting them? WOW! news to me. Pretty sure none of that makes any sense. I'm not trying to be hostile here but I can't fathom how you figured that logic. And how exactly is it that people who preorder it tonight supported the game originally?


Newsflash!! The game you bought was a lemon and it died a horrific death next to the corpse of E.T. buried in the Arizona desert. FFXIV ARR is a brand new game out of the ashes of 1.0 just like a Phoenix Down. Those that supported the crap that was 1.0 with subscription payments earned a pat on the back and some perks. The rest of us have to suck it up and pay for the goodies. Maybe you failed to realize this, but the crash and burn by FFXIV 1.0 hurt the company very badly and almost killed the FF brand. I never claimed that people that paid for the game "tonight" as you put deserve any perks either. Those people which incluides myself paid extra for the game to receive said perks. If you had paid for 3 **** months, you'd have access too for FREE. Continuously paying subscriptions is how SE makes money off this type of game, not original purchase costs. That's why the #1 money maker of all time isn't FFVII like most fanboys like to believe, but FFXI.
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I was an original beta tester for 1.0 and then purchased the $80 CE of the game, played and paid up until March 2012 and I am not a legacy member on some technicality. However, I just paid the $30 for the game without complaining. I am missing other legacy benefits like having my name in the credits, but it's okay. It doesn't matter because in the end we all get to play and be happy. =^__^= Meow!
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And people who whine and justify the whining never shutup, period. Like I said before, no one makes threads saying how Legacy is better, or how they deserve more than others, they simply reply to the intransigent. There are just 20913802948320943^8 threads like this asking for things you aren't supposed to get unless you fulfilled the requirements.

It isn't complicated in the slightest. Getting annoyed by the truth doesn't change it from being so. Calling out his phrasing is simply arguing semantics. He has the CE items from 1.0, which new players can't get, and he's getting the CE from 2.0, no extra charge. Stop pretending that the OP isn't throwing a fit because he wants to play, and isn't willing to do what is needed to do so. (Which oddly merits the feelings of anyone who didn't want to pay the 3 months but want the same perks now).

Even though you're unpopular, I've never really felt like you've said anything out of line and have even voted you up at times. Just saw it as your own feelings on things. Now you're just being dense. It peeves me when people try to twist reality.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:01pm by GDLYL


It's just that I sympathize. I have a friend that paid over $150 total for XIV already and he paid for the game again to get an early access code so he could start with the rest of us. It's just kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:05pm by Killua125
#13 Aug 20 2013 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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@OP

That's a little over-dramatic. Not getting part of a bonus isn't the same thing as punishment.

Sure, you don't get the extra three days, but you DO get all of the non-physical ARR collector's edition bonuses for free. I think the bigger injustice would be someone in your position getting all the benefits a legacy player gets. How would that make sense?

And if $80 is $80, why aren't the 2.0 CE buyers getting 1.0 CE bonuses?


Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:07pm by Aasher
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Sure, you don't get the extra three days, but you DO get all of the non-physical ARR collector's edition bonuses for free. I think the bigger injustice would be someone in your position getting all the benefits a legacy player gets. How would that make sense?


/thread... well said Aasher

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It's just that I sympathize. I have a friend that paid over $150 total for XIV already and he paid for the game again to get an early access code so he could start with the rest of us. It's just kinda ridiculous in my opinion.


I see how this bothers you, but let's look at the other side. I have friends who paid for 2 versions of the 1.0 CE like your friend. These same friends spent at least 3 months of subscription charges on broken game. That's 30 X 3 = 90 by my math. Yet someone who paid NOTHING beyond the CE purchase should receive all the perks of a legacy player? Speaking of unfair, how come 2.0 players of the CE aren't able to get any of the pre-order items from 1.0? Is that fair Killua?


Edited, Aug 20th 2013 9:16pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
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Does that mean I didn't need to buy the $30 download? -_-;
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GDLYL wrote:
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And people who whine and justify the whining never shutup, period. Like I said before, no one makes threads saying how Legacy is better, or how they deserve more than others, they simply reply to the intransigent. There are just 20913802948320943^8 threads like this asking for things you aren't supposed to get unless you fulfilled the requirements.

It isn't complicated in the slightest. Getting annoyed by the truth doesn't change it from being so. Calling out his phrasing is simply arguing semantics. He has the CE items from 1.0, which new players can't get, and he's getting the CE from 2.0, no extra charge. Stop pretending that the OP isn't throwing a fit because he wants to play, and isn't willing to do what is needed to do so. (Which oddly merits the feelings of anyone who didn't want to pay the 3 months but want the same perks now).

Even though you're unpopular, I've never really felt like you've said anything out of line and have even voted you up at times. Just saw it as your own feelings on things. Now you're just being dense. It peeves me when people try to twist reality.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:01pm by GDLYL


It's just that I sympathize. I have a friend that paid over $150 total for XIV already and he paid for the game again to get an early access code so he could start with the rest of us. It's just kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:05pm by Killua125


I see. Well I get it, but it's less than 4 days till the game is out for good. It's just silly that topics like this are still popping up. I'll be glad when the game launches. The threads might actually be helpful, or complain about actual in game drama that "matters."

I apologize if I came off strong. I can't stand when people provoke others then turn around and claim the other people are bullying them. Far too many groups do that. *cough* women. It's like the want you to lose your temper, just so they can turn around and say how much of a temper you have. That's pretty much how I feel about this whole thing. They whine, people tried being nice at first, then they just whine more. Now that no one has patience for it, they turn around and say legacy people have bad attitudes. It's... whatever lol.
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Fair enough. :)
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OP there is a way to get early access. PM me and Ill let you know
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Lets look at this a different way. If you just bought the 1.0 ce you dont get early access, would have to preorder a basic copy which is $30.

$80+$30=$110

Okay now a legacy player bought the ce, and also had to pay for 3 months. Dont remember what the exact monthly was, think it was $9.99.

$80+$29.97=$109.97

Many legacy payed for more than three months, such as I did. Guess what, it evens out.
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It's just that I sympathize. I have a friend that paid over $150 total for XIV already and he paid for the game again to get an early access code so he could start with the rest of us. It's just kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:05pm by Killua125


You're right, he shouldn't have paid that to get early access. Your friend is very ridiculous indeed.
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Sure, you don't get the extra three days, but you DO get all of the non-physical ARR collector's edition bonuses for free. I think the bigger injustice would be someone in your position getting all the benefits a legacy player gets. How would that make sense?


/thread... well said Aasher


This is actually not true. Not only do you not get the 3 early access days, but you only get 14 days access instead of 30 and you do not get the in-game items(moogle hat and cait sith) that come from pre-order.

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I see how this bothers you, but let's look at the other side. I have friends who paid for 2 versions of the 1.0 CE like your friend. These same friends spent at least 3 months of subscription charges on broken game.

I see where you're coming from, but your friends paid knowing the game was broken. I really fault SE here for the way they devised this program, but they're pretty good at not handling things like this in a way that satisfies everyone.

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Many legacy payed for more than three months, such as I did. Guess what, it evens out.

EA is not the only benefit to being a legacy account...
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I pre-ordered the game years ago before it came out. Installed it on my PC, found out that my video card wasn't supported, then gave up. Got a new PC about 8 months later, tried again, found out the game was completely confusing, and not fun in the least, then quit again.

I'm not complaining that I spent $50 2+ years go. I'm just dropping another $50 and moving on with my life.

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It's just that I sympathize. I have a friend that paid over $150 total for XIV already and he paid for the game again to get an early access code so he could start with the rest of us. It's just kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 10:05pm by Killua125


You're right, he shouldn't have paid that to get early access. Your friend is very ridiculous indeed.


That's a pretty rude thing to say. He wanted to level together with his group of friends and not make them wait days for him.
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Many legacy payed for more than three months, such as I did. Guess what, it evens out.

EA is not the only benefit to being a legacy account...


Oh of course, but the OP was talking about EA, so that is what I focused on in my post.
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Some silver lining I take from being a non-legacy 1.0 player who isn't pre-ordering a new copy is that I don't have to deal with all this code madness goin' on.
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