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#1 Aug 23 2013 at 10:04 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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What do you guys think sites like IGN will rate A Realm Reborn?
#2 Aug 23 2013 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't know I don't read reviews since they don't really tell you how the game really is.
#3 Aug 23 2013 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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6/10 because it's not Halo.
#4 Aug 23 2013 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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7.5/10
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#5 Aug 23 2013 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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2/10 since apparently it is a copy of every other MMO out there. including itself.
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#6 Aug 23 2013 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm, the only thing I care about less than other people's ratings is guessing what other people's ratings will be.

This thread taught me that.
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8-8.5/10

Yes, rate down for a response to the thread. Smiley: rolleyes

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#8 Aug 23 2013 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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If it's like FFXI, the reviews will just be how much the author loves WoW followed by something around 5/10
#9 Aug 23 2013 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Who bothers with reviews. Those things are so rigged one way or another that I don't even bother anymore.
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#10Killua125, Posted: Aug 23 2013 at 10:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm gonna guess 6/10 for IGN. Not necessarily my personal opinion, I'm just predicting IGN's score.
#11 Aug 23 2013 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lol thats like saying the game is ****. Hilarious.
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#12 Aug 23 2013 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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I'd say, Q.Ω/µ™
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#13 Aug 23 2013 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Teravibe wrote:
Lol thats like saying the game is sh*t. Hilarious.


as much as i disagree what killua said might happen, IGN is kinda(read: totally) biased towards certain games.
#14 Aug 23 2013 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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Westyle wrote:
If it's like FFXI, the reviews will just be how much the author loves WoW followed by something around 5/10


Which is funny because Final Fantasy XI, during its heyday and a while after, racked up a modest 85 average on Metacritic. Why, even Playboy Magazine (yes, that Playboy) gave it a 100%! Smiley: lol

Anyway. If you'd asked me this question a couple months ago, or just a month ago even during the Phase 3 period, I would have said 'respectably'. Somewhere between a 75 and an 85 depending on the site, the reviewer, and whatnot. But with many of these very gaming sites now turning their attention to TES:O, Wildstar, and especially EverQuest Next and its blitzkrieg of a hypetrain for all the 'new' and 'fresh' things it will bring to reinvigorate the MMO genre, I'm not so confident how the general gaming media will rate ARR.

Case in point, I know Mike Fahey over at Kotaku is the one who is going to review ARR after shooting one of their other writers an e-mail, and pre-EQN I was told that "He says it's good, albeit standard MMO fare." when I asked about thoughts during Phase 3. I would have anticipated anywhere from a strong "Not Yet" to a weak/modest "Yes" in terms of if they would recommend it to play. Now, however, with the amount of "EQN is going to change the world" articles that Fahey put out, I'm not as believing that will be the case. The MMO genre in general tends to be more susceptible to comparisons between games than other game genres, and to a degree that's justified since you need to know which game you should be sinking hours, as well as potential monthly fees, in to. That said, with most MMO reviewers gobsmacked over other MMOs coming over the horizon that intend to "change everything", I don't know how well ARR is going to fare with its safer method of approaching things.

(Don't get me wrong, though. I personally am enjoying A Realm Reborn and am on board with it, full stop.)

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#15 Aug 23 2013 at 10:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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MitArgento wrote:
Teravibe wrote:
Lol thats like saying the game is sh*t. Hilarious.


as much as i disagree what killua said might happen, IGN is kinda(read: totally) biased towards certain games.


True enough. Most of the time I don't agree with any site in scores. No idea why though.

****** games that sites like IGN gave them 9/10 I wouldn't even give them a 3. And games that did get a 3 I would have given them a 9. Go figure.
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#16 Aug 23 2013 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
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Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125
#17 Aug 23 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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Do what i do, don't give a **** about reviews.
#18 Aug 23 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
What do you guys think sites like IGN will rate A Realm Reborn?


Depends on how much cash Yoshi-P set aside to bribe them all with.
#19 Aug 23 2013 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
What do you guys think sites like IGN will rate A Realm Reborn?


Depends on how much cash Yoshi-P set aside to bribe them all with.


This. As I said all big companies do it. And who ever doesn't know he isn't really involved with internet.
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#20 Aug 23 2013 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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They should set up a review thread so we dont have a million threads of "My review of blah blah blah"
#21 Aug 23 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Default
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I think the game is an 8+ easy. But reviewing a buggy laggy launch is always hard. There servers are going to be hit and that's going to effect these early reviews that will be coming out. How did 3102 effect review beta players? I was just reading on Destructoid that they have 4 people playing the game. Massively has a number dedicated to it. There main guy is super excited about the game.

My guess is that Meta critic will have it hovering around 8.5 I'd be excited to see it higher. Rating this sort of game is hard and subjective and I can see it deserving that sort of critical push. They worked hard on it. Polished MMOs seem to hover between 7.5 - 9 from critics.
#22 Aug 23 2013 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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Being conservative I'd say the sites will give it an 8.0.

I'd probably give it an 8.0 too. Especially for initial quality. Other than login issues (in the beta) the game itself has been rock solid.

Pacing of combat could be an issue, but if it works then its all subjective anyway. I like the slower pace.

In the end I haven't seen one thing that has wowed me, but everything as a whole is very polished, fun and most importantly, immersive.

#23 Aug 23 2013 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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8-8.5 and they have been promoting it a bit on IGN
#24 Aug 23 2013 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Don't care what they rate it, you won't stop me from playing.
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Release day/beta scores and reviews for MMOs are like bicycles for fish.
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#26 Aug 23 2013 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
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Killua125 wrote:
Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125


I like how you push your preferences on others just like IGN and pretend that Kotaku is some little garbage site that nobody's heard of...
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Yeah, you can never really go off review scores when it comes to MMORPG's... I'm willing to bet that the man that ends up reviewing the game, won't even get his own personal chocobo. He just might make it to level 20... Would be nice if a reviewer made it to say level 35 and then reviewed it, but even then it wouldn't be a full review. Just a review based on the world, lore, and maybe a few jobs leveled. Basically just a starters experience with a littler personal opinion sprinkled in.
#28 Aug 23 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elamille wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125


I like how you push your preferences on others just like IGN and pretend that Kotaku is some little garbage site that nobody's heard of...



Let's face it. Kotaku is not the best site IMO.
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#29 Aug 23 2013 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I would venture a 7.5.

The game is polished, but it's nothing "earth shattering" according to the game journos. The game plays well and barring any significant technical troubles, it should score a "Good" score without a problem. Unless the reviewer is a big FF fan and painting the score a bit higher because he loves chocobos and all the FF character injected into the world, I expect that average to good score.

To us, the game may be an 8.0 or higher.
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#30 Aug 23 2013 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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well with everyone talking about how "great" it is Im hoping to see 8 average
#31 Aug 23 2013 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
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Elamille wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Well, like it or not, people actually do care about IGN's reviews (I don't).

Nobody, or very few people, cares about Kotaku's "yes/no/not yet" laughable reviews.

I've seen some games get a "no" because they were too politically incorrect.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 12:27pm by Killua125


I like how you push your preferences on others just like IGN and pretend that Kotaku is some little garbage site that nobody's heard of...


People have heard of it. It's a pretty popular site. But everything they say at this point is taken with a grain of salt by its readers.
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You can tell how much he doesn't care about the IGN reviews with how fervently he defends them.
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#33 Aug 23 2013 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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They will at best give it a 6. I on the other hand rate a games on a three tier scale. Crap, Good, and Godly. Only a few games have ever reached the Godly level.

Example of a Godly game: The Last of Us.
Example of a Good Game: Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch
Example of a Crap Game: Call of Duty
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#34 Aug 23 2013 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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People have heard of it. It's a pretty popular site. But everything they say at this point is taken with a grain of salt by its readers.


Everything any review site says should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm far more interested in what players say than what reviewers say.
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#35 Aug 23 2013 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
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While I rarely visit IGN, the reviews are of better quality than Kotaku's, but that's not saying a whole lot.

When I do look at reviews (rare), I try to read into the bulk of it, "de-spin" it, and ignore the score. I know that reviews are biased if not paid off entirely, especially when it's so easy for these publishers to cut off review copies, early interviews, early information (all the stuff that gets their site hits).

I'm not really defending any gaming site, but I definitely find Kotaku's reviews most laughable, with authors like this one writing many of the reviews. http://kotaku.com/5914348/three-words-i-said-to-the-man-i-defeated-in-gears-of-war-that-ill-never-say-again
#36 Aug 23 2013 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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IGN isn't going to rate FFXIV at launch. For MMO's, they do reviews over a period of time. Now with that being said, here is how I feel they will rate FFXIV.

IGN will make comparisons to 1.0 and that will help the score, not hinder it. I suspect the both versions of FFXIV ARR will receive a rating between 7.5-8.0. The PS3 version works just fine. People that own a PS3 know the limitations of the hardware. A game rating by IGN isn't affected by those limitations.
#37 Aug 23 2013 at 11:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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You really can't review an MMO at launch because you never really get a feel for how the game progresses or how the storylines unfold. Single player games, shooters, etc... those that take hours to finish, those I would assume could be reviewed more honestly and timely. A review at an MMO launch can really only honestly talk about the UI, controls, and graphics. I think a 3 or 6 month followup review would probably have more meaning than a weekend after launch.
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#38 Aug 23 2013 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I think it is going to get an 8 or 8.5. I don't like the decimal systems as it is a sign of wishy washy.

I'm leaning towards and 8.5 because it is more meaty than and just as polished as the XIII series which averaged an 8.

I don't think a game that doesn't push envelopes can raise above 9 unless it does every normal playtype genre offering better than the rest.

Lastly, if you are not playing the game on ps3 the review has no bearing on you regardless of the score.

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IGN's score for FFXIV 1.0 was 5.5/10. If they only bump that by half a point after all the dramatic changes in ARR, then I think there's something wrong with their rating system.

The game will probably sit comfortably in the low 80s out of 100 with a side of "most improved MMO ever, but without much innovation."
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So took a minute to read that for the **** of it and my god. I don't remember the last time I have seen the word rape so much in print. With how that's written she sounds very much like a rape fetishist.
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#41 Aug 23 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
Depends on how much money SE gives them.
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8 or 8.5 in general. Reviews from beta were very positive, but it's not a ground breaking MMO in any way, so it can't really get 9s or 10s.
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#44 Aug 23 2013 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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My only hopes of a high score is to bringing in review readers as new FFXIV players.

Either way I'm going to play the game and **** well enjoy it.

Edit: Fixing grammar , probably still horrible.

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#45 Aug 23 2013 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah don't let a review sway you too much. Just look for the bullet points.
Polished?
Playable?
Accessibility?
Overview of gameplay
Overview of systems
Amount of content
Price

If it strokes the right keys for you when looking at those and sets around an 8 overall. The game is functioning as should and points up or down from there are subjective by preference for each person.

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#46 Aug 23 2013 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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I'd say a 70-75 average on metacritic.
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I'm sorry.... I just.....can't get this out of my mind!

sandpark wrote:
I think it is going to get an 8 or 8.5. I don't like the decimal systems as it is a sign of wishy washy.

I'm leaning towards and 8.5 because it is more meaty than and just as polished as the XIII series which averaged an 8......


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Release day/beta scores and reviews for MMOs are like bicycles for fish.


Came here to say this.

I would go farther and say that reviews/scores for MMOs are entirely useless at all times.
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7.5-8. It will be relatively well recieved but too many reviewers will look at what it does just like other games and its past.
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7.5-8. It will be relatively well recieved but too many reviewers will look at what it does just like other games and its past.


If they look at it's past then it should take a 9! Smiley: lol Since 1.0 was a disaster.
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#51 Aug 23 2013 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
The other problem with IGN, some reviewers review genres they don't even like. "Hey Mr. Sports Games, can you review this MMO and sink in minimum 70 hours?"...."?$!*".
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