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#52Azurymber, Posted: Aug 23 2013 at 7:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wouldn't there have to be some gain/loss in order for it to be operant? Like you hit enter and get a fish worth more than 1 gil?
#53 Aug 23 2013 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
This is turning in to more of a Reddit type conversation. I'm sure there is an /r/psychology if you guys want to continue.
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#54 Aug 23 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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wait wait wait...companies employ marketers who use psychology to sell their products???!

my mind has never been so blown.


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#55 Aug 23 2013 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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Azurymber wrote:
PyrielDD wrote:
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Think we can mix in a little Pavlov discussion while we're at it here? I love me some classical conditioning.


Sure, lets do that.
With 2.0 fishing you just sit there hitting enter (or hitting a button) every time you hear a sound or see a motion
Do you think after doing it 300-500 times a day for a week, you would feel an urge to do it if the sound suddenly came on?


Fishing is operant conditioning not classical conditioning.


wouldn't there have to be some gain/loss in order for it to be operant? Like you hit enter and get a fish worth more than 1 gil?
I thought there was no real benefit to fishing, you just do it because you enjoy hitting a button.
Or does that enjoyment of wasting time qualify as operant?


It involves a reinforcing behaviour catching the fish by pressing or a punishment losing the fish by not pressing, therefore it is operant conditioning. You may need to brush up on your Psychology. It is not the same as Classical Conditioning.
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PyrielDD wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
PyrielDD wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
Satisiun wrote:
Think we can mix in a little Pavlov discussion while we're at it here? I love me some classical conditioning.


Sure, lets do that.
With 2.0 fishing you just sit there hitting enter (or hitting a button) every time you hear a sound or see a motion
Do you think after doing it 300-500 times a day for a week, you would feel an urge to do it if the sound suddenly came on?


Fishing is operant conditioning not classical conditioning.


wouldn't there have to be some gain/loss in order for it to be operant? Like you hit enter and get a fish worth more than 1 gil?
I thought there was no real benefit to fishing, you just do it because you enjoy hitting a button.
Or does that enjoyment of wasting time qualify as operant?


It involves a reinforcing behaviour catching the fish by pressing or a punishment losing the fish by not pressing, therefore it is operant conditioning. You may need to brush up on your Psychology. It is not the same as Classical Conditioning.


Yeah I do lol.
thanks for the clarification :p
#57 Aug 23 2013 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I didn't preorder the game until I had already played it, and I was fully raving about it long before I put any money towards it whatsoever. To me, the OP is just some boob trying to justify why everybody but him likes this game. Personally, I like the game more than sitting around and staring at the ceiling, which in fact, is the reason I like most games. They are giant wastes of time, time that for me would otherwise be spent doing nothing in particular besides watching tv or whacking it.
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#58 Aug 23 2013 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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Hey at least we aren't playing Candy Crush.

Ok time to make self sleep now.
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#59 Aug 23 2013 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The entire OP was the guy wanted to re-read himself after typing.

It was like literary *************
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#60 Aug 23 2013 at 8:28 PM Rating: Good
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Azurymber wrote:
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Azurymber wrote:

I'm watching people get hyped up just like at 1.0 and I know exactly what will happen 3 months from now.
Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 8:56pm by Azurymber


So did you use rabbit or bird entrails for that augury?



logic and years of experience in marketing.

And the fact that problems I brought up years ago are still problems
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=319&mid=128354293059648952&h=50&p=1
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=319&mid=1283725939158861520#33
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=319&mid=1325839110236127027&h=50&p=1
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=319&mid=128526957471285740#17


Depends on perception, for instance one of your posts says the original quests in FFXIV (which I never played) had uninteresting storylines--whereas i've personally enjoyed the storylines in ARR's beta. Actually the majority of problems you listed I didn't encounter in my beta experience, for instance competing for mobs was virtually non-existant. There are a ridiculous amount per zone and even if someone claims first you still get some exp from the kill.
#61 Aug 23 2013 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I like the game more than sitting around and staring at the ceiling, which in fact, is the reason I like most games.

This speaks volumes to me. In fact, the volume is so loud that I think I'm going blind.

supermegazeke wrote:
They are giant wastes of time, time that for me would otherwise be spent doing nothing in particular besides watching tv or whacking it.

Hmm. Perhaps I've stumbled upon the true reason I'm going blind Smiley: cool

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#62 Aug 23 2013 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Im going to solve the debate.

Sometimes people like what they like because they like it.
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#63 Aug 23 2013 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Ehllfire wrote:
Im going to solve the debate.

Sometimes people like what they like because they like it.

I finally rated you up! I was looking for a reason, and you finally gave it to me.
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Teneleven wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Im going to solve the debate.

Sometimes people like what they like because they like it.

I finally rated you up! I was looking for a reason, and you finally gave it to me.

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Teneleven wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Im going to solve the debate.

Sometimes people like what they like because they like it.

I finally rated you up! I was looking for a reason, and you finally gave it to me.

Is this where we dissect how you were manipulated into liking his post?
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We need a term for those who are "manipulated into liking" Square games.

I vote for Squeebot.

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#67 Aug 24 2013 at 12:38 AM Rating: Good
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Other than the Login Issues last week and most likely this week the game seemed pretty solid. It may not be exactly what I was dreaming of in an MMO but it does combine aspects of several games that I enjoyed.

Also, I don't think that the 20-50,000 people that experienced 3012 in Beta and the upcoming #$^%storm of login terror about to ensue will say a thing about how the game will be in 4 months. As much as i think it is unacceptable to have login restrictions at launch it is a pretty weak point to base the failure of the game on.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 2:39am by DamienSScott
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#68 Aug 24 2013 at 12:43 AM Rating: Good
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At the same time, though, Trion executed a flawless launch of Rift. I don't remember ANY problems at all, and their customer service is amazing. Sure XIV shouldn't be dinged for its launch issues, but it does say a lot when one company is struggling, as Square is, but another anticipated the issues and compensated for them.
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At the same time, though, Trion executed a flawless launch of Rift. I don't remember ANY problems at all, and their customer service is amazing. Sure XIV shouldn't be dinged for its launch issues, but it does say a lot when one company is struggling, as Square is, but another anticipated the issues and compensated for them.

There were problems with rift, they locked out servers, then opened new ones instead of letting people play with friends
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#70 Aug 24 2013 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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actually i only pre-ordered after the phase 4 test, which i really liked
#71 Aug 24 2013 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
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Isn't this the wrong place for you to be posting. It seems to me like you are trying to show us how intelligent you are, and I am sure you are very intelligent, but I would rather see how cool of a player you are and how helpful you can be to others in your FFXIV community. If I wanted a lesson in psychology, I would go back to college and pay for it. Not read opinions on the internet. We all have our reasons for getting into FFXIV, I for one just want to meet cool people in what seems to be a great community in a game that has a strong following, which works for me.

It's OK to vent about something, but honestly, your post is misleading and disruptive. Why don't you instead try being a boon for this wonderful community and using your intelligence in ways that are helpful and appreciated.
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#72 Aug 24 2013 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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Double posted, apologies. Edited.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 3:15am by Nynebreaker
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Psychology 101: Freud had a fixation on penises and his mom
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