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#1 Aug 23 2013 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/64478-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-VIII-Q-A-Summary-%2808-23-2013%29?p=1031492#post1031492

I know we had a thread on it, but here's the official post in case you were interested.
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#2 Aug 23 2013 at 7:11 PM Rating: Default
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Q: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?
A: From a system perspective it may be possible; however, we've currently disabled all tell-related systems within dungeons. The reason being that you will be randomly grouped up with a vast number of people when using the Duty Finder, and because of this, there may be players who verbally abuse and harass others, so we are considering this carefully.


It's always a good idea to treat your paying customers like children. What the **** is he talking about?
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Killua125 wrote:
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Q: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?
A: From a system perspective it may be possible; however, we've currently disabled all tell-related systems within dungeons. The reason being that you will be randomly grouped up with a vast number of people when using the Duty Finder, and because of this, there may be players who verbally abuse and harass others, so we are considering this carefully.


It's always a good idea to treat your paying customers like children. What the **** is he talking about?


He's talking about people flaming others for poor performance/essentially anything. Maybe take a step back and think about what that means for the community.
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Killua125 wrote:
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Q: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?
A: From a system perspective it may be possible; however, we've currently disabled all tell-related systems within dungeons. The reason being that you will be randomly grouped up with a vast number of people when using the Duty Finder, and because of this, there may be players who verbally abuse and harass others, so we are considering this carefully.


It's always a good idea to treat your paying customers like children. What the **** is he talking about?


Yeah, I can't imagine there would be unpleasant people in this game. Same with the forums. Can't think of one example. Can you?
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#5 Aug 23 2013 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
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Are you seriously defending that?

Some people are mean so let's stop everyone from chatting? Holy crap, the fanboying is strong here.
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It's a very "japanese" decision. It's weird, but then again, consider how much time you actually have to send tells while running a dungeon. This isn't XI, you can't chat while auto-attacking a boss and making 5 sandwiches.
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Killua125 wrote:
Are you seriously defending that?

Some people are mean so let's stop everyone from chatting? Holy crap, the fanboying is strong here.


I agree with Yoshi because there is no need to send /tells when you can say it right in party chat. If you need to send /tells and feel you cannot communicate in party chat, there's a reason why. It's usually this reason that leads to harassment. It's less likely to attack someone in party chat, that's all there is to it.
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Are you seriously defending that?

Some people are mean so let's stop everyone from chatting? Holy crap, the fanboying is strong here.


I agree with Yoshi because there is no need to send /tells when you can say it right in party chat. If you need to send /tells and feel you cannot communicate in party chat, there's a reason why. It's usually this reason that leads to harassment. It's less likely to attack someone in party chat, that's all there is to it.


How about sending /tells to people who aren't in your party?
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As they said, be nice and they'll consider it. Think of it as unlocking new content with kindness.
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If you have time to send tells then you aren't doing your job in the dungeon. As far as chatting, LS chat is completely open, if you really need to talk to someone, you can still talk to your LS.

I'm sure they'll open it up eventually, this shouldn't be a game breaker for anyone (except you I hope? Please?)
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Killua125 wrote:
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Killua125 wrote:
Are you seriously defending that?

Some people are mean so let's stop everyone from chatting? Holy crap, the fanboying is strong here.


I agree with Yoshi because there is no need to send /tells when you can say it right in party chat. If you need to send /tells and feel you cannot communicate in party chat, there's a reason why. It's usually this reason that leads to harassment. It's less likely to attack someone in party chat, that's all there is to it.


How about sending /tells to people who aren't in your party?


Just admit that you're annoyed by the authoritarian principle of the restriction, and not the actual mechanics of it, and people might give you the time of day on this one.

edit: okay okay, you sort of already did admit that earlier. what can i say, i'm just killing time here. seriously though, it's really not a big deal.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 10:01pm by Llester
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Wint wrote:
If you have time to send tells then you aren't doing your job in the dungeon. As far as chatting, LS chat is completely open, if you really need to talk to someone, you can still talk to your LS.

I'm sure they'll open it up eventually, this shouldn't be a game breaker for anyone (except you I hope? Please?)


You do know a lot more of this game is instanced than just dungeons right...
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Killua125 wrote:
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If you have time to send tells then you aren't doing your job in the dungeon. As far as chatting, LS chat is completely open, if you really need to talk to someone, you can still talk to your LS.

I'm sure they'll open it up eventually, this shouldn't be a game breaker for anyone (except you I hope? Please?)


You do know a lot more of this game is instanced than just dungeons right...


Yes, but I know that dungeons are the only instance I would most likely want to send someone a tell (And as a healer, I usually don't have the time). During CS's and instanced missions, I'm happy Tells are blocked, I don't need that distracting me.
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Killua125 wrote:
Wint wrote:
If you have time to send tells then you aren't doing your job in the dungeon. As far as chatting, LS chat is completely open, if you really need to talk to someone, you can still talk to your LS.

I'm sure they'll open it up eventually, this shouldn't be a game breaker for anyone (except you I hope? Please?)


You do know a lot more of this game is instanced than just dungeons right...


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A: From a system perspective it may be possible; however, we've currently disabled all tell-related systems within dungeons.



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They're blocked in all other instances too so I don't know what you're "booming" for.
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They're blocked in all other instances too so I don't know what you're "booming" for.



to irritate you.

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They're blocked in all other instances too so I don't know what you're "booming" for.


You've tested that? Either way stop crapping on my fun or I'll mute you and leave you to stew until Launch.
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Yes, I tested it. I dunno how I'm crapping on anyone's fun. It's not like we have anything better to talk about.

I was OK with it being a temporary technical hurdle - what's annoying me is this BS reason that it's "for our own protection", lol.
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Yes, I tested it. I dunno how I'm crapping on anyone's fun. It's not like we have anything better to talk about.


Smiley: laugh

Ok, boredom I can understand. Seriously people, you should come check out IRC, we have a guy making a pretty cool IRC bot in addition to my own (she's named Minfilia) that tells us server status, does XIVDB lookups, etc.
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Oh, so you're annoyed by the idea that the "for our own protection" thing might be a ruse to disguise the fact that they somehow can't make it happen technically?

That i'd understand. But I'm not sure it's true. To me it seems like a very culturally japanese kind of thing to do, and while I certainly understand wanting to rebel against authority, this doesn't seem like the best battle, because really, it doesn't matter.
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there really isn't a need to send anyone tells during a dungeon run anyway. Your supposed to be focused on your dungeon, and it would be a little disrespectful to the other people in the party who are trying their best to complete it, when your not paying attention talking to your buddy about whatever and performing poorly.

I think even in ffxi or the instances in 1.0 the most ive ever said to someone was "i'll let you know later i'm in [insert activity here] right now".
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Wint wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
Wint wrote:
If you have time to send tells then you aren't doing your job in the dungeon. As far as chatting, LS chat is completely open, if you really need to talk to someone, you can still talk to your LS.

I'm sure they'll open it up eventually, this shouldn't be a game breaker for anyone (except you I hope? Please?)


You do know a lot more of this game is instanced than just dungeons right...


Yes, but I know that dungeons are the only instance I would most likely want to send someone a tell (And as a healer, I usually don't have the time). During CS's and instanced missions, I'm happy Tells are blocked, I don't need that distracting me.

Anyone whose played SWTOR's flashpoints would appreciate not seeing chatter during cs's. I hated hearing "just skip through it you ******* noob we've all seen it!" even though I had not. Happened EVERY flashpoint.
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A simple solution (from the player's side) to prevent harassment would be to just right click the name in chat and block tells from that person. Given that other games have allowed you to right-click a name in chat and ignore said person, I wouldn't think it would be too much of a programming leap to be able to just block tells. That way you can still communicate in party chat and the party can serve to police harassment in chat.

I've never played an MMO on a console, but I'd think there could be some method to do the same instead of right clicking.

Not being allowed to send tells inside a dungeon just seems restrictive and annoying to me. While most of the time you may be too busy to chat with a friend, there's always going to be down times when someone is afk or 1/2 the group died or whatever.
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