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#1 Aug 24 2013 at 8:56 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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Title says it. ...Thoughts? Feels a bit like a 1995 computer game too..
#2 Aug 24 2013 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Are you using an HDMI cable?
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#3 Aug 24 2013 at 9:01 AM Rating: Default
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yep. 1080p tv, hdmi cable. before I hopped on I was playing ni no kuni, and it looked just fine. soo..
edit: I also find it kind of odd the animations of the enemies and other PCs. It's like stop animation...

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 11:03am by odihsa4
#4 Aug 24 2013 at 9:04 AM Rating: Default
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When I played the PS3 during the 3rd beta phase, it looked like everything was animated by stop motion.
#5 Aug 24 2013 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, your exaggerating just a bit for dramatic effect. Was just playing on PS3 version and it looks fine not as hot as in a high end PC but that's why your going to rush out and get the PS4 when released, chasing the dream of graphical supremacy.
#6 Aug 24 2013 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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I've not played since P4 but on my ps3 it looks just fine... HDMIed in and all... It could be because your tv is 1080p and the ps3 only runs at 720p. Ps4 will be 1080...
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#7 Aug 24 2013 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Looks fine for me...
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What a dumb thing to say.
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#9Killua125, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 9:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) More like 2001-ish, but yeah.
#10 Aug 24 2013 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
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I know it seems like you know. A bad thing I just.. Trust me I don't want to exaggerate. I had high hopes. Technically speaking I still do. I played FFXI from 03 to 08, then again and again like the next person. Honestly my hopes sunk when I started playing this.. There may be some kind of problem I'm unaware of. The stop motion thing is a little odd. I mean. It's not solely the graphics I'm concerned with. I enjoy old games just fine, so long as the gameplay is there but I feel soured on this too.. i guess i was expecting a little more.. i know it's release. it's just, there is more detail and the art is okay.. I just for one dont understand the gloomyness (started in gridania) , and well. if everything moves in stop motion permanently for one it seems like dealbreaker for me. Not so much a well graphical thing. it's just nearly a mechanical issue. like, I've got no vested interest in any other game... so im just sunk on this. its just my opinion.. my opinion is just that when i started playing it felt awful... so er' yeah.. nothing i can do about that.
#11odihsa4, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yeah perhaps 2001 then.
#12 Aug 24 2013 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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Tried out the PS3 in beta. It didn't look too bad. Compared to PC: the colors were a little less vibrant, NPC draw distance was pretty short, NPCs in high activity are set to simple animations
#13 Aug 24 2013 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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My 1 year old laptop i paid 500 bucks for plays it maxed minus high grade shadows and my 600 dollar desktop plays it full out at a soild 50-60 dont need a super pc to run this game and it looks better then ps3
#14 Aug 24 2013 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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The PS3 version is to FFXIV as the PS2 version is to FFXI. The inferior system to play it on, unfortunately.

It should look much better on the PS4. I'm holding out for that version and sticking with PC for now.
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#15 Aug 24 2013 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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odihsa4 wrote:
yeah perhaps 2001 then.


The game looks like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/General-Runescape-HUD.PNG
#16 Aug 24 2013 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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odihsa4 wrote:
yeah perhaps 2001 then.


The game looks like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/General-Runescape-HUD.PNG


I see I wasn't the only one who Googled "video games in 2001" and scoped out the Wikipedia article on that very topic. Smiley: lol
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#17Killua125, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 10:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Runescape is a browser game.
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Might be best to wait for a different game if it bothers you that much. Maybe the new Elder Scrolls or something. Ryse and The Witcher 3 both look really nice.
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#19 Aug 24 2013 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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I was planning on getting the PS3 version, as I already had 1.0 on PC, but after a few hours of it in Beta, I decided against it. It just doesn't compare to the experience on my PC. So I just HDMI out to my TV with a 360 gamepad for the couch experience. I might check out the PS4 version when it comes along though.

Still, it's nice to see it up and running on a console now.
#20 Aug 24 2013 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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My pc cant handle this game so it im fine with it. haha. Its not that horrible. I don't get why everyone says its bad.
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#21 Aug 24 2013 at 11:28 AM Rating: Default
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why are ppl acting like this game looks horrible on PS3? some even says it looks like a PS2 game.. it doesntt look that bad... it looks just as good if not better than final fantasy 13 on PS3.. and that game doesnt look horrible (or like a ps2, or 1995 pc game) at all
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I am on ps3 and the lag is quite bad during FATE. Is this ps3 only issue?
#23 Aug 24 2013 at 11:43 AM Rating: Default
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pc69 wrote:
I am on ps3 and the lag is quite bad during FATE. Is this ps3 only issue?



lag is always bad in anything when a million things ae on screen (one more reason to prefer exp party and camping lvling style then gining up on fates lol
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pc69 wrote:
I am on ps3 and the lag is quite bad during FATE. Is this ps3 only issue?


Yeah, zero lag during FATEs on PC.
#25 Aug 24 2013 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
So, you're saying it looks like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/THPS2_iOS.png

You are idiots.
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#26 Aug 24 2013 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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They added jumping to this game Pawkeshup, but they haven't got around to adding griding or flips to it.

so it obviously doesn't measure up to some 2001 games.
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#27 Aug 24 2013 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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They added jumping to this game Pawkeshup, but they haven't got around to adding griding or flips to it.

so it obviously doesn't measure up to some 2001 games.
But...

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**** you have a point. So, yea, this game sucks balls because I can't railgrind my chocobo. I mean, where are the ollies?
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
So, you're saying it looks like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/THPS2_iOS.png

You are idiots.


Imios wrote:
They added jumping to this game Pawkeshup, but they haven't got around to adding griding or flips to it.

so it obviously doesn't measure up to some 2001 games.


That backside 180 heelflip off the 8 stair gap though? I got those IRL Smiley: wink
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#29 Aug 24 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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The PS3 version is to FFXIV as the PS2 version is to FFXI. The inferior system to play it on, unfortunately.

It should look much better on the PS4. I'm holding out for that version and sticking with PC for now.


Yeah I'm waiting for PS4 while playing on PC as well.

My PC scored between 8-10k on the benchmark but the PS4 has better specs than my PC all around. So it should play even smoother and at 1080p.

#30Killua125, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 1:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If we're not exaggerating, the PS3 version is about on par with Final Fantasy XII.
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If we're not exaggerating, the PS3 version is about on par with Final Fantasy XII.
So it was 1995, then 2001, now it's 20056. Man, those graphic updates are coming in fast.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 3:19pm by lolgaxe
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#32 Aug 24 2013 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
So FFXII was released in 2001?

Nope, 2006

And can someone post a SS when the game comes back up? Here's a FFXII for comparison: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Final_Fantasy_XII_JAP_FF12.jpg

And honestly, from what I recall, FFXIV is still better.

If you were expecting bleeding edge graphics, realize that, in a single player game, the company can reasonably expect X number of characters onscreen at any time, where as an MMO has a larger variance, and all that horrid 1.0 "visual lag"? Yea, caused by being too high on the graphics.


Edited, Aug 24th 2013 3:21pm by Pawkeshup
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Title says it. ...Thoughts? Feels a bit like a 1995 computer game too..

Try to keep in mind that during the opening stages of the game while hype is in full swing and everyone is a newbie, areas are going to be congested. I personally haven't seen PS3 version, but I let a friend who played PS3 version during beta log in on my PC account and he said he was surprised that it wasn't all that much worse. My gaming rig is a beast so maybe he was expecting more, but you also have to remember that the quality of the graphics were scaled back in favor of quantity.

It doesn't look as good as it could, but it also doesn't take 30 seconds to render the characters in a densely populated area.
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#34 Aug 24 2013 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
A game on a console from 2006 doesn't look as good as it's 2013 powerhouse computer counterpart? I'm beyond shocked.
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You mean it'll work on my PS1? Ima go fire it up...

#36 Aug 24 2013 at 5:28 PM Rating: Good
I play on the PS3, ordinarily it looks fine. When. The scene is noticeably loaded in some fashion or another the animations do tend to appear to skip as I'm guessing the client is passing every other frame to keep the overall framer ate reasonable. This is expected as a console limitation. The max resolution the game will pull is 720p on the PS3. All things considered it isn't terrible and is the price I pay for wanting to lay on the couch and play, and I accept that. The PS4 client will of course be better and handle frames with ease, but for now it is good.
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#37 Aug 24 2013 at 5:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Get a PC capable of running the game, or cope with the graphics reduction on a $200 8 year-old machine.

I'm sure you can hold out until the PS4 version if you plan on getting one. That will almost definitely have near-max graphics. I'm fortunate enough to be able to play the game on max on my PC, and the graphics are among the best I've seen in an MMO.

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#38 Aug 24 2013 at 6:52 PM Rating: Default
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TinyKing wrote:
odihsa4 wrote:
yeah perhaps 2001 then.


The game looks like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/General-Runescape-HUD.PNG

yes. looks horrible. the UI, the HUD. all of it.
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Title says it. ...Thoughts? Feels a bit like a 1995 computer game too..

Try to keep in mind that during the opening stages of the game while hype is in full swing and everyone is a newbie, areas are going to be congested. I personally haven't seen PS3 version, but I let a friend who played PS3 version during beta log in on my PC account and he said he was surprised that it wasn't all that much worse. My gaming rig is a beast so maybe he was expecting more, but you also have to remember that the quality of the graphics were scaled back in favor of quantity.

It doesn't look as good as it could, but it also doesn't take 30 seconds to render the characters in a densely populated area.

I appreciate your kind post. Thank you. :)
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My original complaint said Looks & Feels like a 1995 computer game. Just to stop the 1995 and this and that and trollness of this thread. I think it feels like an old game yes with the current HUD. the layout. The ps3 controller scheme. it doesn't feel very modern at all. that's my opinion. for a game that is supposed to take a step back from FFXI and be "quick and fun" or whatever, they made selecting everything in the character interface and menus very cumbersome did they not? a big grey block with a bunch of letters on it? a character viewing screen , and inventory. I know this is a matter of preference. The reason for this title is people will discuss what I figured needed to be discussed. Obviously it is an exaggeration on graphics alone. yes, it's been said over and over. "it is launch" and such. but I still would have expected something a little bit cleaner. I'm coming from the perspective of FFXI mind you. playability wise, I feel FFXI is a much more accessible game rather. I started in gridania and I've seen some posts where people say the wooded areas look worse on ps3, than say the desert area, I've considered maybe making an Ul'Dah character for that reason to test that out. I think I am speaking about the HUD quite a bit here. the idea of holding down the triggers every second when you fight, yes, the weird skipped frame animations. the thin lines representing your hp, the whole entire screen covered in HUD. I know perhaps (and I have not tried to take them down) but perhaps you can take some of these windows down. I am about to log in again. I'm giving it probably a good two months. remember I'm coming from FFXI here. It'd be the last MMO I'd want to fail. I'd like to give a shoutout to Killua125 for being cool and having open eyes, and to FilthMcNasty for being the most constructive poster so far. I think if we want to like.. Lift the FF brand up we should have high expecations and not settle. Even if it is a ps3 release right?
#41 Aug 24 2013 at 7:28 PM Rating: Default
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A game on a console from 2006 doesn't look as good as it's 2013 powerhouse computer counterpart? I'm beyond shocked.

it doesn't even look playable at times. and that is aside from graphics alone. the experience is less than thrilling so yes. I am shocked.


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accidental double post.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 9:29pm by odihsa4
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You can change the controller settings from "Hold" to "Toggle" or "Mixed" so you don't always have to hold the triggers. I'm not certain exactly how it works on PS3, but I think you should be able to do some UI customizing, resizing of windows, etc.
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You can change the controller settings from "Hold" to "Toggle" or "Mixed" so you don't always have to hold the triggers. I'm not certain exactly how it works on PS3, but I think you should be able to do some UI customizing, resizing of windows, etc.

ah I will have to tweak and test man. the default settings are just bunk is all I can say if this aspect is fixable to a good degree.
#45 Aug 24 2013 at 10:10 PM Rating: Excellent
OK, so, you think, that this game, is worse, than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPOuR1CTJss

Yea, that's an actual PC title from 1995. Let's move on, shall we?

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My original complaint said Looks & Feels like a 1995 computer game. Just to stop the 1995 and this and that and trollness of this thread. I think it feels like an old game yes with the current HUD. the layout. The ps3 controller scheme. it doesn't feel very modern at all. that's my opinion. for a game that is supposed to take a step back from FFXI and be "quick and fun" or whatever, they made selecting everything in the character interface and menus very cumbersome did they not?


So, you dislike the HUD (which is pretty much fully customizable in position and size), the layout (see previous), and the controller scheme, and yet, you think FFXI had SIMPLER controls? I... Just, I.... I mean come on... without macros you're constant in the menus and... you know what, look, let's move on..........

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a big grey block with a bunch of letters on it? a character viewing screen , and inventory. I know this is a matter of preference. The reason for this title is people will discuss what I figured needed to be discussed. Obviously it is an exaggeration on graphics alone. yes, it's been said over and over. "it is launch" and such. but I still would have expected something a little bit cleaner. I'm coming from the perspective of FFXI mind you. playability wise, I feel FFXI is a much more accessible game rather. I started in gridania and I've seen some posts where people say the wooded areas look worse on ps3, than say the desert area, I've considered maybe making an Ul'Dah character for that reason to test that out. I think I am speaking about the HUD quite a bit here.


So, you think FFXI is more accessible. You mean, the game that doesn't tell you how to play is more accessible than one with help menus and tool tips... And, that the graphics...are.. better... than... OK um, I.... Oh **** it move on...

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the idea of holding down the triggers every second when you fight, yes, the weird skipped frame animations. the thin lines representing your hp, the whole entire screen covered in HUD. I know perhaps (and I have not tried to take them down) but perhaps you can take some of these windows down. I am about to log in again. I'm giving it probably a good two months. remember I'm coming from FFXI here. It'd be the last MMO I'd want to fail. I'd like to give a shoutout to Killua125 for being cool and having open eyes


OK ENOUGH ENOUGH I CAN'T!

You're praising KILLUA for having OPEN EYES!?!? The guy that literally trashes EVERYTHING about this game and REFUSES to listen to REASON?!?! You're complaining about the HP bar being thin when there is a nice large NUMERICAL display? I.... Look, quit. Now. Just, quit. Just go back to FFXI, quit here, support FFXI. Expectations are one thing but your entire perspective is out of whack here.

Did you even PLAY games in 1995? Did you know that those games had little to NO UI customization? That you were lucky if you could tell wtf was going on without a manual? Like, really... this... I mean.. Just... SHTAAAAP.
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