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#1 Aug 24 2013 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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I love this game so much, easily my favourite MMO ever made.... when it works....

I know this is temporary and before launch date too, and square will fix it.....

But for the last 3 hours I haven't been able to use the duty finder at all, no dungeons, behests, not even instances in quests......

Not only that but for the last 3 hours I haven't been able to teleport, zone, I am unable to attack ANYTHING - not a single random monster.....

The only thing I have been able to do for the last 3 hours..... is walk around western la noscea and enjoy the scenery......

Sigh.....

When is this game getting fixed?
#2 Aug 24 2013 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Gildhests worked. But I cant start Ifrit because of this
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#3 Aug 24 2013 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
Oh

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IT JUST OPENED TODAY!

Do you think programmers are ******* wizards? That they just move a mouse around, punch four keys and blam-o - FIXED?!?

Here's an idea: GOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE
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#4 Aug 24 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
These complications normally come up on launch day. I know it's not the answer you or anyone else wants to hear, but try to be patient. It will be fixed over the coming days.
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#5 Aug 24 2013 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Oh

mah

fudging

god....


IT JUST OPENED TODAY!

Do you think programmers are @#%^ing wizards? That they just move a mouse around, punch four keys and blam-o - FIXED?!?

Here's an idea: GOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE


I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?
#6 Aug 24 2013 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
Here, go here, and stare at it!

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#7 Aug 24 2013 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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He did the same thing to me... I have no idea what his issue is...

Instances are broken atm and they're working on a fix. When the fix is ready they'll be bringing the server down for maintenance. They didn't give an ETA yet.
#8 Aug 24 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Default
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Notice how the jp servers have been up whole launch?
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#9 Aug 24 2013 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
SimonLeonhart wrote:
I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?

Oh, I dunno

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377357110144273232

Maybe

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377357096144089223

there

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377370836156285402

are

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377359101188733333

just

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377358665180541930

a few

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=137735697112906106

threads

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1377361884256408290

already.
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The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality
#10 Aug 24 2013 at 2:36 PM Rating: Default
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See thats better, don't you feel better about yourself as a human being now? Your Welcome.
#11 Aug 24 2013 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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SimonLeonhart wrote:



I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?


They already told us they're implementing a fix, they want it fixed EVEN MORE than you do.
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#12 Aug 24 2013 at 2:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah I'm on Masamune it has been pretty solid, I took a nap for a 3 hours so maybe during that time it sucked but no issues yet minus overcrowding.
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Notice how the jp servers have been up whole launch?


It's not a conspiracy, they're doing something new having NA/EU servers like this, and clearly there are some unforseen complications. Its just how life is.
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SimonLeonhart wrote:



I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?


They already told us they're implementing a fix, they want it fixed EVEN MORE than you do.

Then they would have fixed it before launch since this is the same bug from p4

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 4:41pm by Ehllfire
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#15 Aug 24 2013 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
I'm sorry, I had to lol a little inside. My apologies.

To the OP, a good way to keep on top of any newly released info is by watching the Twitter feed located here. That's what I'm doing at work as I continue to hope that whatever maintenance is complete by the time I get home so I can play :P
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#16 Aug 24 2013 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ehllfire wrote:
Llester wrote:
SimonLeonhart wrote:



I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?


They already told us they're implementing a fix, they want it fixed EVEN MORE than you do.

Then they would have fixed it before launch since this is the same bug from p4

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 4:41pm by Ehllfire


One cause of a bug can be fixed, but the bug can still pop up again due to another set of circumstances. It happens all the time. Why would anyone think that they were purposely allowing bugs to go unfixed? That's absurd. I do sympathize a little, because they clearly did not give this enough of a stress test before EA, but I wasn't really surprised and in fact predicted that there would be more hiccups in EA.
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Llester wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Llester wrote:
SimonLeonhart wrote:



I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?


They already told us they're implementing a fix, they want it fixed EVEN MORE than you do.

Then they would have fixed it before launch since this is the same bug from p4

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 4:41pm by Ehllfire


One cause of a bug can be fixed, but the bug can still pop up again due to another set of circumstances. It happens all the time. Why would anyone think that they were purposely allowing bugs to go unfixed? That's absurd. I do sympathize a little, because they clearly did not give this enough of a stress test before EA, but I wasn't really surprised and in fact predicted that there would be more hiccups in EA.

So what your saying is the game wasn't ready for launch
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And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?
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#19 Aug 24 2013 at 2:59 PM Rating: Default
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And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that
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#20 Aug 24 2013 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Ehllfire wrote:
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And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.
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#21Ehllfire, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 3:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Only the delusional claim this is still beta.
#22 Aug 24 2013 at 3:22 PM Rating: Default
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lol
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#24 Aug 24 2013 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Ehllfire wrote:
Llester wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Llester wrote:
SimonLeonhart wrote:



I'm asking for any updates on when this is getting fixed and if anyone has any information, why is that too much to ask?
Why are you being rude and being a douchebag?


They already told us they're implementing a fix, they want it fixed EVEN MORE than you do.

Then they would have fixed it before launch since this is the same bug from p4

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 4:41pm by Ehllfire


One cause of a bug can be fixed, but the bug can still pop up again due to another set of circumstances. It happens all the time. Why would anyone think that they were purposely allowing bugs to go unfixed? That's absurd. I do sympathize a little, because they clearly did not give this enough of a stress test before EA, but I wasn't really surprised and in fact predicted that there would be more hiccups in EA.

So what your saying is the game wasn't ready for launch


So what you're saying is, you have no conception whatsoever of game development/testing/bug-fixing. Ok, got it.


protip: MMOs are almost never "ready for launch" when they launch. Even if the launch is flawless, as in the case of, say, Rift. They still didn't get everything in that they wanted for launch. It's essentially impossible to develop a game like this, on a schedule, and not have to cut something. It's also very improbably to release a game like this and not have any bugs. But yes, I agree, the game launched prematurely. I expected that it would. So now what? Just complain? Ugh.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 5:30pm by Llester
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#25 Aug 24 2013 at 3:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I love this game so much, easily my favourite MMO ever made.... when it works....

I know this is temporary and before launch date too, and square will fix it.....

But for the last 3 hours I haven't been able to use the duty finder at all, no dungeons, behests, not even instances in quests......

Not only that but for the last 3 hours I haven't been able to teleport, zone, I am unable to attack ANYTHING - not a single random monster.....

The only thing I have been able to do for the last 3 hours..... is walk around western la noscea and enjoy the scenery......

Sigh.....

When is this game getting fixed?




Totally agree, unfortunately this is quite common with mmorpg's when they first start. Give it some time and you'll be able to enjoy the game in its entirety.

I agree with the whole "when it works" part, and share the sentiment.

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You can try to look at it from a more positive angle. Think of it like this, there is a huge demand for the product and everyone is excited to jump in, which is overloading the servers because this wasn't expected, or exceeded everyone's expectations exponentially.

As with a very large percentage of online games, launch day is filled with bugs and issues.
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#27 Aug 24 2013 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
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And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.

Only the delusional claim this is still beta.


Again. 24th != 27th. This isn't launch. This is early access. It's a privilege to be able to play early, before launch. If you don't like it, log off and come back on the 27th. Don't complain about about a privilege that didn't have to be shared with anyone.
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#28 Aug 24 2013 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Catwho wrote:
And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.

Only the delusional claim this is still beta.


Again. 24th != 27th. This isn't launch. This is early access. It's a privilege to be able to play early, before launch. If you don't like it, log off and come back on the 27th. Don't complain about about a privilege that didn't have to be shared with anyone.


Well, I mean. I don't know if it's a privilege. People paid for it. It was a pre-order incentive.
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Catwho wrote:
And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.

Only the delusional claim this is still beta.


Again. 24th != 27th. This isn't launch. This is early access. It's a privilege to be able to play early, before launch. If you don't like it, log off and come back on the 27th. Don't complain about about a privilege that didn't have to be shared with anyone.

Privelege? Privelege? Oh please SE let me my poor pitiful self play? You are an idiot, I PAID to play.
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#30 Aug 24 2013 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
I'm not disagreeing with you pointedly. You're right, it was an incentive, absolutely. It didn't have to be, though. They could have just said, "No", and you'd be stuck waiting until the 27th.
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#31 Aug 24 2013 at 3:33 PM Rating: Default
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with you pointedly. You're right, it was an incentive, absolutely. It didn't have to be, though. They could have just said, "No", and you'd be stuck waiting until the 27th.

It would change nought, they borked the launch.
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#32 Aug 24 2013 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Catwho wrote:
And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.

Only the delusional claim this is still beta.


Again. 24th != 27th. This isn't launch. This is early access. It's a privilege to be able to play early, before launch. If you don't like it, log off and come back on the 27th. Don't complain about about a privilege that didn't have to be shared with anyone.

Privelege? Privelege? Oh please SE let me my poor pitiful self play? You are an idiot, I PAID to play.


Again, name 1 single MMO that had a completely 100% successful launch. Name 1.

OH wait, you can't. Because there hasn't been one that didn't have some bug or another.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 5:34pm by darexius2010
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Rift.
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Oh

mah

fudging

god....


IT JUST OPENED TODAY!

Do you think programmers are @#%^ing wizards? That they just move a mouse around, punch four keys and blam-o - FIXED?!?

Here's an idea: GOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE


Lol! This post cracked me up.
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Ehllfire wrote:
Catwho wrote:
And it hasn't launched yet, officially. Your point?

Actually it has. Street date is the 27th. Everyone who preordered started now. So yes the game is launched. Its amazing how white knights avoid that


24th != 27th. No, it hasn't launched yet.

Try again a few days from now. Also find me a game that had a 100% flawless launch.


And don't ever go after her again. I don't appreciate those lashing out at others without concrete foundations for their statements.

Only the delusional claim this is still beta.


Again. 24th != 27th. This isn't launch. This is early access. It's a privilege to be able to play early, before launch. If you don't like it, log off and come back on the 27th. Don't complain about about a privilege that didn't have to be shared with anyone.


Well, I mean. I don't know if it's a privilege. People paid for it. It was a pre-order incentive.


I don't know if i'd consider the difficulties today a privilege, per se! Still, they're working on a valid solution, and considering the nature of the issue(s), i'm not sure it's something that could have been tested without this many people trying to play. A longer P4 might have helped mitigate this situation, but nothing that can be done about it now.
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#36 Aug 24 2013 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
Nope. Rift also had NPC quest issues that prevented you from proceding with certain quests. While it had the most successful and clear launch, it was by no means bug-free.

And guess what. People complained just as hard as you are about simple little things like that.


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#37 Aug 24 2013 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Rift.

http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1141

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Just think of Early Access is your in the game looking around learning stuff before the rush of the main event. "Basically a real Beta tester" Smiley: lol
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Rifts issues didn't keep people from playing. They had MINOR bugs. This launch is BORKED
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#41 Aug 24 2013 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
Again, since you don't seem to read. This is the 24th. This is Early Access. This is NOT launch. Launch is on the 27th. This is not beta. This is not some testing period. This is 'early access'.

And yes, they kept folks from completing quest lines. Were you there whining as hard as you are here?

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Rifts issues didn't keep people from playing. They had MINOR bugs. This launch is BORKED


I'm just going to guess that you didn't read any of the posts on the links provided. If you had, you have found that on March 1st of 2011, the date Rift launched in NA, people couldn't connect to the game servers, forums, or any Trion websites because they were down.

Here's a post you would have encounterd otherwise

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I'm getting the same problem - it's been going down on and off since like 4 AM central time (logged in for the first time at 1:30AM). It comes up periodically but seems to not last long before it takes another dump.

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#44 Aug 24 2013 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Rifts issues didn't keep people from playing. They had MINOR bugs. This launch is BORKED


I'm just going to guess that you didn't read any of the posts on the links provided. If you had, you have found that on March 1st of 2011, the date Rift launched in NA, people couldn't connect to the game servers, forums, or any Trion websites because they were down.

Here's a post you would have encounterd otherwise

Qumdyin wrote:
I'm getting the same problem - it's been going down on and off since like 4 AM central time (logged in for the first time at 1:30AM). It comes up periodically but seems to not last long before it takes another dump.



I'm glad that things are breaking right now. The load is high in Early Access. Things that you can't stress test in Beta you can in situations like this. This'll help smooth out launch (which occurs on the 27th Ehllfire).

I'm very grateful they're putting in as much time on this as they are. That's a vast improvement over the past.
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A longer P4 might have helped mitigate this situation[...]


I'd tend to disagree. The issues they're having now are, as best I can tell from what's been communicated through squenix's official channels, issues of scalability not of actual bugs. It's difficult to scale a system for a code base that has never been scaled before to the levels you expect to see (based on preorder stats from retailers and such) and even harder to tell how various limitations at every layer - from the network and systems hardware to the operating systems running the servers to the server code base itself - may impact things. So you run betas and try to get some idea, and you run early access and try to get some idea, and you pay attention during the formal launch and try to get some idea, but at the end of the day you're never going to be omniscient enough to foresee every possible issue at every level.

At the end of the day, you aren't going to really get more data to help you make the necessary changes to provide a stable environment without simply moving forward and observing first-hand the impact that real world conditions have on your systems.
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#46 Aug 24 2013 at 4:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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So? do what i did, use that time to level crafting and gathering =D
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Im not going to be an apologist for SE like some. THEY said theyr were ready for launch. THEY said that these issues were fixed.
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Rifts issues didn't keep people from playing. They had MINOR bugs. This launch is BORKED


I'm just going to guess that you didn't read any of the posts on the links provided. If you had, you have found that on March 1st of 2011, the date Rift launched in NA, people couldn't connect to the game servers, forums, or any Trion websites because they were down.

Here's a post you would have encounterd otherwise

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I'm getting the same problem - it's been going down on and off since like 4 AM central time (logged in for the first time at 1:30AM). It comes up periodically but seems to not last long before it takes another dump.



I'm glad that things are breaking right now. The load is high in Early Access. Things that you can't stress test in Beta you can in situations like this. This'll help smooth out launch (which occurs on the 27th Ehllfire).

I'm very grateful they're putting in as much time on this as they are. That's a vast improvement over the past.


I totally agree with you and it's a Saturday so most people are home from work. Furthermore, when you compound that with the fact that so many people have been waiting for today, it was inevitable. Oh well. We're having a really nice day here in Michigan so no reason to be bummed.
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#49 Aug 24 2013 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Im not going to be an apologist for SE like some. THEY said theyr were ready for launch. THEY said that these issues were fixed.

No, you're going to act like a spoiled little brat and throw a temper tantrum that your new toy isn't working even though you, likely, have a room full of other toys to occupy your time while your new toy gets fixed.

PS - Having realistic expectations is not being called an apologist. That'd be people that swear All The Bravest is the greatest game ever, and totally not overpriced to **** with microtransactions.

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I work in IT. They pay me a lot of money to analyze crap and try to understand why **** is borked. (Not video games, but real estate systems. Different audience, same problems.)

So I'll admit I am inclined to give SE the benefit of the doubt over this whole thing. What makes me happy is that we're actually getting communication this time (which we didn't a week ago) and I've gotten about five solid hours of play time on the character I wanted to make a week ago. The game itself is... just wonderful. Each quest leads you further and further, and you can stretch your wings and explore at your own pace or at the game's pace.
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I work in IT. They pay me a lot of money to analyze crap and try to understand why sh*t is borked. (Not video games, but real estate systems. Different audience, same problems.)

So I'll admit I am inclined to give SE the benefit of the doubt over this whole thing. What makes me happy is that we're actually getting communication this time (which we didn't a week ago) and I've gotten about five solid hours of play time on the character I wanted to make a week ago. The game itself is... just wonderful. Each quest leads you further and further, and you can stretch your wings and explore at your own pace or at the game's pace.


I give them the benefit of the doubt too, though my reason is that I work in QA and if anyone thinks for a second that the employees don't go into panic mode when a bug is found in their live game, they are nuts. It is in their best interests to fix game-breaking bugs, which is why i never fret if i don't hear a lightning quick response from devs when these things occur.

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