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#1 Aug 24 2013 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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I applaud SE

I for one am happy that SE is going to the extents they are today. While I may not be able to enjoy the game as much as I’d like or hope to. I am amazed at the turn they have taken to resolving issues as quickly as possible. Even if it takes them a few tries to get things right, the fact I can go to their twitter and receive an update in a somewhat timely fashion. This gives me hope that SE has learned from the mistakes they made in 2010 with 1.0 and even more recently with the P4 issues.
While some people are happy spewing vitriol on SE attempts at releasing a game, all I have to say is buck up. No MMO has released perfectly or smoothly regardless of how many years they have worked on it or how many games they have released.

This for people should be no surprise right now, either hold your tongue or don’t post. The negativity isn’t getting you or anyone else anywhere. If things don’t shape up after a few weeks then SE has an issue.

For those who vested into the EA with the right intentions we should be able to cope with what is taking place. We vested into this endeavour to help SE get things right. The ones crying the loudest are those who treat every MMO like it is a race to claim the first prize. To them I say good riddance hardly are they the types to stick around for the long haul and really contribute anything to the community of the game.

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#2 Aug 24 2013 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
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Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy
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Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy


I played 1.0 and no it was terrible then, SE has done some fantastic things with 2.0 and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
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#4 Aug 24 2013 at 4:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.
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meh 2 hours go get some sleep people i'm sure most of you have been up since before 4am waiting over caffinated lying in a pile of monster and mtn dew cans and bags of assorted junkfood. At least they're trying to fix the problems, instead of saying tough **** deal with it. No mmo is perfect on launch or early access which is essentially launch just on a smaller scale cause not everyone preordered. I've dealt with My share of mmo's and I can say this is mild tame at best, i've seen better and i've seen worse so just hang in there its just a game hah.
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It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.

You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.
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people just love to whine, **** I see it as a chance to stretch get some food take a nap refresh refuel and get ready to game when it pops back up.
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Honestly i see no reason for applause or complaint. It's just..a thing that is happening now and will be not happening in the near future.
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Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.
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#12 Aug 24 2013 at 4:31 PM Rating: Default
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I haven't thrown any anger or hatred at them. But I'm not gonna applaud them either.
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Teracide wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.

That is what they are supposed to do. That is what they get paid to do.
#14 Aug 24 2013 at 4:34 PM Rating: Good
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You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of **** instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?
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Teracide wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.


Thank you for seeing my post for what it is.
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy


Let's see if i can find the right words to say....


Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.



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#18 Aug 24 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.


It has everything to do with my OP, you are the one you went off on your own tangent.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:41pm by Bludot
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#19 Aug 24 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


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#20 Aug 24 2013 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
This thread is starting to have too many structured, rational arguments...slowdown eggheads.
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


You, sir, are a god among men.


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#23 Aug 24 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a **** long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.

It hurts to explain this. It really does. But, I feel this is a "teachable moment"

Hey, remember when I said that I don't make broad, sweeping statements that make me look retarded?

"You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny"

Now, let me explain to you the concept of postulates. A postulate is defined as a fundamental principle, a necessary condition. Gravity's effect, as we understand it, would therefore be a postulate when talking about bodies in motion. Now, your postulate in the above statement is that all games from all companies are basically the same.

Now, there is truth in that statement. All companies have people who are staffed in them. All games have sets of rules in them. But after that, your concept falls apart. Compare this launch to Rift from Trion, and you will see Rift is not the same game, and Trion didn't have the same issues. Then compare that the LOTR:O and Turbine. And on, and on and on.

Then your next postulate is that these threads are always created. This is nigh impossible to prove or disprove without extensive searches online to locate every single game ever made, every single company that ever made games, then find every single launch date set of posts on the forums they have, then comb their forums for a user praising the company's actions.

So, by making that above statement, you are offering two very overly broad assumptions that, upon closer inspection, are not nearly as true or as universal as you would believe.

Is that a bit clearer?
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where is this info everyone keeps talking about, i have nothing except a bunch of downed worlds, where does everyone get the info?
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I like the open communication. They've even started a second Twitter account specifically for updates.
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The only thing more annoying than this thread is the fact that everyone keeps quoting the other three paragraph posts.

Chill out everyone. At least the Annunaki haven't returned yet.

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I'm liking everything they've done so far today. They are sending Server wide ingame messages alerting that they are aware and that they are working on the resolution. Then when they get the resolution they let us know and take it down for a couple hours... giving all the gamers time to properly refresh themselves. Then they let us back in and say "Happy Travels" and leave us to our adventures. The forced breaks are good for all the gamers... it's not like you are losing out on progress while you nap and others continue to play. Eat, Sleep, take a walk and stretch. Return and continue where you left off no worries.
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They are sending Server wide ingame messages alerting that they are aware and that they are working on the resolution. Then when they get the resolution they let us know and take it down for a couple hours... giving all the gamers time to properly refresh themselves. .


Best post of the thread... well done Death.

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So, two 3-hour maintenances... BOTH failed to address the problem they were meant to address.

*clap clap clap* We applaud you, SE!
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I applaud SE

I for one am happy that SE is going to the extents they are today. While I may not be able to enjoy the game as much as I’d like or hope to. I am amazed at the turn they have taken to resolving issues as quickly as possible. Even if it takes them a few tries to get things right, the fact I can go to their twitter and receive an update in a somewhat timely fashion. This gives me hope that SE has learned from the mistakes they made in 2010 with 1.0 and even more recently with the P4 issues.
While some people are happy spewing vitriol on SE attempts at releasing a game, all I have to say is buck up. No MMO has released perfectly or smoothly regardless of how many years they have worked on it or how many games they have released.

This for people should be no surprise right now, either hold your tongue or don’t post. The negativity isn’t getting you or anyone else anywhere. If things don’t shape up after a few weeks then SE has an issue.

For those who vested into the EA with the right intentions we should be able to cope with what is taking place. We vested into this endeavour to help SE get things right. The ones crying the loudest are those who treat every MMO like it is a race to claim the first prize. To them I say good riddance hardly are they the types to stick around for the long haul and really contribute anything to the community of the game.

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Applaud them for what? Not fixing anything?
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This thread is starting to have too many structured, rational arguments...slowdown eggheads.


Lol! And kudos to the OP and a few resummarizations of the point. They're working on it, in all aspects.
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#33 Aug 24 2013 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm not going to hate on SE for any of this, but there is certainly a difference between the launch of this game and the launch of Guild Wars 2, which is a game that I find to be a polished-yet-hollow shell of an MMO.

Some of my ARR beta experiences were more smooth than actual game launches, but today's launch feels more rough around the edges than most betas.

Go figure!

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Lol @ applause for SE for their launch.
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The following is the current situation regarding the issue wherein players are unable to access instances for Worlds under the North American/European Data Centers.

In regards to the emergency maintenance that was implemented earlier, we have resolved the issue for the confirmed character data for certain players that were having that problem.

For the issue with the server in charge of connecting players to the instances, we are still experiencing heavy traffic and are working on a solution to improve the server.

We are currently concentrating all of our efforts to address this issue, so we appreciate your continued patience while we work to address this matter.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


This just from SE.

And for all the people mocking the OP go back and read it. You have all clearly missed the points I posted. Please prove to me this world is doomed because you demonstrate you lack 1/4 of your brain.
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#36Ehllfire, Posted: Aug 24 2013 at 10:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the fact the dumbasses at SE didn't install enough servers?
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The following is the current situation regarding the issue wherein players are unable to access instances for Worlds under the North American/European Data Centers.

In regards to the emergency maintenance that was implemented earlier, we have resolved the issue for the confirmed character data for certain players that were having that problem.

For the issue with the server in charge of connecting players to the instances, we are still experiencing heavy traffic and are working on a solution to improve the server.

We are currently concentrating all of our efforts to address this issue, so we appreciate your continued patience while we work to address this matter.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


This just from SE.

And for all the people mocking the OP go back and read it. You have all clearly missed the points I posted. Please prove to me this world is doomed because you demonstrate you lack 1/4 of your brain.

What the fact the dumbasses at SE didn't install enough servers?


THE OP. Not the news update.
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We ALL knew what kind of company Square was when we got into this game. It's not like it's any shock that everything they do is needlessly convoluted and counter intuitive. 2.0 is a vast improvement over 1.0 and the "F U, find it your own **** self" attitude of FFXI. at least they are no longer acting like we greatly offended them by having the gall to play their game, and ask to be kept in the loop, or to be given guidance. Yoshi P is a godsend for Square, but he is only one man. If you want real change, open a Paypal account, collect funds, and buy Yoshi a whip.

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