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#1 Aug 24 2013 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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I applaud SE

I for one am happy that SE is going to the extents they are today. While I may not be able to enjoy the game as much as I’d like or hope to. I am amazed at the turn they have taken to resolving issues as quickly as possible. Even if it takes them a few tries to get things right, the fact I can go to their twitter and receive an update in a somewhat timely fashion. This gives me hope that SE has learned from the mistakes they made in 2010 with 1.0 and even more recently with the P4 issues.
While some people are happy spewing vitriol on SE attempts at releasing a game, all I have to say is buck up. No MMO has released perfectly or smoothly regardless of how many years they have worked on it or how many games they have released.

This for people should be no surprise right now, either hold your tongue or don’t post. The negativity isn’t getting you or anyone else anywhere. If things don’t shape up after a few weeks then SE has an issue.

For those who vested into the EA with the right intentions we should be able to cope with what is taking place. We vested into this endeavour to help SE get things right. The ones crying the loudest are those who treat every MMO like it is a race to claim the first prize. To them I say good riddance hardly are they the types to stick around for the long haul and really contribute anything to the community of the game.

Solider on SE, solider on!
#2 Aug 24 2013 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy
#3 Aug 24 2013 at 4:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy


I played 1.0 and no it was terrible then, SE has done some fantastic things with 2.0 and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
#4 Aug 24 2013 at 4:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.
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#5 Aug 24 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Yoshi, you're doing a heck of a job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lssbAwu-OtE
#6 Aug 24 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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meh 2 hours go get some sleep people i'm sure most of you have been up since before 4am waiting over caffinated lying in a pile of monster and mtn dew cans and bags of assorted junkfood. At least they're trying to fix the problems, instead of saying tough **** deal with it. No mmo is perfect on launch or early access which is essentially launch just on a smaller scale cause not everyone preordered. I've dealt with My share of mmo's and I can say this is mild tame at best, i've seen better and i've seen worse so just hang in there its just a game hah.
#7 Aug 24 2013 at 4:22 PM Rating: Default
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.
#8 Aug 24 2013 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.

You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.
#9 Aug 24 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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people just love to whine, hell I see it as a chance to stretch get some food take a nap refresh refuel and get ready to game when it pops back up.
#10 Aug 24 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly i see no reason for applause or complaint. It's just..a thing that is happening now and will be not happening in the near future.
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#11 Aug 24 2013 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.
#12 Aug 24 2013 at 4:31 PM Rating: Default
I haven't thrown any anger or hatred at them. But I'm not gonna applaud them either.
#13 Aug 24 2013 at 4:32 PM Rating: Default
Teracide wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.

That is what they are supposed to do. That is what they get paid to do.
#14 Aug 24 2013 at 4:34 PM Rating: Good
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Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of **** instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?
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#15 Aug 24 2013 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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Teracide wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
It's one thing to not be upset, but we're applauding them?

They didn't even fix anything yet.


They're working on it. They're also keeping us informed.

He's not applauding them for their great work on the game's stability. He's applauding them for their continued communication and tireless effort at getting everything working for us.

SE really is doing everything they can to get us up and running again. You can choose to throw anger and hatred at them for it not working 100% perfect, but that's not solving anything. We're all waiting now. How you choose to handle the wait is really up to you.


Thank you for seeing my post for what it is.
#16 Aug 24 2013 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.
#17 Aug 24 2013 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:16pm by Mopdaddy


Let's see if i can find the right words to say....


Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
Oh god here we go. "Hip hip hooray they are doing what they are supposed to be... Fixing bugs"

I bet 1.0 would still have people like this if it was alive somehow.


Yes, because it's much better if we all **** and moan about our virtual useless little world not being open right now because the game wasn't pulled from the dev's **** completely formed and totally perfect. I'd rather see a positive post recognizing that SE has made strides in more areas than game development, as communication at FFXI launch was more or less cryptic.



^ Found em
#18 Aug 24 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.


It has everything to do with my OP, you are the one you went off on your own tangent.

Edited, Aug 24th 2013 6:41pm by Bludot
#19 Aug 24 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


You, sir, are a god among men.
#20 Aug 24 2013 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
This thread is starting to have too many structured, rational arguments...slowdown eggheads.
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


You, sir, are a god among men.


He really is on a roll today, isn't he?
#23 Aug 24 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Mopdaddy wrote:
Pawkeshup, Averter of the Apocalypse wrote:
Mopdaddy wrote:
You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny.

Well, see, here's the thing. I don't judge based on "every company no matter how bad", I do this thing where, when I pass a judgement, I do so based on those things I directly experience with that specific situation, rather than just grouping everything in an extremely general category and deciding it's all the same.

IE, I don't make rash, broad statements that make me look retarded.

Square-Enix launched FFXI, and it was... not perfect. They were always tight-lipped about the game, always. It took years for that to get better. Then with FFXIV 1.0, they blithely ignored every bit of feedback and launched a boatload of sh*t instead of the next flagship. Now, they've gone back and done absolutely everything they could to change all of that. They have come a damn long way. So, for that, I salute them.

... or would you rather they be like EA?


Thanks for that even though it has nothing to do with what I said.

It hurts to explain this. It really does. But, I feel this is a "teachable moment"

Hey, remember when I said that I don't make broad, sweeping statements that make me look retarded?

"You don't find it funny every game that has come out for every company no matter how bad, has these threads come out immediately when their is down time? I find it funny"

Now, let me explain to you the concept of postulates. A postulate is defined as a fundamental principle, a necessary condition. Gravity's effect, as we understand it, would therefore be a postulate when talking about bodies in motion. Now, your postulate in the above statement is that all games from all companies are basically the same.

Now, there is truth in that statement. All companies have people who are staffed in them. All games have sets of rules in them. But after that, your concept falls apart. Compare this launch to Rift from Trion, and you will see Rift is not the same game, and Trion didn't have the same issues. Then compare that the LOTR:O and Turbine. And on, and on and on.

Then your next postulate is that these threads are always created. This is nigh impossible to prove or disprove without extensive searches online to locate every single game ever made, every single company that ever made games, then find every single launch date set of posts on the forums they have, then comb their forums for a user praising the company's actions.

So, by making that above statement, you are offering two very overly broad assumptions that, upon closer inspection, are not nearly as true or as universal as you would believe.

Is that a bit clearer?
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#24 Aug 24 2013 at 5:00 PM Rating: Default
where is this info everyone keeps talking about, i have nothing except a bunch of downed worlds, where does everyone get the info?
#25 Aug 24 2013 at 5:00 PM Rating: Excellent
I like the open communication. They've even started a second Twitter account specifically for updates.
#26 Aug 24 2013 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
OHHHH IC......@FF_XIV_EN and @FFXIV_NEWS_EN
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