This is Early AccessFollow

Things are broken though... Which is all that matters. Don't know why you are getting mad at what doesn't matter.

Edited, Aug 25th 2013 12:33pm by Mopdaddy

And again, nothing is ever perfect at launch. Not one person can name an MMO with a perfect launch. Why is this one so different?

It isn't.

Exactly it isn't... So people have the right to complain. Just like in every other game that comes out. You pay for a product you are allowed to complain.

I don't get how games are immune to complaints. Immune to wanting it done right.
One thing I never understood these same people would complain if their sandwich was made wrong 5 times in a row yet a game can pound you in the *** and people love it.
Edited, Aug 25th 2013 12:40pm by Mopdaddy

Edited, Aug 25th 2013 12:41pm by Mopdaddy

If I tell you a cow is a bird will it be able to fly?

What percentage of players do you suppose signed up for early launch as opposed to waiting for "release"? This whole thing is a common marketing tool geared around our human nature of wanting to feel special. There is another thread that explains that quite eloquently. The key point to understand is that it is a retail release. It is not beta and therefore we paid for what was to be a ready for release product. Its not, pure and simple. I will go back and check on my purchase but I am relatively certain it didn't have a disclaimer stating early access was in fact similar to an early beta phase.

If that fact doesn't bother you fantastic.

SE isn't doing your kind any favors now getting World is full... I know it's full but my character is already ******* on it.

And some people are just trolls -- Too bad there's no direct way to stamp them out.

Seeing as how the game just crashed again; I guess we're all trolls (good or bad) stuck in the same room with a pile of **** (FF servers) sitting in the corner.

yea it says unable to update NE/EU character data :(

I really think SE has horrid or just ignorant technicians. In business, you always plan for having more than you need. It's also a popular mantra in the military. It's better to have and not need, than to need and not have. If they would've spent additional increments of money for more server capacity, they would've saved a lot more compared with all of the emergency maintenance they've had to do with their prior pis-poor preparation.

This.

Depending on whose in the room that could be a good time in the making.

Not that I condone the level of ire directed at Square Enix. I comprehend what occurs when launching an MMO. But I do disagree with this "It's just early access" nonsense.

Pre-orders are a mutually beneficial agreement. The consumer agrees to plunk down their hard-earned cash and the developer agrees to deliver on some extra goodies.

The consumer gets said extra goodies and the developer gets to boast in news articles and advertisements that "X amount of people already have bought the game."

Imagine if the pre-order bonus was a physical item. Say, a statue of Gaius. But when it came around, the sending out of said statues was a floundering disaster. They made fewer statues than they needed. Many were sent to the wrong address. Many more were broken.

Would you still tell these people to be grateful? That their statue was nothing more than a bonus and they didn't even "pay" for it?

In reality, early access is a soft launch. The most troubling thing about these errors is that we're now looking at the fourth time since Phase 4 that they said they were fixed and everything was good to go.

People have been experiencing 90000/3012 and the like since at least Phase 3 and each subsequent "fix" only serves to exacerbate it. If it's this crippling during a soft launch when SE knew exactly how many players were going to be potentially accessing the game, what's going to happen over the next week or so when the servers are hit with people who might pick it up on a whim?

Again, I know MMO launches will have errors and bugs that crop up when a mass of players log on, but at what point in technology's history does that yield as an excuse? Especially for a company that has a decade of experience in maintaining servers for an MMO?

Every game launched these days has a multiplayer component. Are we as consumers not allowed to expect that at some point there will be enough experienced people in the industry to at least not have an MMO limp its way into a launch date?

Few games these days have these sort of basic issues. Bugs are one thing. The inability to log in is quickly becoming inexcusable.

The problem that substantiating the errors from this weekend with claims this is merely "Early Access" is completely hogwash. It's like being a season pass holder for Six Flags and getting to come in before the park opens but not being able to get on any rides. If I wanted to test the system I'd have just been engaged in the Beta. Less anyone forgets 1.0 beta ended with screams from the testers saying the game wasn't ready but it launched to stay on schedule (we know the rest of the story). Phase 4 of the Alpha was a miserable 48 hours with server/log in errors and I think we were foolishly hopeful that these errors would not persist into Early Access.


In relaunching the MMO SE has been granted their second chance to make a first impression. It *should* have been a flawless execution. Early Access folks are the most die hard of SE fans and were likely testers since alpha and we also had the furthest to fall when our expectations aren't met. This is not a launch of an MMO. That was 2010.


Edited, Aug 25th 2013 1:58pm by deronguerra