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#102 Aug 28 2013 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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So last night (8/27) i was finally able to get into the game at 11 pm and several others in my FC were actually able to get in as well. It turns out we were able to get into the game finally because people were actually logging out because of a maintenance window that was announced and there was not point in staying on AFK as they would get booted anyway.

This just goes to show that yes staying in the game AFK does prevent other people from playing.

As far as spamming the logon on button it is a bit different for PS3 users (or at least me). After hitting start it takes approximately 5-7 seconds for my character to load. So in total it takes about 10 seconds from the point of getting Server Full message to actually try and logon again.
#103 Aug 28 2013 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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Would be nice to see them add a little bit of play time for everyone following their additions to the data center. I've only tried on 5 or 6 different occasions, but I have yet to be able to log in and I've been trying since Monday. I haven't spent any longer than about 5 minutes each time I've tried. It's either 1017 or unable to update world list.

Really trying to give SE a chance here with this, but if I can't get in to try it then I can't really see myself subscribing. I guess on the bright side it's one less person taking up space who's actually trying to play the game.
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This is the last thing I will say on this topic. Doing the right thing does not make you a martyr because your life is not forfeit for your actions. It makes you a decent person, nothing more, nothing less. It means doing what is right simply because it is right, and for no other reason. Not because people will praise you for it. Not because you stand to gain from it. What makes a person good or bad is the decision to do what is right when you KNOW no one is watching and the only thing you stand to gain is integrity. You ARE bad people plain, pure and simple. That you would behave so base over something as trivial as a video game reveals the total depth of your character... and it is a shallow pool you wade in.


I do a lot of good in real life, and FFXIV is my only vice. I'm sure you have much worse vices you don't tell anyone about. I paid and continue to pay my dues. Karma bit me yesterday and I wanted to punch the guy at my ISP who toggled the on/off switch on my cable internet. Took me 2 hours to log back in. Then I logged out last night for server maintenance, and tried to log back in a few times before work to find out that I can't update the NA/EU server list. I would have significantly less fervor if an afk boot was implemented. I am hoping for that. If not, people will take advantage of the situation. Do you consider that Obama was bad becuase he was forced to use superpacs to win the election? He did not want to, vehemantly opposed the Supreme Court's ruling that they be implemented. But in the end he was forced to use them. If he didn't he would not have won the election, because Mitt Romney was using Superpacs religiously.

I only have a limited time to play because I have a family... If I spend that time trying to log in, its like a little of me dies inside. But my statement was that we are not martyrs, as in we are not trying to die for this cause.

So there.

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#105 Aug 28 2013 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Valkayree wrote:

I only have a limited time to play because I have a family... If I spend that time trying to log in, its like a little of me dies inside.


And how is this different for anyone else? If you want to exploit the lack of auto-logout, fine, but don't pretend like you aren't hurting other gamers who are just like you. SE is to blame for this, not your fellow gamers.
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I do a lot of good in real life, and FFXIV is my only vice. I'm sure you have much worse vices you don't tell anyone about. I paid and continue to pay my dues. Karma bit me yesterday and I wanted to punch the guy at my ISP who toggled the on/off switch on my cable internet. Took me 2 hours to log back in. Then I logged out last night for server maintenance, and tried to log back in a few times before work to find out that I can't update the NA/EU server list. I would have significantly less fervor if an afk boot was implemented. I am hoping for that. If not, people will take advantage of the situation. Do you consider that Obama was bad becuase he was forced to use superpacs to win the election? He did not want to, vehemantly opposed the Supreme Court's ruling that they be implemented. But in the end he was forced to use them. If he didn't he would not have won the election, because Mitt Romney was using Superpacs religiously.

I only have a limited time to play because I have a family... If I spend that time trying to log in, its like a little of me dies inside. But my statement was that we are not martyrs, as in we are not trying to die for this cause.

So there.


Right on man...

I only attempted to stay logged in because SE messed up and are basically forcing us to do this if we want any chance at all of playing.. and I am in Eastern time and only have the prime time hours available to play... so either I stay logged in, or I wait another week or two for SE to fix this... I'm already behind the rest of the LS due to RL limits to playtime and issues we had during P4 and EA... I'll be damned if I am not going to at least try to stay logged in... PSN cuts you off apparently so I did not get to stay on yesterday... but luckily got back on that time....
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#107 Aug 28 2013 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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I am curious how fractured FCs are going to become because of this. Not really KC because we are more casual about it, but the hardcore ones that have some people that get in game and are in the 30s and 40s already and those that can't log on or only get in for a few that are still trying to get into Copperbell.

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#108 Aug 28 2013 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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I'm loving the "well, I feel guilty but.." "well I know I'm a ******* but..." "well, it's SQE fault I'm doing this...", LOL, yeah, sure. Y'all are doing it because you don't care and because you can. But, if you feel better with these excuses...
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Valkayree wrote:

I only have a limited time to play because I have a family... If I spend that time trying to log in, its like a little of me dies inside.


And how is this different for anyone else? If you want to exploit the lack of auto-logout, fine, but don't pretend like you aren't hurting other gamers who are just like you. SE is to blame for this, not your fellow gamers.


Oh trust me, my fellow gamers make me pay as well when I have to login. I hate competition. Always have. But if we are swinging elbows, mine are pretty big.
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If you want to exploit the lack of auto-logout, fine, but don't pretend like you aren't hurting other gamers who are just like you. SE is to blame for this, as much as your fellow gamers who are logging in to afk.

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#111 Aug 28 2013 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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I won't do this. You can, thats fine.... Many people do... be apart of that wicked percentile of online MMO gamers.

Scumbags.


Nice guys finish last. Smiley: grin

I tried being a nice guy yesterday, and I didn't get to play at all last night because of it. Today I am logged in all day til I get home tonight.
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#112 Aug 28 2013 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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opps hit wrong button!

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#113 Aug 28 2013 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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I'm loving the "well, I feel guilty but.." "well I know I'm a ******* but..." "well, it's SQE fault I'm doing this...", LOL, yeah, sure. Y'all are doing it because you don't care and because you can. But, if you feel better with these excuses...



SE not having auto boot for AFK is a baffling omission. I can only think that they were on such a shoestring budget that they but the bullet in the chamber, spun it and took the risk pulling the trigger going live without it.

Anyone that logs off out of courtesy for other players is probably going to b replaced by another "perma AFK" player that won't.

So it's a Taking Care of #1 situation and there's no one to blame but SE.

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vahlmyth wrote:
OldKnees wrote:
I'm loving the "well, I feel guilty but.." "well I know I'm a ******* but..." "well, it's SQE fault I'm doing this...", LOL, yeah, sure. Y'all are doing it because you don't care and because you can. But, if you feel better with these excuses...



SE not having auto boot for AFK is a baffling omission. I can only think that they were on such a shoestring budget that they but the bullet in the chamber, spun it and took the risk pulling the trigger going live without it.

Anyone that logs off out of courtesy for other players is probably going to b replaced by another "perma AFK" player that won't.

So it's a Taking Care of #1 situation and there's no one to blame but SE.



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#115 Aug 28 2013 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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Again, when I get home and can't get in, I am going to go make a new character on a JP server. As slutty as I can make her... BECAUSE RAGE!!

And I refuse to stay logged in... even if it means never playing with any of you shmoes in KC ever again, or for the first time.
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Sweet baby Jesus, lol. Kind of glad i'm not on the Ultros server now. Although, i can't say it's been a cake-walk to get on to my server. The better-half has had almost no problems what so ever because she and her friends usually play from 11pm til 4 am EST. **** those night owls.

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#117 Aug 28 2013 at 8:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Skaditoo wrote:
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Selfish gamers eat their own.

I won't do this. You can, thats fine.... Many people do... be apart of that wicked percentile of online MMO gamers.

Scumbags.


Nice guys finish last. Smiley: grin

I tried being a nice guy yesterday, and I didn't get to play at all last night because of it. Today I am logged in all day til I get home tonight.


Oh trust me, when my ISP bounced at 4:30 yesterday afternoon and my actual internet connection was down for 2 minutes, I severely regretted telling everyone to stay logged AFK. Karma bit me, yep. Still two hours of mashing the button and I was back on, and I played the whole time and logged out before maintenance. Now I can't get back on.
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#118Turkey101, Posted: Aug 28 2013 at 9:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That's exactly why I do it with two accounts. Sorry (not really), but my play time is more important to me than yours. Hope "y'all" enjoy the queue if you're lucky enough to get in it.
#119 Aug 28 2013 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I log off at night around 10pm EST which is 7pm for the PSTers, so I'm giving someone a chance for my spot I'm sure.

However in the morning at 6:30am EST I log in and stay logged in until I get home at night. Who could blame me? Otherwise I won't get to play!

My view is that SE should spend time fixing the server issues which makes an AFK kicker not necessary at all. Why waste time implementing it when there are bigger issues to spend time on??
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#120 Aug 28 2013 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Meh, I log out, myself. Now I'm not knocking anyone that stays logged in. Myself, I give the spot to someone else, even knowing they'll not give it back. Honestly, I haven't had much trouble getting in. Granted I don't sit and spam the Start button, I simply go do something else for a while and try again later. After a few times, I'm in, play my time, log out, rinse and repeat. They really need to have an inactivity log out. Even 30 minutes seems too long. Anyone gone that long should probably give their computer (or PS3) a breather during that time. I'd say 15 minutes tops. With that in place, it wouldn't matter if you logged out for 20 minutes, you'd more than likely get right back on.
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I go ahead and log out when I'm going to be away for more than 15 minutes. Someone else can have my spot for a little bit and if I have to spam the login for a bit so be it.

Inactive auto-logout, even temporarily would help with this.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:41pm by Yelta
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I'm a little sad that due to not having the capacity FFXIV will be a bit less of a huge success than it would have been.

Sometimes it's best to prepare for the best possible outcome. Otherwise, that outcome is not possible at all.
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That can backfire as well. One of the worst things you can do is add twice as many servers as you need and then once the initial rush of players settles down you have a bunch of half empty servers.

I think once they get this all sorted we need a few extra free days playtime and a free server transfer coupon or something.
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That can backfire as well. One of the worst things you can do is add twice as many servers as you need and then once the initial rush of players settles down you have a bunch of half empty servers.

I think once they get this all sorted we need a few extra free days playtime and a free server transfer coupon or something.


If you build a flexible/scalable virtual environment then all this could have been avoided with minimal cost/risk.

Their approach tells me they drove this project to the bone on infrastructure that was woefully insufficient.

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Yelta wrote:
That can backfire as well. One of the worst things you can do is add twice as many servers as you need and then once the initial rush of players settles down you have a bunch of half empty servers.

I think once they get this all sorted we need a few extra free days playtime and a free server transfer coupon or something.


I completely agree. Some people understand those considerations, although not everyone does. I'm thinking that finding the balance is close to impossible. No doubt they under estimated in this case.

I'm hoping by next week they will have full and healthy servers for everyone. I just hope after the initial frustration fades, players that have given up for the moment are still willing to give the game itself another shot.

The game itself is so awesome you would have to be pretty stubborn to ignore it forever forward.

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If you build a flexible/scalable virtual environment then all this could have been avoided with minimal cost/risk.

Their approach tells me they drove this project to the bone on infrastructure that was woefully insufficient.



The millions lost on 1.0 should have told you that long before launch.
#127 Aug 28 2013 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I log out when im done and still get to play. SE should fix the issue soon tho so be patient since this is only a game. Also spend time having *** with your gf. Its a good way to kill time.
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I log out when im done and still get to play. SE should fix the issue soon tho so be patient since this is only a game. Also spend time having *** with your gf. Its a good way to kill time.


My point exactly I log out every single time I leave and I get back on after like 3 tries. *** is a great way to kill time also making **** trophies.. I mean kids..
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I log out when im done and still get to play. SE should fix the issue soon tho so be patient since this is only a game. Also spend time having *** with your gf. Its a good way to kill time.


It is only a game... but when you decide to be a bro and log out and give someone else a chance, your friends are skipping merrily along concerning themselves with higher end game stuff and you are suddenly forgotten about. Instead of doing stuff together, now they are 'just helping you out before they get back to the real game' and it gets rough trying to think you are nothing but a charity case - just pat me on the head before you go to drive the point home. At that point there is nothing stopping them from quitting or rolling on a different server, but also at that point, the point of playing in the first place has killed the drive.

This is why I am highly curious as to what happens to crazy power FCs as this issue fragments them into those that can log in and those that can't.
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I logged off again last night, came home and spammed again to get in. Only took me 4 attempts this time. I urge anybody having problems to try this. I'm on ultros, an incredibly crowded server and I haven't had to wait longer than 10 minutes since I pre ordered. Isn't there a keybind on pc for this? Numpad 0? I know you guys are having trouble and If I only tried every 10 or 15 minutes I probably wouldn't get in either. But this has worked for me every time.
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I logged off again last night, came home and spammed again to get in. Only took me 4 attempts this time. I urge anybody having problems to try this. I'm on ultros, an incredibly crowded server and I haven't had to wait longer than 10 minutes since I pre ordered. Isn't there a keybind on pc for this? Numpad 0? I know you guys are having trouble and If I only tried every 10 or 15 minutes I probably wouldn't get in either. But this has worked for me every time.


It has never taken me fewer than 2 hours to log in after coming home from work.

And yes, numpad0 will both select and press the dialog box buttons. Although you have to be careful with that, because if it puts you in the "queue" (I can't airquotes that enough), numpad0 will press the cancel button on that just the same.
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There's nothing worse than seeing level 50's already running about. You know that they've had no issue whatsoever getting to play when they wanted to. I'm still level 22 thanks to all of the server issues. I can't even play when I actually have time to. I feel like I'm being forced into playing a casual 2-3 hours a day.

I feel like I'm getting nowhere. I don't even see much reason to try and log on with the servers like this. When I DO manage to get online, I only get very little done before I DC or need to get off. I'd be in the 40's by now if the damned servers let me play.
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Hmm I wonder if I get in because I'm close to the na servers. Don't get me wrong, I still think its ******** that I have to spam like this to get in. The fact that they don't have a working cue system or afk logout is insane. I also haven't disconnected once. My Internet is pretty good too, so I dunno. Maybe I'm just lucky. Anyway, ill continue logging out when I'm not playing to give you all a chance to get into ultros
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I logged off again last night, came home and spammed again to get in. Only took me 4 attempts this time. I urge anybody having problems to try this. I'm on ultros, an incredibly crowded server and I haven't had to wait longer than 10 minutes since I pre ordered. Isn't there a keybind on pc for this? Numpad 0? I know you guys are having trouble and If I only tried every 10 or 15 minutes I probably wouldn't get in either. But this has worked for me every time.


You have been incredibly lucky. Although I did log on at lunch today to Ultros and I got in first try. That's a first (since beta 4).

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Sweet baby Jesus, lol. Kind of glad i'm not on the Ultros server now. Although, i can't say it's been a cake-walk to get on to my server. The better-half has had almost no problems what so ever because she and her friends usually play from 11pm til 4 am EST. **** those night owls.

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You dont mean that! Deep down inside you want to play with all of us!

But yeah, Square enix makes poor choices all over the place. I for one do not blame people for not logging out, let's be honest here most of the people only have a limited amount of playtime, I would do the same thing in their shoes.

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There's nothing worse than seeing level 50's already running about. You know that they've had no issue whatsoever getting to play when they wanted to. I'm still level 22 thanks to all of the server issues. I can't even play when I actually have time to. I feel like I'm being forced into playing a casual 2-3 hours a day.

I feel like I'm getting nowhere. I don't even see much reason to try and log on with the servers like this. When I DO manage to get online, I only get very little done before I DC or need to get off. I'd be in the 40's by now if the damned servers let me play.


FWIW I've been able to access the game for 0 minutes and 0 seconds. I wasn't in early access(won a code, but gave it to a friend) and I haven't been able to login since launch. Granted, I only try for a few minutes at a time before giving up, but there are other things I'd rather be doing. I get the feeling that if I spammed the login for an hour or more like most people would, it would greatly depreciate the value of the game for me. The game could be great fun, but I'd always have it in my head... "This is cool, but was it really worth wasting an hour and a half for?".

I'm hoping that SE decides to just extend the free trial period for a week or so if/after they get the servers stable. I wanted to get to cap and explore some of the options at endgame before coming to a decision, but if I can't get there before I'm asked to sub I'll probably just find something else to play.
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#137 Aug 28 2013 at 3:18 PM Rating: Default
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How long does it take for SE to build a new server? This issue has been going on for days now. I better get a free world transfer to a server named PONDEROSA.


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There's nothing worse than seeing level 50's already running about. You know that they've had no issue whatsoever getting to play when they wanted to. I'm still level 22 thanks to all of the server issues. I can't even play when I actually have time to. I feel like I'm being forced into playing a casual 2-3 hours a day.

I feel like I'm getting nowhere. I don't even see much reason to try and log on with the servers like this. When I DO manage to get online, I only get very little done before I DC or need to get off. I'd be in the 40's by now if the damned servers let me play.


When I see a level 50 on a new server I see someone who may have no job, no family, no school, and no interest in paying attention to the story line of the game. It's "get to 50 as fast as you can to win the game" - without actually paying attention to the game. These are the same types of people who wanted the ability to disable all cut scenes and quest dialog.

Ten years ago I could have gotten to level 50 in a week (barring connection issues), but these days I'm at work 9 hours a day and I've been trying to redecorate my living room all week as soon as I get home, meaning I don't have time to sit there and hit the 0 key until I get in.

I'd rather take my time, level at a slow pace, and just enjoy the game.
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#140 Aug 29 2013 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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Hate to be that guy but I haven't had any problems logging in since launch.
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Hate to be that guy but I haven't had any problems logging in since launch.


So you're that guy!?!?!

Haha, congratulations!

I wish we all had that kind of luck... maybe next week.

Anyways, I think they have been reducing the restrictions recently because while my big idea to stay logged in has so far not worked (Likely to the chagrin of my new-found haters in this thread)... (PSN kicks you after a while even if SE does not)....

I actually have been able to log in the past couple of days which is an improvement.
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I was prepared for a log in battle last night, got in on my first try, and logged my gf in to her account while she was on the train on my first try. So even though they said next week, things are definitely easing.
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I've been able to get in every night on Leviathan with a little spamming. Some times its taken about 30 minutes of spamming, but I get in. I am fine dealing with that for a couple weeks in order to have healthy servers later. It would be nice if they could implement an actual queue though.
#144 Aug 29 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Hate to be that guy but I haven't had any problems logging in since launch.

At least you weren't the "Hey just go have *** instead" guy.
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#145 Aug 29 2013 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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At 1.0 they couldn't beg players to stay logged on, now they can't get them to log off. :)
#146 Aug 29 2013 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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sandpark wrote:
At 1.0 they couldn't beg players to stay logged on, now they can't get them to log off. :)


It's a good problem to have if you look at it this way.
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#147 Aug 29 2013 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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I do the same thing :P I don't get it, why don't they have a Queue System in place? Well I know they have cause I've been in one...once as #14 :P but why not expand it. I don't care if I get to be the 5314 in line, at least I know that I will get in at some point. Having to spam Log In all the time is just plain stupid. Had to spam it 50 times, every time it said: Full World, but magically enough on the next try which was like a second later, then I was able to get in. How odd is that??
#148 Aug 29 2013 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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I haven't been able to get on at any time other that 230-300 in the morning. I can spam login for 30 minutes, let it sit on character select, or any combo of the two. Never got on in the afternoon since the 1017 restriction started. I try to log in from about 1545 to 2100 PST and nothing. So I just get up 90 minutes early before work, play a little, and that's it. I'm going to try getting on really early Saturday morning and probably won't log off til I have to go back to work Wednesday.

If I can't get on this weekend I probably won't log in for a few weeks, if at all. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about this, but I don't feel like spending $80 on my CE was worth it at this point.
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#149 Aug 29 2013 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I think its despicable that a large portion of the player base is happy ******** over everyone else. Do these afkers not care they are hurting the game? Do they not think that people will just not start giving up on trying to play this game because they can not get on at all due to some selfish self-entitled waste of humanity? And its worse still that these afkers are rationalizing being absolute douches. FF used to have a great community. Now it looks more like WoW's community.
#150 Aug 29 2013 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am happy that you are such a deeply giving, caring, and moral person that you are willing to take the very real risk of spending most of your night trying to log on. I, on the other hand, am a self-entitled waste of humanity and will continue to log in in the morning so that when I get home from my 9-5 job I will be able to play the game I have paid for and hopin that giving to charity in real life will make up for what is by your account a villainous act on par with lighting kittens on fire and then using them to light puppies on fire.
#151 Aug 29 2013 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sigue wrote:
I am happy that you are such a deeply giving, caring, and moral person that you are willing to take the very real risk of spending most of your night trying to log on. I, on the other hand, am a self-entitled waste of humanity and will continue to log in in the morning so that when I get home from my 9-5 job I will be able to play the game I have paid for and hopin that giving to charity in real life will make up for what is by your account a villainous act on par with lighting kittens on fire and then using them to light puppies on fire.


I'm neither condoning nor supporting AFK behavior.

I would simply point out that short of Black Friday or a Pink Floyd/Led Zeppelin reunion concert, it's generally considered tacky to hold your place in line for 8-18 hours. And like any such event, holding your place in line means nobody else gets that sweet deal. It's just adding lemon juice to paper cuts.
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